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Latta
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Posted - 2004.06.18 21:16:00 -
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It is with great regret that I announce the declaration and full-scale war between Carbide Industries and Crytek.
Carbide Industries hereby issues a call to their allies to rally with us in this war.
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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.06.18 21:23:00 -
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Shinra hears Carbides call. We will come to the aid of our friends.
Shinra declares war on Crytek. The full military force of our corporation will be brought to bear.
Corptheft by intimidation will not be tolerated.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2004.06.18 21:26:00 -
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I offer full support to Carbide Industries. I shall aid your operations in any way I can.
[Note: That is said by me, and does not represent Omega Corp] --------
FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU. |

Double G
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Posted - 2004.06.18 21:40:00 -
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Who is Carbide? Were they CA? I thought they were FA?
Quote: Klio ISD Posted - 2004.10.02 17:43:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well moderatly old thread got bumped, let it sit a while to see if it was going anywhere... it isn't so im gonna put this old dog down
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Reptar
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Posted - 2004.06.18 21:41:00 -
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aye Carbide all the way, I was with them when i first came to eve a truly amazing corp.
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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.06.18 21:47:00 -
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They were FA they are now neutral.
This has nothing to do with Alliance politics. Its a friendship thing.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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crice
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Posted - 2004.06.18 21:48:00 -
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Edited by: crice on 18/06/2004 21:51:49
Originally by: Lallante They were FA they are now neutral.
This has nothing to do with Alliance politics. Its a friendship thing.
We then.. you can expect our support. Just point us in the direction of where to kill.
After we find Notferr and pilage his remains.
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.06.18 21:49:00 -
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Crice do me a favor...
Glare just a bit harder....
Just a bit....
- N -
Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Zeranna Lords
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Posted - 2004.06.18 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Notferr Crice do me a favor...
Glare just a bit harder....
Just a bit....
You haven't learned not to troll, and spout useless non-related replies have you?
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.06.18 21:59:00 -
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I'm getting better and taking lessons.
Thanks for the input, - N -
- N -
Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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LLeBRing
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Posted - 2004.06.18 22:08:00 -
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Edited by: LLeBRing on 18/06/2004 22:10:01
Originally by: Zeranna Lords
Originally by: Notferr Crice do me a favor...
Glare just a bit harder....
Just a bit....
You haven't learned not to troll, and spout useless non-related replies have you?
He does it all the time. Part of how to be a useless forum troll 101. Recommended course for all nubs.
Nuttin but corn bread en chicken for this fella  |

Znaei
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Posted - 2004.06.18 22:15:00 -
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A personal note.
I find it quite amusing to see this post. Mainly because you have been *****ing about CoD would get involved in this. We told you that CoD would not get involved as we see this to be between 2 corps, Crytek and Carbide. Crytek even asked CoD not to participate.
Now, you in some sort of desperate attempt to get your 'hired and questionable' friends to join you against Crytek. Are you really not men/women enough to fight on your own?
I cant see this changing anythig really, as those who are coming to your aid are kos anyways, for being pirates. The only thing it changes imho is that it proves that you are too afraid fighting them on your own.
I never understood why FA booted you, as you were a very wealthy and seemingly strong corp. But now I truly understand it.
On a sidenote, wouldnt it be grand that every corp that declares war or gets a war declared upon them, would post it on the forums? 
Just my 2 cents
clagnuts> im drunk just come back from pirates night in spain , wtf i thought it was some eve guys getting together for a drink , turned out to be a feken real pirates show , doh |

Lord Draco
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Posted - 2004.06.18 22:20:00 -
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What is so hard to understand about ppl valuing friendship and honor? I salute my CA brethern who will undoubitly crush any who stand in their way.
