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knobber Jobbler
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:07:00 -
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Hey ccp, don't take the fun out of fanfest and sanitize fanfest into a child safe, dull blizzcon like event. Your dev blog sounds like you're going to. It would be a shame if you turned it into those dull and dry events other publishers put on.
Remember who put you where you are ccp, it wasn't marketing directors or creepy rubber faced people at Sony. |
Largo Usagi
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:09:00 -
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I second this, I intend on going to fanfest next year, and if its not like the last 2 years I have watched on the stream I will be extremely disappointed. If the TOS/EULA apply to fanfest, then the cold dark future of space should have its feeling there too. |
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:12:00 -
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knobber Jobbler wrote:Hey ccp, don't take the fun out of fanfest and sanitize fanfest into a child safe, dull blizzcon like event. Your dev blog sounds like you're going to. It would be a shame if you turned it into those dull and dry events other publishers put on.
Remember who put you where you are ccp, it wasn't marketing directors or creepy rubber faced people at Sony. I suspect that will be the case now.
Stage managed by Sony unfortunately, PG rated.
Unlikely that they would unveil a "HTFU" again.
Put drunk people on stage then you pull trickery that they are supposed to represent CCP according to the EULA/TOS in the real world - huh?
Last night I posted on this forum and someone told me to kill myself. Where is their 30 day ban? |
Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness
Psychotic Tendencies.
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:12:00 -
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You guys are really reaching right now. So sad.
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:13:00 -
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Meh. |
knobber Jobbler
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:34:00 -
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Largo Usagi wrote:I second this, I intend on going to fanfest next year, and if its not like the last 2 years I have watched on the stream I will be extremely disappointed. If the TOS/EULA apply to fanfest, then the cold dark future of space should have its feeling there too.
Lets hope they only apply to the alliance panel.
The guys I know who've gone generally go by the principle that everyone is blue at Fanfest anyway. We shouldn't let one little mistake,or pressure from marketing types change what has always been a great event; and an event no other publisher does, because they're all sanitised and for children. |
Gindack
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:39:00 -
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CCP sold out to the corporations, so no more drunk quiz shows or CCP sponsored Pub crawls because alcohol is the devil |
Judge Solace
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:46:00 -
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Gindack wrote:CCP sold out to the corporations, so no more drunk quiz shows or CCP sponsored Pub crawls because alcohol is the devil
Seems fine to me. Out of all the people who attended how many where in violation.
Answer: 1 extreme minority case and now resolved. And not necessarily attributable as a cause.
Problem = imaginary. |
knobber Jobbler
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:49:00 -
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Only time will tell. Sony doesn't like to get negative press and the might see it as a potential source if there are Dust players and PS related press there next year.
Remember Dust players will be 90% prepubescent children. |
Ivana Twinkle
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 09:02:00 -
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I think we should have a drunken blob brawling outside next fanfest. |
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witchking42
Universal Freelance
CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
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Posted - 2012.03.29 09:07:00 -
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In a years time, all this will be a distant memory.
We'll all be moaning about whatever release comes after Inferno and why they changed missile names again!!
wk42 |
Florestan Bronstein
United Highsec Front
The 99 Percent
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Posted - 2012.03.29 09:07:00 -
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knobber Jobbler wrote:The guys I know who've gone generally go by the principle that everyone is blue at Fanfest anyway.
you happen to be German?
German: blue = drunk
English: blue = depressed/unhappy |
David Caldera
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.03.29 09:09:00 -
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No matter what happens to the fanfest now, there is only one really important truth everyone should remember:
The 'community' brought this upon themselves. |
Aethlyn
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Posted - 2012.03.29 09:12:00 -
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Honestly, wouldn't worry about this. What I could think of is some kind of timeshift for things like the alliance panel or probably more strict regulations on possible topics - or simply a policy set up in advance. Why would/should they change stuff like Q&A sessions and the like? There's absolutely no reason, even if you overreact. I could imagine of some general timeshift (so stuff kann be beeped for example) but other than that, I wouldn't expect any massive changes.
Looking for more thoughts? Read my blog or follow me on Twitter. |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.29 09:19:00 -
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knobber Jobbler wrote:Hey ccp, don't take the fun out of fanfest and sanitize fanfest into a child safe, dull blizzcon like event. Your dev blog sounds like you're going to. It would be a shame if you turned it into those dull and dry events other publishers put on.
Remember who put you where you are ccp, it wasn't marketing directors or creepy rubber faced people at Sony.
Mittani ruined fan fest.
What dont the goons destroy for everyone.
Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |
Sadayiel
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.03.29 09:19:00 -
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Ivana Twinkle wrote:I think we should have a drunken blob brawling outside next fanfest.
I'm in just let CCP bring nerf weapons so the Dust 514 kids can feel like the grown ups!  |
knobber Jobbler
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Posted - 2012.03.29 09:20:00 -
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Florestan Bronstein wrote:knobber Jobbler wrote:The guys I know who've gone generally go by the principle that everyone is blue at Fanfest anyway. you happen to be German? German: blue = drunk English: blue = depressed/unhappy
Blue as in standings :P |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.29 09:20:00 -
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Fanfest 2013,don't turn it into another debacle. |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2012.03.29 09:21:00 -
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Gindack wrote:CCP sold out to the corporations, so no more drunk quiz shows or CCP sponsored Pub crawls because alcohol is the devil
yes, thats is what happend. They met players with beer at the airport because they sold out.
