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C Genix
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Posted - 2012.03.29 10:27:00 -
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GM Homonoia wrote:Wukulo wrote:GM Homonoia wrote:DISCLAIMER: I will not comment in any way, shape or form on the recent events and decisions made in relation to those events. I will only clarify how customer support enforces our policies to provide clarity on the day to day application of those policies. I am going to explain this only once; and this really should have been clear to anyone bothering to apply some common sense to the EULA/ ToS. What happens inside the The Magic Circle is allowed as long as it abides by the rules of The Magic Circle (this is why you are allowed to hit someone in a boxing match, but not outside the ring). However, as soon as any action steps outside The Magic Circle and threatens harm to anyone in real life in any way shape or form, or when you incite others to do so (or when your in game actions are specifically geared towards that, joke or no joke), you break the EULA/ToS; even if you are only stating intent. Any GM will always take immediate action when this is done. And for those who think they can force an in game situation out of The Magic Circle to avoid in game consequences by threatening with suicide; the GM department has a strict policy of informing local and international law enforcement agencies of any suicide threats issued NO MATTER THE CONTEXT. In other words, do NOT joke about that. When a RL life is threatened we do not take any risks, ever. This doesn't resolve the situation where all of this takes place inside the magic circle. If player A ganks player B and player B says "Leave me alone or I'm going to kill myself" in local chat but player B is in a freight full of plexs. What do you think is going to happen here? I wouldn't be surprised to see "Great, go ahead we'll loot your plexs" and quite frankly... I wouldn't vilify anyone for that. How is player A supposed to understand that context while in the circle? If it can be joked about there, why does the circle even matter? You also just created a double standard by suggesting the idea of the magic circle as being in game but then enforcing the in game TOS and EULA at FANFEST which is clearly not in game. I think your explanation just made things fuzzier to be honest. As I said, i am not going to comment on recent events. That is outside my jurisdiction.
Oh CCP's HQ shafted you too hey
Also your 'magi circle' analogy is Blasphomos to my religion if you claim 'Gaurdian' of such 'circle' and death occcur incide (citation Royof CA) the blood is on your hands.. such is the nature of such a 'rite' |

C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
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Posted - 2012.03.29 10:39:00 -
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GM Homonoia wrote:Vashan Tar wrote: Also 5 days delay on "immediate" action? Glaciers move faster than that.
As I said, i am not going to comment on recent events. That is outside my jurisdiction. ALL my comments cannot be applied to these recent events. I am ONLY commenting on standard procedures.
Senior GM claims 'no Juristictian' so someone pulled string for CCP's 'pet player' it would appear |

C Genix
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Posted - 2012.03.29 10:47:00 -
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You choose not to address your blasphemy......
I'm not sure it 'Christinaises' well but you just said something along the lines
'I AM St Peter gaurdian of Heaven and we are happy that it is a Hell' |

C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:43:00 -
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GM Homonoia wrote: The Magic Circle.
SAY THAT ONCE MORE I DARE YOU
in your folly , incompetence and misunderstanfding of the concepts you misuse.
Your soul has spoken to me....
CCP is pure evil... there intent evil...they support evil ..... they promote evil
Why? the almighty Dollar
Pathetic |

C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:01:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Asking publicly for clarification is not a bad thing in light of the delicate natture of recent events.
Thank you GM Harmonia for offering that clarification.
Clarifying what exactly
That any other player would have been insta perma barred for such atrocities but as M gives Himlar the best reach rounds he wasnt? |