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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.06.18 22:33:00 -
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"'hired and questionable' "
Actually I was in carbide (then Shadow Free Trade) for the first 2 months of retail. I mined with Latta (then Lotta) and helped purchase the first Maller BP in the game about 5 days into retail. I had 2 mallers free from the corp at a time when they were rarer than golddust.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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TylerJames
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Posted - 2004.06.18 23:26:00 -
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Yah..hired and questionable...what a joke......I really don't think that either Shinra..or Crice...need to be "hired", neither corp is on the needy side....and as far as questionable...there is nothing to be questioned..if you are in CA space or a known war zone...and the resources to know where those zones are easily available to all....then you know exactly what the response will be. No *questions* there. Anyone foolish enough to declare war on Carbide deserves what they get..and should expect a large force of people to help Carbide, as they are a well known, helpful corp whom many of us have been part of at one time or another. Latta..my corp is small ATM, but if there is any way we can be of help, gimme a holler or mail. ~TJ
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Trianon Starstealer
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Posted - 2004.06.18 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: Znaei A personal note.
I find it quite amusing to see this post. Mainly because you have been *****ing about CoD would get involved in this. We told you that CoD would not get involved as we see this to be between 2 corps, Crytek and Carbide. Crytek even asked CoD not to participate.
Now, you in some sort of desperate attempt to get your 'hired and questionable' friends to join you against Crytek. Are you really not men/women enough to fight on your own?
I cant see this changing anythig really, as those who are coming to your aid are kos anyways, for being pirates. The only thing it changes imho is that it proves that you are too afraid fighting them on your own.
I never understood why FA booted you, as you were a very wealthy and seemingly strong corp. But now I truly understand it.
On a sidenote, wouldnt it be grand that every corp that declares war or gets a war declared upon them, would post it on the forums? 
Just my 2 cents
LOL..... Since when have Thundercats been bothered by piartes...or are ya gonna start popping m0o/rkk/Evol......
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Znaei
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Posted - 2004.06.18 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Trianon Starstealer
LOL..... Since when have Thundercats been bothered by piartes...or are ya gonna start popping m0o/rkk/Evol......
Why are you bringing the NCA vs PA war into this thread? 
Your reply drips of ignorance, its pretty obvious you have no idea what TC is and has always been about.
Pleas stop trolling and hijacking other ppl threads.
clagnuts> im drunk just come back from pirates night in spain , wtf i thought it was some eve guys getting together for a drink , turned out to be a feken real pirates show , doh |

Kronarty
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Posted - 2004.06.19 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: Znaei We told you that CoD would not get involved
Why should they believe what COD says?
COD certainly has a history of saying one thing and doing another, don't you think so Notferr?
Or you already forgot the TS conversation we had the day before (actually less than 12 hours before) you guys declared war on PA?
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juduzz
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Posted - 2004.06.19 00:14:00 -
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Only seen you guys flying around PB ect seem like a peacefull corp.
So go forth and win and become stronger by this conflict carbide best of luck. ----------------------------------------------
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AvApsi
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Posted - 2004.06.19 00:36:00 -
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Edited by: AvApsi on 19/06/2004 00:39:19 I'm so dissapointed Latta... call in friends? and people u have been mining with.. to tell u the truth most people reading this don't got a clue about what this war is all about... maybe u should explain em?.. well we startet a corp on corp war.. now ure dragin' friends allies ect. in... should i then call in my family, my cat, daughter and people who i said hello to in local or people who listened to my radio show? maybe a GM i once had a pettion going with?.. Carbide ure way more members than we are.. why all this? why not explain people what this is all about and stop draggin in everybody else.
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Latta
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Posted - 2004.06.19 00:42:00 -
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Edited by: Latta on 19/06/2004 00:43:30 Here is the reason
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Celestial Voice
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Posted - 2004.06.19 01:04:00 -
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Ironically Celestial Apocalypse supports the anti-crytex bandwagon. They are nought but pirates. They ganked a former corp member after allowing him safe passage through unclaimed space.
Crytex are currently KOS for Celest. COD should consider expulsion of Crytex from COD. Celest asked for a COD representative to contact us regarding this issue and have heard nothing, can a GMT COD represenative contact Shadowthrone regarding this issue ASAP or escalation will insue.