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knobber Jobbler
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Posted - 2012.03.29 09:21:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:Fanfest 2013,don't turn it into another debacle.
It wasn't a debacle. It was successful but you know what major corporations are like with their knee jerk reactions and public image problems, especially Sony. Imagine if they stopped the parties and drinking next year. Half the fun is going out drinking and partying with people who make the game. It makes CCP what it is, not some asshat developer only bothered about one thing...profits.
David Caldera wrote:
The 'community' brought this upon themselves.
A minority of loud mouths on a forum did and a bunch of minor news sites on the same feed helped.
Forums make up a very small part of any online community; as little as 5%. Most EVE players have never even been here. I think they even put stats out about this a few years back. |
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
155
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Posted - 2012.03.29 09:47:00 -
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Well that is what we have to accept. CCP aren't a garage band anymore. They are growing and we should be happy about it. Ecstatic even. So if they have to clean up a bit,I say let them. You don't need to get stonedrunkoutta mind to have fun. There should be a happy medium. |
knobber Jobbler
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Posted - 2012.03.29 10:20:00 -
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Its great that they're successful. Just don't give up what made them unique and got them there in the first place. It would be a shame after all that happened over the winter for them to turn into a Sony corporate clone by this time next year.
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Merasa Tro
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.29 11:01:00 -
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I watched bits of the 'stream of doom' (no need to go into whatever was/wasn't said or meant thats for other threads) but wow it made for cringe worthy TV!
I was keen to go to a Fanfest, see the tech, meet the devs, watch some presentations... But having seen the behaviour there it has put me right off.
Eve is famous for being the complicated game, that has an older age group of players, when we meet in real life we should fly THAT flag, not the epeen swinging loud mouth behaviour I watched on the stream.
Certainly the 'corporate' face of something like fan fest should be the PG (12A maybe) rating event. CCP are moving with the big boys now, theyve got to show that face.
But when the cameras are turned off, and it's not the 'official day' then they can let their hair down and the appropriate people can come along and join in the 18+ fun.
We see the flames the big city *b*anker boys got with their hardcore partying, people thought it wasnt appropriate, same goes for sports people, politicians, etc. Ofcourse they all party hard and get up to mischief behind closed doors. But their PR machine has learnt and taught them to do that out-of-sight out-of-mind. The same NEEDS to apply to events such as fanfast. |
Cassy Dark
Lunar Dawn
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Posted - 2012.03.29 11:37:00 -
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Oh yes, Sony is very anti alcohol. They showed us that on friday night with all the free blue drinks they where handing out. |
Kimiko Tojima
Daughters of Hada
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Posted - 2012.03.29 11:40:00 -
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Surely CCP has to detail all their "mature changes" before I consider going to the next fanfest. Or just watch the lo-res feed.
I don't think that couch moralists and whiteknights will flock to a party on a rock in the middle of the North Atlantic... |
knobber Jobbler
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:05:00 -
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The alliance panel isn't indicative of the entire of fanfest. However look at it like this Michael Bolton did his presentation very much like TEST are in game. You might not like it but thats who they are. Maybe less booze next time.
Merasa Tro wrote:
Certainly the 'corporate' face of something like fan fest should be the PG (12A maybe) rating event. CCP are moving with the big boys now, theyve got to show that face.
Why? You want Fanfest to be Blizzcon? 12 year old's don't have disposable income or are the stable of EVE and never will be. EVE is an adult game and always will be. There is no need to tone it down to cater for children. Its not like any will be present anyway.
Cassy Dark wrote:Oh yes, Sony is very anti alcohol. They showed us that on friday night with all the free blue drinks they where handing out.
Sours don't count. :P
BTW I've worked for 3 Sony companies, I know exactly what they're like. They'll have a nice party but they'll sanitize everything else for the sake of public image. |
Cassy Dark
Lunar Dawn
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:46:00 -
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knobber Jobbler wrote:Cassy Dark wrote:Oh yes, Sony is very anti alcohol. They showed us that on friday night with all the free blue drinks they where handing out. Sours don't count. :P BTW I've worked for 3 Sony companies, I know exactly what they're like. They'll have a nice party but they'll sanitize everything else for the sake of public image.
There's nothing sour about vodka and blue curacao being topped up by a splash of Quafe.
But I do agree with you, turning Fanfest into blizzcon would be the worst thing that could happen to EVE. Hopefully a sober fanfest will create bigger protests than incarna.
All that's needed is heavier moderation of the player submitted content. And maybe kicking drunkards off the panels. |
knobber Jobbler
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Posted - 2012.03.29 13:15:00 -
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And that I 100% agree with! |
Josefius
13th Tribe of Kobol Expeditionary
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Posted - 2012.03.29 13:37:00 -
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knobber Jobbler wrote:Hey ccp, don't take the fun out of fanfest and sanitize fanfest into a child safe, dull blizzcon like event. Your dev blog sounds like you're going to. It would be a shame if you turned it into those dull and dry events other publishers put on.
Remember who put you where you are ccp, it wasn't marketing directors or creepy rubber faced people at Sony.
Amen brother, if I show up to a Fanfest run by Sony execs. I'm going to get on a plan right back to the States.
You have enemies? Good, that means you stood up for something, sometime in your life.
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Saint Lazarus
Spiorad ag fanaiocht
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Posted - 2012.03.29 13:44:00 -
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/signed
CCP remember how awesome every other Fanfest was, and how awesome THIS one was. One bad joke cant possibily be justification to change it. |
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