C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
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Posted - 2012.03.29 21:01:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:C Genix wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Asking publicly for clarification is not a bad thing in light of the delicate natture of recent events.
Thank you GM Harmonia for offering that clarification. Clarifying what exactly That any other player would have been insta perma barred for such atrocities but as M gives Himlar the best reach rounds he wasnt? For clarifying if any changes in CCP's interpretation of griefing and harassment have occurred after these events. I, for one, would hesitate slightly if I saw The Wiz in my sights with a fat bounty on his head after what has transpired... and in this game I shouldn't have to worry about all that. Now I can rest assured that if some tart squeeks in local "Don't shoot, all of my possessions are in here. If I lose it I'll quit this game and probably my life" (as believe it or not has happened to me before), I can feel free to pull the trigger anyway and burn the pity card playing fool out of my sky. However, now I will immediately follow up with a petition to CCP that includes the message to make sure that the individuals local authorities are alerrted. Partially to make sure that on the off chance he is somewhat serious he gets some help, but mostly so they can let him know that false claims of intent to commit suicide are not funny nor appropriate in any situation... and only serve to make it more difficult for those who are serious in their intent to be believed by others. I trust that is sufficient clarification for you.
Yes you clearly have a corrupt moral compass and believe the 'local authrities' are gonna stop anyone grabbing a 9mm from there desk and blowing skull and blood on the wall...
You ARE a pathetic disonohorauble specimin as I first thought Ranger (IMO)
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C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
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Posted - 2012.03.29 21:15:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:C Genix wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:C Genix wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Asking publicly for clarification is not a bad thing in light of the delicate natture of recent events.
Thank you GM Harmonia for offering that clarification. Clarifying what exactly That any other player would have been insta perma barred for such atrocities but as M gives Himlar the best reach rounds he wasnt? For clarifying if any changes in CCP's interpretation of griefing and harassment have occurred after these events. I, for one, would hesitate slightly if I saw The Wiz in my sights with a fat bounty on his head after what has transpired... and in this game I shouldn't have to worry about all that. Now I can rest assured that if some tart squeeks in local "Don't shoot, all of my possessions are in here. If I lose it I'll quit this game and probably my life" (as believe it or not has happened to me before), I can feel free to pull the trigger anyway and burn the pity card playing fool out of my sky. However, now I will immediately follow up with a petition to CCP that includes the message to make sure that the individuals local authorities are alerrted. Partially to make sure that on the off chance he is somewhat serious he gets some help, but mostly so they can let him know that false claims of intent to commit suicide are not funny nor appropriate in any situation... and only serve to make it more difficult for those who are serious in their intent to be believed by others. I trust that is sufficient clarification for you. Yes you clearly have a corrupt moral compass and believe the 'local authrities' are gonna stop anyone grabbing a 9mm from there desk and blowing skull and blood on the wall... You ARE a pathetic disonohorauble specimin as I first thought Ranger (IMO) Wanna know what I'd do? I'd shoot him enough to make him cry, to say that I am bullying him and that he will kill himself if I don't stop and when there is just a tiny sliver left before he goes 'boom'. I'll stop and repair his ship, only to shoot at him again and again. I'll even invite him to comms while I am dissecting his ships.
Riveting I'm sure.... thanks for sharing  |

C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
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Posted - 2012.03.29 21:36:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote: TLDR worthless silver tongued attempted justification of corrupt action

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C Genix
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Posted - 2012.03.29 21:42:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:C Genix wrote:Ranger 1 wrote: TLDR worthless silver tongued attempted justification of corrupt action  Perhaps you'd like to explain to the class what corrupt action you are referring to.
Perhaps you'd like to wear the dunces cap and stand in the corner if you don't get it yet.
Class Ranger has been a very naughty boy today..... |

C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
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Posted - 2012.03.29 21:55:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:C Genix wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:C Genix wrote:Ranger 1 wrote: TLDR worthless silver tongued attempted justification of corrupt action  Perhaps you'd like to explain to the class what corrupt action you are referring to. Perhaps you'd like to wear the dunces cap and stand in the corner if you don't get it yet. Class Ranger has been a very naughty boy today..... Yeah, I didn't think so.  Let me help. Was it the part where I don't stop game play the moment someone says "I'm depressed" in a convo/EVE mail/local? Was it the part where I notify CCP (as they request) of any mention of suicide so that the local authorities can be notifed to verify that the person is okay? Pick one... or both if you like. Or did I simply mess up plans for your future "Don't shoot me because..." Bio. 
No its the bit where you dumb as believes official CCP policy is a 'moral lifesyle'
And that the second you pop that ship the guy at the other keyboard could pull the trigger
Stop that with your fancy words and smart comebacks
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C Genix
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Posted - 2012.03.29 22:00:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Quote:And the fact that the second you pop that ship the guy at the other keyboard could pull the trigger Thank you for my next forum sig. 
Horse meet water feel free to get aquinted  |

C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
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Posted - 2012.03.29 22:02:00 -
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Montevius Williams wrote:This whole ordeal has let me know that a lot of people have no common sense
Very true
Apperently there addcition to intraweebs spaceships > anothers life
SAD |

C Genix
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Posted - 2012.03.29 22:24:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Also, I can kill you with my brain.
Lol |

C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
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Posted - 2012.03.29 22:27:00 -
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I handle it by leaving this 'Hell' in cyberspace, I'm just taking numbers and kicking A$$ on my way out the door |

C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
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Posted - 2012.03.29 22:34:00 -
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Yes Prof Alphane this alt plus 2 more will never be ressubed |

C Genix
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Posted - 2012.03.29 22:38:00 -
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Sorry Doc fury was the first to ask
I'll be forwading it once I can be bothered loging in and selling up |

C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
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Posted - 2012.03.30 05:11:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:C Genix wrote:Yes Prof Alphane this alt plus 2 more will never be ressubed Perhaps try WOT, I hear if somebody yells "If you win this match, I'm offing myself" everyone on the opposing team is required to freeze until the other team has won. Oh wait, that's YOUR fantasy.  Seriously Prof. I'm agreeing that this policy is actually the safest possible one for the person making the claim, yet doesn't make the game unplayable. I'm not sure what your objection is... and apparently neither are you.
You sicken me...
I now feel incredibly sorry for Jr that he have to put up with such a morally berefet male role model.
Continue to stubbronly refuse to see the point if you like.
As I said earlier
'You can lead a horse to water......' |