Celes Kill Board
"Celestial Apocalypse, death from above"
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Kalast Raven
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Posted - 2004.06.19 02:30:00 -
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Ex-pirates are notoriously untrustworthy. There is no way to tell which will truly reform and which are corruptly inserting themselves in your organization. Thus though it may be unfair I would advise never trusting them. Eve players are hard enough to establish trust with, without involving known risks. Killer Clowns, the corporation founded by a proud scammer heads the list of persons from which I would never knowingly recruit. And Crytek is the successor to that legacy. I think you would do well to listen to the Celestial Voice, and expel Crytek. -------
K. Raven
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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.06.19 02:38:00 -
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Just some prime Crytek quotes that influenced Shinras decision to show them the meaning of PvP.
"[ 2004.06.14 22:18:31 ] NeoChrome > yes and the next few minutes, the survival of your corp will depend on how the outcome of this discussion"
"[ 2004.06.14 22:28:13 ] NeoChrome > they are quite unhappy about the situation, and if they dont get some form of severence pay ,im afraid this could lead to an uggly situation"
"[ 2004.06.14 22:29:08 ] NeoChrome > yes it is... and in 24 hours its yours also [ 2004.06.14 22:29:19 ] NeoChrome > get ready for WAR !!"
I think this is enough justification. This maniac thinks he can bully a peaceful industrial corp into giving him money and Blueprints. Lets see how he can handle an 100 member PvP dedicated one.
What is the point in having friends if you dont help them when they get victimized?
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2004.06.19 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante Just some prime Crytek quotes that influenced Shinras decision to show them the meaning of PvP.
"[ 2004.06.14 22:18:31 ] NeoChrome > yes and the next few minutes, the survival of your corp will depend on how the outcome of this discussion"
"[ 2004.06.14 22:28:13 ] NeoChrome > they are quite unhappy about the situation, and if they dont get some form of severence pay ,im afraid this could lead to an uggly situation"
"[ 2004.06.14 22:29:08 ] NeoChrome > yes it is... and in 24 hours its yours also [ 2004.06.14 22:29:19 ] NeoChrome > get ready for WAR !!"
I think this is enough justification. This maniac thinks he can bully a peaceful industrial corp into giving him money and Blueprints. Lets see how he can handle an 100 member PvP dedicated one.
What is the point in having friends if you dont help them when they get victimized?
Lol I never thought I would say this but here goes,
GO LALLANTE GO
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2004.06.19 05:29:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante Just some prime Crytek quotes that influenced Shinras decision to show them the meaning of PvP.
"[ 2004.06.14 22:18:31 ] NeoChrome > yes and the next few minutes, the survival of your corp will depend on how the outcome of this discussion"
"[ 2004.06.14 22:28:13 ] NeoChrome > they are quite unhappy about the situation, and if they dont get some form of severence pay ,im afraid this could lead to an uggly situation"
"[ 2004.06.14 22:29:08 ] NeoChrome > yes it is... and in 24 hours its yours also [ 2004.06.14 22:29:19 ] NeoChrome > get ready for WAR !!"
I think this is enough justification. This maniac thinks he can bully a peaceful industrial corp into giving him money and Blueprints. Lets see how he can handle an 100 member PvP dedicated one.
What is the point in having friends if you dont help them when they get victimized?
So this is what you were doing when you logged at your safespot trolling the forums And me sitting waiting at the gate and you wasting my time again I really think these guys have nothing to worry about a 100 member corp dedicated to logging at safespots.
My 2 Cents
" Stay Frosty "
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Lord Draco
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Posted - 2004.06.19 05:52:00 -
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Originally by: corporal hicks
Originally by: Lallante Just some prime Crytek quotes that influenced Shinras decision to show them the meaning of PvP.
