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Mongoose
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Posted - 2003.06.16 07:13:00 -
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Its good to see that this mmorpg seems to get rid of the younger peeps and get some decent mature older players that will actually enjoy the game :)
P.S. It means u wont see 12 year olds running around in battleships :)
Edited by: Mongoose on 18/06/2003 20:49:34
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Ruulex DeMors
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Posted - 2003.06.16 07:28:00 -
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If you aren't in a Pirate Corp and have never PvP'ed then why the hell are you posting on this topic?
The m0o topics are over and done with, their setups got nerfed and the security systems are working like they were supposed to in the beginning. The "whining" about PvP has basically stopped. If you go into a .2 system and find an enemy Cruiser (or now Battleship) sitting at a base, get the hell out of dodge if you can't take them (I've done this myself, no shame in running from a fight you can't win).
I'm really sick of the Whiners griping about whiners griping about whiners and it's a never ending cycle you see...Because now you got me doing the same thing. And I'm GLAD PvP is in game...I'm also glad to see pirating has consequences now.
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Ehxo
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Posted - 2003.06.16 08:36:00 -
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Well... he's not talknig only about the forum whiners, he's referring mostly to the ingame ones.
I am in a pirate corp, and even if we are in a 0.0 region, we still keep seeing idiots in level 4 indies that come alone, unescorted to our system, without even checking the map or local channel count for possible threats... and then, ***** at us via ingame email about how we "ruined their game" and that we must all be 15 years old griefers yadda yadda... because they got their precious and only ship blown up and they lost all the 2 Mil worth stack of BP's and other valuables they were carrying.
That's what he means. And I agree with him, deeply.
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Ruulex DeMors
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Posted - 2003.06.16 09:22:00 -
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Ehxo, they have no reason to complain if they are caught in 0.0 Space. That's their fault. If they are whining (make sure that it is true whining and not Roleplaying), turn them in for harrassment.
I enjoy having PC pirates in-game. It adds an element of fear that is essential for EVE not to become just a market/mining sim.
Oh as a sidenote: I'll enjoy blasting you into space dust for wiping out helpless Indy's (unless they were Minmatar, my CEO has taught me to care not for that worthless race of slaves) ;-)
Edit: Nevermind you're a worthless Slave and a pirate that's doubly cursed in our book....Don't expect to live when you encounter a Marshal
Edited by: Ruulex DeMors on 16/06/2003 09:23:56
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Interm-CEO for EVE Marshals
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Mongoose
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Posted - 2003.06.16 09:55:00 -
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:)
Edited by: Mongoose on 18/06/2003 20:50:27
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slipshot
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Posted - 2003.06.16 10:04:00 -
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gotta say i agree with that entirely. I have been mining in 0.6 sectors without an escort before and have had to run many times from the enemy (especially when i scavenged some cargo without asking first and nearly got my ship blown to pieces.. :) but i expect this. Anywhere outside 1.0 sec space there is a risk for you and your ship. This is the way it should be. I would not even dream of going through 0.0 sec space without either a bloody big escort of the backing of the people running it. Exploiters are different (ppl exploiting bugs for advantages -but i think CCP have done a good job cutting this down with the patches) but if the means are fair live with it, and dont moan when you die!!!
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Ruulex DeMors
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Posted - 2003.06.16 10:25:00 -
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You explained it much better that time Mongoose :)
I've made my thoughts known on that thread...EVE has PvP, Pirates are free to do as they wish, but expect some consequences for your actions. EVE would be far less....enjoyable without PC pirates to chase.
See you in game Mongoose, though one of us will walk away a clone after the encounter ;-)
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Ends
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Posted - 2003.06.16 11:51:00 -
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haha Pkers are pitable. Your just slime on the bottom of my toilet bowl.
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Cassim
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Posted - 2003.06.16 11:57:00 -
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did some scouting, noticed no sentry guns in mara, will be back soon :)
Ywev
M0o
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Captain Bluebear
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Posted - 2003.06.16 12:01:00 -
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Setec, roflmao. Can't believe NL huffed out, you were being so reasonable too.
ps, noobs, if you're going to put all your eggs in one basket, insure the basket.
pps, that bestower is one big slow basket, consider travelling with escorts next time.
ppps, i'm not a pirate, or a PK'er, and never likely to be, but they have a part to play, otherwise it's all just a big mining/trading simulator.
Edited by: Captain Bluebear on 16/06/2003 12:10:47
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FlakCannon
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Posted - 2003.06.16 12:01:00 -
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Why dont you come over to my cruiser and start a conversation like that. You and you little indy buddy would have been blown to smitherines by the time you got your first sentenced typed. Of course you only pick on the n00bs in haulers. |
Lymm
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Posted - 2003.06.16 12:09:00 -
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Heh, your alot more patient than I am Setac. Im not heartless mind ya, I just have a very poor attention span.
Good show thou.
Anyway, for as why he doesnt hit cruisers, thats because he is smarter than me :P Sometimes a cruiser will pay up, most of the time they are gona fight you for it. I stop cruisers *shrugs*
Oh, on a side note, a hammer head drone is wimpy. Seven hamerhead drones is BAD.
