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          DuffmanPeter 
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        Posted - 2008.09.24 04:18:00 -
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          As title is saying. Was thinking of either a pvp raven or a pvp maelstrom. 
  Also quick question. I was looking at a hyperion and mael and was wondering why does the maelstrom have a worse align time and speed? The tempest and typhoon are the fastest counterparts just seemed strange that it wasnt so for tier 3 battleships.
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          DuffmanPeter 
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        Posted - 2008.09.24 04:56:00 -
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          Edited by: DuffmanPeter on 24/09/2008 04:58:42 Yea I have all the prereqs for large auto spec except for large proj 5. But I think im gonna go for torps 5. What you guys both said made sense. Less time and more damage. Im still curious why the mael is so bulky. Makes no sense. Thanks Merlin and Kazuma for the help.
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          DuffmanPeter 
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        Posted - 2008.09.24 15:19:00 -
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          Edited by: DuffmanPeter on 24/09/2008 15:24:55 Edited by: DuffmanPeter on 24/09/2008 15:24:42 Edited by: DuffmanPeter on 24/09/2008 15:24:23 To be honest torps only do good damage against bses and bces while if I found anything lower than that im figuring i wouldnt be doing much damage. That is one of my main concerns.
  But My setup was gonna be 6 siege IIs
  1 mwd II 1 pwnage painter 1 warp disruptor II 1 invul II 1 photon II 1 large extender II
  3 bcs II 1 dc II 1 pds II
  This setup solid? Would the 4th bcs be worth it?
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          DuffmanPeter 
          Perpetua Umbra Sylph Alliance
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.09.24 18:06:00 -
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            Originally by: Grimpak
   Originally by: achoura AC + torps = Phoon = more scary than raven & maelstrom.
 
 
  now that I agree. and duffman, you still have the option of javelins. sure it takes out a bit of your damage, but the ability of shooting sub-BS targets (and extra range aswell) for moar damage is just a click away.
 
 
  Yea I agree with you there. Think Ill go for torps just by the use of javelins as well as I could make a decent typhoon just having t2 torps and some neuts or autocannons. Thanks for the info Grimpak as well as everyone else who has added to this thread.
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          DuffmanPeter 
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        Posted - 2008.09.25 04:30:00 -
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          hahah astro I hear ya. i crosstrained form caldari to minmatar and projectiles do seem to do crap damage and the cap on minmatar ships is so awful. Think Ill go Torps 5 as the consensus here it seems.
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