"[ 2004.06.14 22:18:31 ] NeoChrome > yes and the next few minutes, the survival of your corp will depend on how the outcome of this discussion"
"[ 2004.06.14 22:28:13 ] NeoChrome > they are quite unhappy about the situation, and if they dont get some form of severence pay ,im afraid this could lead to an uggly situation"
"[ 2004.06.14 22:29:08 ] NeoChrome > yes it is... and in 24 hours its yours also [ 2004.06.14 22:29:19 ] NeoChrome > get ready for WAR !!"
I think this is enough justification. This maniac thinks he can bully a peaceful industrial corp into giving him money and Blueprints. Lets see how he can handle an 100 member PvP dedicated one.
What is the point in having friends if you dont help them when they get victimized?
So this is what you were doing when you logged at your safespot trolling the forums And me sitting waiting at the gate and you wasting my time again I really think these guys have nothing to worry about a 100 member corp dedicated to logging at safespots.
My 2 Cents
Well, he is involved in this thread you are not. You sir are the troll here, arent you? But, to see that would involve ration, intelligent thought.
I fully support Shinra and will offer them any help they need or I can provide.
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Deveraux
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Posted - 2004.06.19 07:10:00 -
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Originally by: Znaei A personal note.
I find it quite amusing to see this post. Mainly because you have been *****ing about CoD would get involved in this. We told you that CoD would not get involved as we see this to be between 2 corps, Crytek and Carbide. Crytek even asked CoD not to participate.
Now, you in some sort of desperate attempt to get your 'hired and questionable' friends to join you against Crytek. Are you really not men/women enough to fight on your own?
I cant see this changing anythig really, as those who are coming to your aid are kos anyways, for being pirates. The only thing it changes imho is that it proves that you are too afraid fighting them on your own.
I never understood why FA booted you, as you were a very wealthy and seemingly strong corp. But now I truly understand it.
On a sidenote, wouldnt it be grand that every corp that declares war or gets a war declared upon them, would post it on the forums? 
Just my 2 cents
Znaei, I believe that you still don't understand that entire situation. Or you would not have said what you did. Carbide had its reasons for not wanting to be in FA anymore, FA had its reasons for not wanting us there anymore. It was a peaceful split, with no further complaints from either side. |

KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.06.19 11:22:00 -
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That looks a pretty weak excuse for war to me, and nothing more than a pirate ransom.
You can't work for a corp for months, and then say one day, I'm leaving now, I want it all back, it doesn't work like that. You gracefully bow out and wish your friends good luck, not hold them to ransom with a war dec.
As for Cryteks attitude of this is nothing to do with your or our allies, I think you should maybe consider your reasons for your participation in the northern war. ---
Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk |

Darken Two
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Posted - 2004.06.19 11:38:00 -
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This is one very weird thread. I never thought I would be here to see the day when CA corps, PA corps and Celest all agree on an issue and even promise support. It seems Carbide isnt alone.
Ps. I hate bullies.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Clipped Wings
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Posted - 2004.06.19 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two This is one very weird thread. I never thought I would be here to see the day when CA corps, PA corps and Celest all agree on an issue and even promise support. It seems Carbide isnt alone.
True that. That's almost as strange as the vaunted 2 hour ceasefire bewteen SA and CA forces, due to the heavy lag less than a week ago.
Truth is stranger than fiction ;)
Originally by: Darken Two
Ps. I hate bullies.
You ain't alone on that notion.
-Clipped Wings of LFC
"I believe in the theoretical benevolence, and practical malignity of man."
~William Hazlitt
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SJ Talsar
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Posted - 2004.06.19 12:23:00 -
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In the meeting where Crytek's leadership made demands to Carbide Industries on the penalty of war, they clearly stated they would declare war on anyone supporting Carbide Industries in this matter.