"Who won the bet on when I would get my Cruiser blown up?" -Russian |
Setec
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Posted - 2003.06.16 12:11:00 -
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Max Power: It was a 0.4 system a couple jumps from the supply on a robotics route.
FlakCannon: Actually, I don't just pick on noobs in haulers. I hold up single cruisers that come along, as well. Moas, mallers, whatever. And I don't exactly have a crappy loadout... this game is paper-rock-scissors enough that every cruiser loadout can be easily beaten by the right countermeasures, but I'm betting that unless you're lucky you don't have what you'd need to beat me. And nobody can kill me "before I got my first sentence typed" unless they're in one heck of a battleship. :)
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Demangel
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Posted - 2003.06.16 12:12:00 -
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@Setec
See a situation like that is frigging great, ALMOST enough to convince me to give Pirating a try.
Well played SETEC, I loved how you truly played the part with that poor SOB hehehe.
I can't blame him for trying to talk you out of it though, I can see you must actually have a heart since you negotiated down to 2K units before he changed his mind, was that still half his hold or less?
LOL funny funny funny :)
I know I'd be ticked if I was him, but your willingness to negotiate would at least mean something heheh I certainly wouldn't quit at least.
Galaxion > If you drove a car shaped like a thorax women would call you
Demangel > Dude... I would call..
Demangel > wait that sounded g@y I bet.
Galaxion > Just a bit.
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Mach
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Posted - 2003.06.16 12:15:00 -
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And after reading this post I wish I knew why you take sec status hit for destorying and pod killing a pirate.
This needs to be fixed. Bounty Hunters will not be able to counter pirates if they take sec status hits and are chased by empire forces.
In my opinion if you pod kill someone with a negative sec status you should get a boost to your sec status, not a hit.
I'm not whining about pirates. I'm whining about a security rating system that punishes you for killing them |
Setec
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Posted - 2003.06.16 12:19:00 -
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Here's another amusing one... we held up a noob in a starter ship with an empty cargo hold last night. :) Warp jammed him, double webified him, brought our 2 big ships over next to him...
Setec > Hi, I'm a pirate.
Setec > BOO!
Setec > Hope that was scary.
Setec > You're free to go now.
Lokki > yes very! thank you!
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slipshot
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Posted - 2003.06.16 12:33:00 -
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Fantastic post. I myself have been challenged a few times while scavenging cargo - even got an earful for trailing through peoples trash ;) But, if done in an RPG way, they are great fun, and make Eve the game it is.
If going on a dangerous mission, leave stuff behind so you dont loose everything, get an escort or contact the guys for safe passage.
If people threaten you shout back, stand your ground, or like me, back out and run :)
Thats the fun of Eve - there are no rules when it come to PvP.
Pirates hang out in low sec areas. They do this becaues if they come into high sec they get chased by police.
New people start in high sec ares. They do this because if they go intop low sec areas they get chased by pirates and laughed at :)
Dont take valuable cargo into low sec ares.
Dont **** people off or they will come and find you (these are all character names on this board).
And dont whine when you get Pkd. Its the game. It makes it fun.
And those moaning about money and needed to get it - there are always people that wil provide you with an escort for nothing, just for the fun of the game - just ask. I was miming in my 0.6 sec area where my base is. I have only two mining lasers on my bantam - no offensive weapons -so i mine where others are and ask dfor protection - most give it to me -and what makes it better- they are real people, nit soem half arsed AI. You know when you ask them they are considering all the options - do they kill you, do they help you etc. AND THAT IS WHAT MAKES EVE FUN...
sorry about the lack of continuity - i wrote them as i though them :)
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The Slayer
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Posted - 2003.06.16 12:37:00 -
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Sectec mate, All I have to say to you is this...... GOOD SHOW!!!
THAT is how it should be done PK'ers, please take note. I got blown up and podded by m0o without word of a warning in 2 shots, nearly quit the game myself as u cant be expected to fight against that. And before u say"I coulda run", if my ship had been in one piece when all the stupid crates had loaded, I WOULD HAVE.
The way sectec handled this encounter WAS a little bit more than I expect from most pirates, but a little warning and one chance to comply in a PM is all I ask (some people dont always look at local before trying to run)
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slipshot
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Posted - 2003.06.16 12:41:00 -
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Now that i agree with -but bringing the weapons down so at least you have a chance to survive has helped. I agree with Pkers, not with exploiters...
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Tru7h
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Posted - 2003.06.16 13:59:00 -
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lol Sectec
i realy like how EVE does PVP, the PK'ers are like super npc pirates that are realy smart, not other players with a bone to pick (like Neocron)
besides nothings more fun then badmouthing a pirate that just blew up your ship (RP of course)
-Tru7h
-loves calling people Scurvy bastards
Edited by: Tru7h on 16/06/2003 14:01:48 |
Dearth
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Posted - 2003.06.16 14:44:00 -
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Anybody notice that we peeked out at 6000 max uses this week. That's 400 less than last week. So what another 500 or so ****ed off players next week. At that rate in three months the only thing left will be Pirates. I hope you guys like Playing with yourselves.