C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
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Posted - 2012.03.30 05:13:00 -
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Katarina Reid wrote:Ai Shun wrote:C Genix wrote:Very true
Apperently there addcition to intraweebs spaceships > anothers life
SAD Next time you run an Incursion, mine an asteroid, build a module, buy something off the market or do anything in EVE I hope somebody claims they are depressed and will commit suicide if you don't stop doing it. Then, perhaps, you will understand what some people are trying to say. How are you going to tell the difference between somebody ******* with you and somebody that really feels that way? How much should this be allowed to impact on your game? Edit: I honestly don't know how to handle this in-game. If somebody comes up to me with that type of line, what do I do? Do I carry on playing the game? Do I notify CCP? Do I just log off, unsub and play a different game? if its within the game rules keep going
Of couse , killing people over intraweebs spaceships fine, CCP said so |

C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
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Posted - 2012.03.30 05:34:00 -
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Rascal deJascal wrote:Ai Shun wrote:C Genix wrote:Very true
Apperently there addcition to intraweebs spaceships > anothers life
SAD Next time you run an Incursion, mine an asteroid, build a module, buy something off the market or do anything in EVE I hope somebody claims they are depressed and will commit suicide if you don't stop doing it. Then, perhaps, you will understand what some people are trying to say. How are you going to tell the difference between somebody ******* with you and somebody that really feels that way? How much should this be allowed to impact on your game? Edit: I honestly don't know how to handle this in-game. If somebody comes up to me with that type of line, what do I do? Do I carry on playing the game? Do I notify CCP? Do I just log off, unsub and play a different game? Where is the confusion? The GM post makes it clear that you should report the suicidal person the CCP and let them go from there. Keep your interaction 'in-game' and you are fine. If you do not utter a word to the person you will also give no chance for it to be out of game context.
No , that you seem to think CCP have given you 'permission' to do this in no way makes it right , moral, or just
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C Genix
Alphane Research Co-operative
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Posted - 2012.03.30 08:46:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:
So, if I have somebody down to hull after the third or fourth gank attempt and they claim they are suicidal I can carry on without a worry?
Depends wether you worry is one of general humanity or fear of infracting CCP's useless rules? |

C Genix
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Posted - 2012.03.30 10:03:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:C Genix wrote:Depends wether you worry is one of general humanity or fear of infracting CCP's useless rules? My worry is for the game I play and love to play - a game made for, of and because of player versus player conflicts. It is in all aspects of the game. Whilst I have sympathy for people with a real problem, I do not want to see it used as an excuse to avoid player versus player conflict. Nor is it my duty to act as a guidance Councillor or support person to people who do not have the mental fortitude to play a game that thrives on conflict. That sounds harsh. But face it - ultimately - somebody who has such a severe problem they will contemplate suicide because of a video game should not be playing a game where conflict drives the story line, the company tag-line is HTFU and everybody is out to get everyone else in one way or another. Well - apart from the ones that spin ships all day. After all, if I'm allergic to nuts I'm not going to go around licking Professor Alphanae, now am I? That would just be asking for it.
what have my testicle got to do with this  |

C Genix
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Posted - 2012.03.30 10:12:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:C Genix wrote:Ai Shun wrote:C Genix wrote:Depends wether you worry is one of general humanity or fear of infracting CCP's useless rules? My worry is for the game I play and love to play - a game made for, of and because of player versus player conflicts. It is in all aspects of the game. Whilst I have sympathy for people with a real problem, I do not want to see it used as an excuse to avoid player versus player conflict. Nor is it my duty to act as a guidance Councillor or support person to people who do not have the mental fortitude to play a game that thrives on conflict. That sounds harsh. But face it - ultimately - somebody who has such a severe problem they will contemplate suicide because of a video game should not be playing a game where conflict drives the story line, the company tag-line is HTFU and everybody is out to get everyone else in one way or another. Well - apart from the ones that spin ships all day. After all, if I'm allergic to nuts I'm not going to go around licking Professor Alphanae, now am I? That would just be asking for it. what have my testicle got to do with this  Nothing. Why would you even mention them?
Sorry my bad misread your last sentence, thought you wanted to lick my .... Oh well you get the idea sorry |

C Genix
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Posted - 2012.03.30 11:29:00 -
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While this is true the actions of these players and CCP for supporting such infracts several RL laws in many diffrent counties.
Regardless that goons are the scum of the Earth
CCP are now complicite in illegal activity |
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