People from both XIF and CA were present in that meeting, in a cooperative way attending despite a hot war of weeks. And by statements of Crytek, (the member corps of) both XIF and CA will get involved due to Crytek declaring war on both. Just as CoD stands behind Crytek, based on their membership, does CoD expect CA or XIF to do otherwise once Crytek holds its word and declares war on CA/XIF corps ?
Also, please bear in mind that huge wars have been started for less reasons than in responds to an outright threat of war....
I urge CoD to realise they are sitting on a powder keg and resolve the matter by diplomatic means. CoD stands a lot to win in terms of respect by the community upon resolving this absurd matter. And more to lose than they can imagine if they let things explode ...
SJ Talsar, Syncore battle command Syncore is a member of XIF
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Talsarius
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Posted - 2004.06.19 13:13:00 -
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Just for the record - we've only declared war on Carbide.
So don't put words in our mouth.
If we declare war on anyone else - I'll be sure to release a statement saying just that.
We welcome any corporation would like to declare war with us - and at this point, we don't even care about your pathetic little reasons.
Just do it.
Ouchies |

Chenta Peng
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Posted - 2004.06.19 13:24:00 -
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"should i then call in my family, my cat, daughter and people who i said hello to in local or people who listened to my radio show? "
Nope. This war should not be happening.
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.06.19 13:26:00 -
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Edited by: Jarjar on 19/06/2004 13:28:05
Originally by: Talsarius Just for the record - we've only declared war on Carbide.
So don't put words in our mouth.
If we declare war on anyone else - I'll be sure to release a statement saying just that.
We welcome any corporation would like to declare war with us - and at this point, we don't even care about your pathetic little reasons.
Just do it.
I haven't seen any pathetic reasons. On the other side, I haven only seen Shinra officially saying they'll go to war... We will probably keep you KOS since you seem to be made up of "ex" pirates who still kill innocents and admit to doing it.
Edit: As usual I'm not official spokesman and this might change yada yada 
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.06.19 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: KIAInkZ
You can't work for a corp for months, and then say one day, I'm leaving now, I want it all back, it doesn't work like that. You gracefully bow out and wish your friends good luck, not hold them to ransom with a war dec.
This is absolutely true. You can't ask for a lot of it back. You work with your friends as long as your goals are similar, and you cannot ask them later to repay you because the money that you made for them was already used to either protect your ship or protect you politically so that you can do things that you like.
You should, however, just stop working for a corporation at a first hint that your contribution to the corporation is starting to get wasted or that you are not being appreciated. Because if all your worth to the corp is in giving money to it then when you stop giving money then you will not be liked, and if you will not be liked when you stop giving money then why be in that corp? There are a lot of bad CEOs and leaders in Eve. Just because you met them when the game went retail does not make them good ppl.
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Croesus
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Posted - 2004.06.19 14:51:00 -
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There is no cant or should in the world of eve since there isnt anybody to enforce those policys you think apply. The only thing that matters in eve is who has the biggest gun(and frankly that doesnt matter a whole lot with that 12 weak insurance thingy). These members feel exploided and used and its perfectly understandable they want something in return because it hurts being used.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.06.19 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Croesus These members feel exploided and used and its perfectly understandable they want something in return because it hurts being used.
It is not established that they were exploited. Just because they feel that they were does not make them so. In this game there are things that happen outside of the mining field and the miners are not aware of them quite often. After all the political game is what the CEOs like about Eve. The good thing for miners is that since they were making so much money for the corp when they leave that corp this eliminates a huge hole in their wallet which means that the miners will soon be ridiculously rich. On the other hand the corporation that relied on them is more broke than ever before without their worker bees.
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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.06.19 15:16:00 -
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How can anyone who got 2 Free BSs and a loan to buy 70mills worth of implants claim to have been exploited?
Its pretty clear that carbide is more financially transparent than more or less any other corp Ive heard of. All your claims of ebay and theft are totally unjustified and a silly cover to your own greed. You were a member of a communist corp, and got 2 free BS, thats more than the vast majority of eve have.
