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Khan Rodak
Amarr
Manu Dei
Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2008.10.01 14:02:00 -
[151]
 Originally by: Avel Kereka
A manu dei e tet rimon.
There are some things very dear to all Amarrian: faith, honor, traditionsà
Principles are the base for all of those and should not be left behind. Principles are our very own essence and a great measure to the value of character
You did well in bringing up that news flash. It shows one of many ôwhyÆs we got hereö.
It shows how principles have been bended over time, even by those who had a ôhardlinerö and extremist reputation. Well, most of those. Fortunately, there is a few of ôusö that still hold principles in their lives, no matter how difficult that can prove.
Sarum had always been a house champion of those traditionalists and pro-reclaiming wings. TheyÆve always advocate for a more active response on foreign affairs. That makes them favorites of many in empire, in the Kingdom, TetrimonÆs and even Manudeists including myself.
Despite some reserves while the explanations necessary had been given, the return of someone who many of us believed could get us back on the right track could be praised. By the time that statement was made it could be subscribed by many, even myself with a few reservations.
Unfortunately, what followed was much too serious to oversight. All the basis of what had been our tradition after the moral reforms were trashed. All traditionalist voices were silent, even those IÆd expect to hear from someone as Yonis Ardishapur himself.
Every major agent and authority went along with what was made, and the masses prepare to join that mob too. All in the name of a war and all in the name of a champion as Jamyl Sarum.
DonÆt get me wrong, Sarum was one of my champions and favorites. IÆve always believed it would take a strong leadership and role model like her, with strong views and true amarrian blood and heritage on its veins, to turn the empire back on GodÆs way.
Yet, all but maybe blood was drained from that role model that is no more. Strong views turned much too short and heritage was simply left to the pigeons.
Horm and the current TetrimonÆs are just one more sign of the times we face and what we are no longer. They will oversight the principles in the name of a ôgreater goodö as its usually called.
I say, greater goods and greater causes are only given to those deserving and not to those who follow the tides.
Hail Amarr!
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Vlad Cetes
Caldari
Heretic Army
Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.10.01 21:23:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Avel Kereka
Originally by: Vlad Cetes
That's the point you fail to see. Your religion that forces you to believe everything must be legitimate blinds you. A dictatorship does not need legitimacy for anyone who questions it can be disposed of.
Have you ever been a dictator, Mr. Cetes? Do you know what it is like to have your people overwhelm your guards, or have a knife slipped into your back? Perhaps you're Caldari, so you'd commit suicide before suffering that dishonour; but never forget that all power rests on some sort of foundation and short of being a deity you will make a mistake if you get too arrogant and tyrannical.
Do you know what is the foundation of a dictatorship? Fear. Fear of the army, fear of the leader. Would the people even attempt to storm the guards, knowing that they were not only forfeiting their own lives, but those of their family and loved ones as well. When the masses are beaten into submission through force and fear, their is no where for dissent for form. When any scent of dissent is rooted out and brutally exorcised, it has a deterrent effect on others.
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Inara Subaka
Caldari
the united
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Posted - 2008.10.01 23:22:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Vlad Cetes
Do you know what is the foundation of a dictatorship? Fear. Fear of the army, fear of the leader. Would the people even attempt to storm the guards, knowing that they were not only forfeiting their own lives, but those of their family and loved ones as well. When the masses are beaten into submission through force and fear, their is no where for dissent for form. When any scent of dissent is rooted out and brutally exorcised, it has a deterrent effect on others.
I have to respectfully disagree with you on this point. The best control is not exerted through fear, well, not completely through fear, but respect. Sometimes, yes, respect walks hand in hand with fear, but it is the respect that will keep things in order.
Unfortunately for the Empire, I'm picking up little respect and a lot of fear towards Lady Sarum.
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Avel Kereka
Amarr
The Aegis Militia
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.10.02 00:47:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Khan Rodak
Yet, all but maybe blood was drained from that role model that is no more. Strong views turned much too short and heritage was simply left to the pigeons.
It's a fine line we walk.
One could argue that the traditional ways had decayed to such a point that we were blathering on about peace as the other Empires picked at our carcass; others, that tradition must be adhered to no matter where it takes us. If it becomes self-defeating, do we still follow it? Or do we break its rotten shell in the hopes of restoring it to what it once was, regardless of the cost?
It's a fine line we walk.
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Faraelle Brightman
Gallente
Placid Reborn
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Posted - 2008.10.02 02:12:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Sepherim
a governor has to be elected, has to create law according to the Constitution, and has to leave his office after four years for a new election to take place.
It's five years for the federal Legislature and the office of President. Planetary and local governors, many go by 5 years but it varries from planet to planet, and city/town municipalities might hold council elections as often as once a year.
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Bast's Cleric
Amarr
24th Imperial Reserves
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Posted - 2008.10.02 22:38:00 -
[156]
A Biography of our Empress.
Quote:
Jamyl is one of very few female heiressÆ in the history of the Amarr Empire. Not only that, but she is also one of the more belligerent and aggressive of the heirs. Early on she became renown for her lust for battle and her father secured a command post within the Amarr military when she was still in her early twenties. By 30 she had established herself as a fearsome fighter, never shirking from an encounter; as well as a resourceful and cunning leader. In her time Jamyl has served both as Commander of the Imperial Fleet and as War Minister, in both cases the first time a woman has held such a position.
JamylÆs views about the world are very the same as those of most military leaders through the ages - she sees the world in black and white and is totally convinced that the Amarr Empire is the greatest of the empires. She firmly believes that it was a big mistake to renounce the Reclaiming, the effort to conquer the whole world, and it is widely understood that if she would ever become empress (there has ever only been one Amarr empresses in the past) the empire would turn sharply from its current policy of peace and compromising to a much more aggressive and expansionist one.