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Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2003.06.16 15:01:00 -
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That's the way piracy should be played, good show Sectec. I'd gladly dump my cargo for you, hehe.
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Lokki
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Posted - 2003.06.16 15:14:00 -
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> Here's another amusing one... we held up a
> noob in a starter ship with an empty cargo
> hold last night. :) Warp jammed him, double
> webified him, brought our 2 big ships over
> next to him...
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> Setec > Hi, I'm a pirate.
> Setec > BOO!
> Setec > Hope that was scary.
> Setec > You're free to go now.
> Lokki > yes very! thank you!
Yea that was hysterical! lol! Was actually
on my way to Caldari space to meet up with a
friend and figured the n00b ship with nothing
in it was not only a target not worth most
people's time, but also no great loss if someone
did pop it.
It was nice to meet up with something besides
NPC pirates for a change!
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Maarek Steele
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Posted - 2003.06.16 16:47:00 -
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Setec man, you're way too nice.
Once you're warpjammed, we send you a chat invite. If you refuse it, you take an egg home. If you accept it, we scan you, give you our demands, and you have 15 seconds to comply, or you take an egg home. Yes we do go easier on obvious noobs, or smaller noob corps. Larger corps, people trying to pretend they're a noob, etc. of course we go harder on.
Quick, to the point, and utterly professional.
One thing I grow tired of is the threats of "OMG you will sooo have 100 gazillion Moa's from our battlefleet after you!"
-=Maarek Steele=-
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Johrenn
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Posted - 2003.06.16 17:18:00 -
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I really hate the use of the word "peeps." It makes me question the user's level of maturity. That's the sound baby chickens make.
Well played, Setec. I hope more pirates follow the same code. It shows a scrap of honor. Twisted, but a form of it nonetheless.
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Mira Finoso
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Posted - 2003.06.16 17:46:00 -
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Sectec is a true pirate. Just like the one I aspire to be. Well done, mate. Good show. It's a role-playing game, people, and pirates are part of it. I wouldn't play at all if I thought there was no danger out there.
And to all those complaining about being killed, listen up; YOU CAN PLAY THIS GAME WITHOUT AN OUNCE OF RISK and make lots of money.
I currently spend most of my time with my corp-mates in 0.8 or higher space. We are doing quite well and there is no chance of one of use being taken by a player pirate. We rob NPCs and sell their goods back to them for great money. You can avoid being attacked by players... There really is no room for anyone to complain. I love this game... :)
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Setec
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Posted - 2003.06.16 18:37:00 -
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My pirating style isn't really about role-playing. It's more about making money. Most people have pretty crappy modules on their ships and aren't carrying much valuable cargo, and even if they are it often gets destroyed when the ship explodes. It's in my best interest and my target's to settle the deal with a heavy toll--I gain more, they lose less. I have fun trying to figure out the best way to convince them of that. It's diplomacy at gunpoint.
I don't really like to cause grief for innocent players, but my aversion to it is not strong enough to stand in the way of my profit. Provokation is another story. If someone trash talks me while they're in my sights, or if I perceive them as a threat in some way to me or my interests (even if it's not their fault) then I shoot first, ask questions later.
Thank you to all who complimented my technique. :) I appreciate the publicity because people I rob who know that I make good on my word are more likely to trust me not to kill them when they pay.
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Elias Root
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Posted - 2003.06.17 00:17:00 -
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Well - how to win friends and influence people. Didn't forsee myself saying anything like this, but that was a nifty piece of piracy, Setec. Considering this is a role-playing game, it seems a bit of a cheap shot for your mark to try emotional blackmail that you'll force him to leave the game. And if he does plan to stay he won't make a very good trader if he doesn't learn to spot a good offer when it's laid down - only half his cargo to get away with his ship and his life, what was he thinking?
Keep this style of play up and you'll become a regular **** Turpin in Eve :)
From my point of view as a player, I think this type of piracy should suit the game well and I'd be happy to see more of it. It'll keep traders on our toes, and add to creating an interesting gameworld for everyone without unnecessarily pushing people away who haven't had time to figure things out. Nice one :)
Although, from the point of view of my character, of course - you should all be hunted down like the worthless dogs you are!
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Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.06.17 00:31:00 -
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Setec,
I'm still laughing over that "yes very much thank you" noob post. Your a credit to the pirate community and your craft. Keep up the good work.
If I'm approached by you I'll be sure to accept your invite! Of course with three computers you never know how many "friends" I have hanging around. LOL
I'm happy to see you play the role with so much professionalism.
/me tips his hat to Setec.
Calladen Nimitz
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Axelay
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Posted - 2003.06.17 00:42:00 -
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Setec
Have you ever managed to lock down a ship and force them to eject?
It's an idea I've been kicking around. Ship-jacking would be very profitable.
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m0o
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