Sit down, STFU and stop playing the 'injured smallguy'. You're a pirate and a wannabe corp thief, simple as that.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Croesus
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Posted - 2004.06.19 15:25:00 -
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lol lallante you need to chill, on the exploid thing are you willing to mine for me high lvl mins for 8 months, im perfectly willing to let you have 2 tier 2 bs and a loan for 70 mill when your finished :)
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Chenta Peng
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Posted - 2004.06.19 16:08:00 -
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I work mining for Carbide Industries. They in turn make a profit from my efforts. They invest this profit into me (new ships, mods, ammo) and the into the corp (buying BPO's).
The corp also makes me (and all other members) BPC's of ANYTHING the corp owns a BPO for. I WANT them to get more BPO's. It benefits all corp members! Key words here are CORP MEMBERS. If I leave the corp after I helped them obtain those BPO's I certainly DO NOT have a right to make claim for them. They were purchased with corp profits FOR CORP MEMBERS USAGE; NOT for corp member OWNERSHIP. The collective corp owns them.. end of story.
When you quit the corp, you lost access to these benefits. Get over it! You knew all along how this system worked and had NO problem participating during your stay. I can't believe you were able to convince ANYONE that YOU were victims.
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Dray
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Posted - 2004.06.19 16:20:00 -
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as a neutral i find this whole carbide/crytek thing intresting and ive posted on the thread where opinions were asked about the whole compensation thing, cash bpo's etc, ive already posted on that thread with my thoughts, so i want to ask a couple of questions just to satisfy my curiosty,
1. why didnt the ex-carbide members ask for some sort of severence package when they left carbide? 2. why after time has passed do they decide to ask for a severence package? 3. why do crytek support their claims?
now these are just questions from a intrested neutral observer, so dont flame me if thats ok, but as i said on the other thread there is quite obviously a hidden agenda here, unless of course crytek has proof of underhand activities by carbide against the ex carbide members now in crytek, but i doubt this, after all we wouldve seen the proof by now.
also its this neutral observers humble opinion that crytek wanted a war, as the demands made by them namely bs bpos or massive ammounts of isk are totally unacceptable to anybody regardless of circumstances knowing full well carbide would never accept, and who could blame them, the demands made and so lead to war.
I picked up this ace book today everyone rates it as a must buy for the budding military genius, tho ive decided to rename it as "Sun Tzu's art of the bloody obvious" |

Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.06.19 18:06:00 -
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LOL. Funny thread.
1st off, take a hike you PA/NCA hijackers, we're talking about killing some corp theft and pvp wannabe scum here, not about the righteoeness of life .
2nd, Latta/Lotta is a good guy, and out of all the FA corporations, I would have to say that Carbide was the best, and most honourable.
3rd, because my brothers in arms of Shinra and OC are going to town (war) on these 'crytek' guys, So is SIM! (Or at least I am), prepare to meet the fate of asteroids! (obliteration in a less then civil way).
-The DarkHand
** Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member **
http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg
Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley.
The Prop And Notferr Chronicles
Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE. |

Tyrande
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Posted - 2004.06.19 18:28:00 -
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This is amusing. Where are Carbide?
We may be visiting them again.
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Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.06.19 18:33:00 -
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rawr!
-The DarkHand
** Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member **
http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg
Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley.
The Prop And Notferr Chronicles
Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE. |

Alexandra Belani
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Posted - 2004.06.19 18:36:00 -
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rawr!!!!
*kiss to the Darkhand*
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Esla Jaru
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Posted - 2004.06.19 19:07:00 -
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Edited by: Esla Jaru on 19/06/2004 19:10:24
Originally by: Croesus lol lallante you need to chill, on the exploid thing are you willing to mine for me high lvl mins for 8 months, im perfectly willing to let you have 2 tier 2 bs and a loan for 70 mill when your finished :)
I would jump at that offer, cause in my effors to get my first bs, it was mining all the stupid low ores that took teh most time. ninja mining all the mega and zyd in my cruiser in cfs took less than 2 weeks. after castor with stronger npc's, its alot harder to do.