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Sepherim
Amarr
Ordo Quaesitoris
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Posted - 2008.10.03 00:39:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Faraelle Brightman
Originally by: Sepherim
a governor has to be elected, has to create law according to the Constitution, and has to leave his office after four years for a new election to take place.
It's five years for the federal Legislature and the office of President. Planetary and local governors, many go by 5 years but it varries from planet to planet, and city/town municipalities might hold council elections as often as once a year.
Thank you Miss Brightman, I ignored those small details, it is good to know them.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.10.03 03:40:00 -
[158]
Edited by: Andreus Ixiris on 03/10/2008 03:40:35
Quote:
Jamyl is one of very few female heiress’ in the history of the Amarr Empire. Not only that, but she is also one of the more belligerent and aggressive of the heirs. Early on she became renown for her lust for battle and her father secured a command post within the Amarr military when she was still in her early twenties. By 30 she had established herself as a fearsome fighter, never shirking from an encounter; as well as a resourceful and cunning leader. In her time Jamyl has served both as Commander of the Imperial Fleet and as War Minister, in both cases the first time a woman has held such a position.
Jamyl’s views about the world are very the same as those of most military leaders through the ages - she sees the world in black and white and is totally convinced that the Amarr Empire is the greatest of the empires. She firmly believes that it was a big mistake to renounce the Reclaiming, the effort to conquer the whole world, and it is widely understood that if she would ever become empress (there has ever only been one Amarr empresses in the past) the empire would turn sharply from its current policy of peace and compromising to a much more aggressive and expansionist one.
And in light of all this the Amarr still, without sarcasm, ask us why we don't want to play nice with them. I ask you.
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Bast's Cleric
Amarr
24th Imperial Reserves
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Posted - 2008.10.03 10:39:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
And in light of all this the Amarr still, without sarcasm, ask us why we don't want to play nice with them. I ask you.
It's Because your French, Not much better than the Tribals.
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Revan Neferis
Amarr
The Archaeus of Blood
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Posted - 2008.10.03 11:50:00 -
[160]
"JamylÆs views about the world are very the same as those of most military leaders through the ages - she sees the world in black and white and is totally convinced that the Amarr Empire is the greatest of the empires. She firmly believes that it was a big mistake to renounce the Reclaiming, the effort to conquer the whole world, and it is widely understood that if she would ever become empress (there has ever only been one Amarr empresses in the past) the empire would turn sharply from its current policy of peace and compromising to a much more aggressive and expansionist one."
Power, Mighty and Wars.
And people still wonder why she is perfect to rule, even for Sani Sabik standards.
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Aloriana Jacques
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2008.10.03 13:14:00 -
[161]
The time has come,
Today is the day,
Let the heiress be queen,
Let us all pray.
Amarr Victor
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Aloriana Jacques - Skill Sheet
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Nuran Mukadder
Amarr
Athra Legio Triarii
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Posted - 2008.10.03 13:25:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Avel Kereka
One could argue that the traditional ways had decayed to such a point that we were blathering on about peace as the other Empires picked at our carcass; others, that tradition must be adhered to no matter where it takes us. If it becomes self-defeating, do we still follow it? Or do we break its rotten shell in the hopes of restoring it to what it once was, regardless of the cost?
That's a very good point, mr. Kereka. It's worth reminding that every single tradition we adhere to this day was, at its own time, revolutionary actions. Only the belief in the Light must be true and sincere troughout the ages.
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Bast's Cleric
Amarr
24th Imperial Reserves
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Posted - 2008.10.03 13:26:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Aloriana Jacques
Edited by: Aloriana Jacques on 03/10/2008 13:15:58
The time has come,
Today is the day,
Let the heiress be queen,
Let all Amarr pray.
Amarr Victor
AMARR VICTOR
LONG LIVE SARUM
LONG LIVE JAMYL
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Dismus
Gallente
Universal Star
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Posted - 2008.10.03 18:31:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Amira Silvermist
Now who would that be?
Why, would that not be Falek Grange and his ilk?
I've heard things about the welfare of that man... terrible things. A former immortal now, is this not true? A capsuleer with his "wings clipped," as it is said. How profoundly peculiar. For a man so dedicated to his faith... to his god... well, for a man like that, he certainly has been afforded little protection. To fall from such a position to the state of a mere mortal... why, surely he must, in actuality, be a sinner of colossal proportions.
In fact... I seem to remember hearing some rather terrible stories of this man. A true servant to his faith, he must have been. *scoffs*
Originally by: Draeca
Domi isn't ugly, it actually looks quite symphatic.
I mean, a crossbreed of a whale and a potato.. Now how cute is that?
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Darius Shakor
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.10.03 21:31:00 -
[165]
And so it is done.
This means nothing more than a new target officially on the firing line for assassins. Your demon God did not save your last ruler, Amarr. If she foolishly passes within range of my guns, I will do everything I can to ensure he fails to protect this one too.
Who knows though, maybe she will just clone herself again...
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Sepherim
Amarr
Ordo Quaesitoris
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Posted - 2008.10.04 13:21:00 -
[166]
This discussion has no more meaning anymore. We have the Voice of God again with us, and listening to it we will set forth and Reclaim the Minmatarr again. Long live the Empire, long live Empress Jamyl I! Amarr Victor! |
Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.10.04 17:19:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Bast's Cleric
It's Because your French, Not much better than the Tribals.
I'm sorry, what? Got something wrong with my translator here, and running that sentence through it again doesn't seem to help. Can you please rephrase it?
((OOC: Nice roleplaying there. The French were only around like, what, 20 millenia ago, and we know about 0.1% of what went on before the EVE gate collapse?)) |
Nicholas Barker
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.04 17:25:00 -
[168]
hang the heretical ***** tbh. |
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