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Celestial Voice
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Posted - 2004.06.20 09:43:00 -
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Celestial Apocalypse's grievance with Crytex and COD has been settled amicably. Celestial Apocalypse once again has neutral stance to both COD and crtyex.
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"Celestial Apocalypse, death from above"
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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.06.20 11:36:00 -
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lol *cough* paid off
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Jadrut
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Posted - 2004.06.20 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante lol *cough* paid off
my uber spunky cannon V comes in handy thanks
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Hakera
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Posted - 2004.06.20 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Celestial Voice Celestial Apocalypse's grievance with Crytex and COD has been settled amicably. Celestial Apocalypse once again has neutral stance to both COD and crtyex.
lol - pirate hunters who can be bribed.
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Celestial Voice
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Posted - 2004.06.20 15:02:00 -
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Edited by: Celestial Voice on 20/06/2004 15:05:09 Celestial Apocalypse were NOT bribed by COD. A mistake was made by some Crytex pilots and they compensated the pilot involved for his loss.
COD have apoligised to us for this issue,and been more than helpful in trying to sort it out. Many Cyrtex pilots have negative security ratings as they are ex-pirates. Celestial Apocalypse has always maintained that pirates can change and reform. We have assurances that they are not currently pirating neutrals and we will keep a watchful eye.
Celestial Apoclaypse have neutral second accounts for which we "test for pirates" and if crytex are found wanting they will recieve our full attention.
Celestial Apocalypse cannot be bribed, we are "untouchables" albeit financially poor ones .
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"Celestial Apocalypse, death from above"
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.06.20 15:12:00 -
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Miss voice, im still looking for my cut of that 500mill isk thank u very much u sexy little minx u:).. but ill settle for some hot loving little lady.....
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Argent A'losonde
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Posted - 2004.06.23 01:13:00 -
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This conflict has been fascinating to follow. I believe I have read every related thread in its totality and even the carbide forums at eve-i in my desire to understand this conflict at its roots. At several points opinions were asked for and I offer my unbiased thoughts based on what I have read...
1. If the ex-members of carbide (the claimants) were pursuing compensation on some sort of "legal" ground, I believe their claims would have to be ruled as irrational and unfounded. They joined a "socialist" corp with full knowledge of its charter and membership policies. After eight months of membership they cannot claim ignorance, and they have little ground to stand on when citing abuse and "slave" labor conditions. There is a little button called "resign from corp" which prevents most if not all slavery in EVE. The idea of a ceo or directors milking their corp for ebay profits boils my blood, but even if the alleged were true in this case, how would that entitle the claimants to even 10 isk? Leave the corp, or stop contributing.
2. Seeing no rational "legal" basis to support the claimants case, I am forced to conclude, with the knowledge I have, that the conflict is really about wanting restitution for personal emotional injury. I sense that someone had a personality conflict, or they did not feel appreciated, or that they had an expectation which was not met. The claimants may have an strong case if they were to argue that their corp was stingy, but I think no right to demand monetary restitution because of it.
Personally, I sympathize with wanting my corp contributions to be recognized and in the end to turn out to be a profitable personal investment which fattens my bank account. But in the end analysis I think the claimants have only themselves to blame. If you are going to go to war demanding compensation for your service in CI, then dont do it under the guise of "justice." Do it under the rightful flag of "vengeance" and "extortion". Youre ****ed off because you feel taken for granted and your feelings were hurt.. fine. Declare war if that is how you respond when your feelings have been hurt.
I think you should have taken the 1 billion offered, it was more than genereous in my opinion. Bullies don't deserve to be rewarded for their strong-arm tactics and you are a bully when you open "negotations" aiming a loaded,*****ed, and hair-triggered gun. Just my personal opinion.
"The direct use of force is such a poor solution to any problem, it is generally employed only by small children and large nations." ~David Friedman
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