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Anax Walsinghami
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.09.29 15:07:00 -
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When I posted this thread, my one hope was that CCP would finally respond to the lag issues surrounding large fleet engagements. That they did is a credit to them. Hopefully there will now be more transparency in dealing with the lag issue so we the player base can see how it will be handled.
Will there be a report forth-coming after you analyze the node death data as to how you will be implementing changes? Hopefully in the next few weeks and not six months from now. |

O Thief
The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.09.29 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Anax Walsinghami
Originally by: O Thief
I know that a lack of lag generally means the NC losing since its the sole mechanism you've relied upon to 'win' fights for the past few years, but really... get over yourself.
Surely you jest. But then what battles have you been in lately other than FW.
Might I suggest you check your corp ticker before calling into question anyone elses PvP ability or experience 
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Anax Walsinghami
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.09.29 15:30:00 -
[183]
Edited by: Anax Walsinghami on 29/09/2008 15:30:29
Originally by: O Thief
Originally by: Anax Walsinghami
Originally by: O Thief
I know that a lack of lag generally means the NC losing since its the sole mechanism you've relied upon to 'win' fights for the past few years, but really... get over yourself.
Surely you jest. But then what battles have you been in lately other than FW.
Might I suggest you check your corp ticker before calling into question anyone elses PvP ability or experience 
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Andrommeda
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.29 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Anax Walsinghami Edited by: Anax Walsinghami on 29/09/2008 15:30:29
Originally by: O Thief
Originally by: Anax Walsinghami
Originally by: O Thief
I know that a lack of lag generally means the NC losing since its the sole mechanism you've relied upon to 'win' fights for the past few years, but really... get over yourself.
Surely you jest. But then what battles have you been in lately other than FW.
Might I suggest you check your corp ticker before calling into question anyone elses PvP ability or experience 
Touche 
indeed _________________
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Anax Walsinghami
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.09.29 16:01:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Andrommeda
Originally by: Anax Walsinghami Edited by: Anax Walsinghami on 29/09/2008 15:30:29
Originally by: O Thief
Originally by: Anax Walsinghami
Originally by: O Thief
I know that a lack of lag generally means the NC losing since its the sole mechanism you've relied upon to 'win' fights for the past few years, but really... get over yourself.
Surely you jest. But then what battles have you been in lately other than FW.
Might I suggest you check your corp ticker before calling into question anyone elses PvP ability or experience 
Touche 
indeed
To be clear I was not calling into question O Thiefs or his corps pvp experience. I was calling into question his knowledge that NC uses lag for our benefit. Last time I checked it was BoB that seems to understand and use lag to their benefit. As to Tgrads, we have not been involved in FW but we do our share of fielding pilots into NC fleets.
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O Thief
The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.09.29 16:21:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Anax Walsinghami
To be clear I was not calling into question O Thiefs or his corps pvp experience. I was calling into question his knowledge that NC uses lag for our benefit. Last time I checked it was BoB that seems to understand and use lag to their benefit. As to Tgrads, we have not been involved in FW but we do our share of fielding pilots into NC fleets.
You must be new to the NC.
By the way, you might want to brush up on your FW game mechanics knowledge. Alliances can't participate.
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Morris Falter
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.09.29 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Anax Walsinghami
Last time I checked it was BoB that seems to understand and use lag to their benefit.
In honesty, if lag wins a fight, its pretty crappy all round. So regardless of "wowz we did winnzor ur outpostz rololo" tarzanning, still the fight was won by the fact that either you or your enemy couldn't do their best, which is hardly an ideal cause for champagne and caviar at the club house.
Important note - this is entirely, entirely different to strategy / tactics / planning / traps.
Short term, the 'winner' gets some more stuff, but long term less fun as people get ****ed off and leave, less interesting pew pew, more zombie power blocs.. more 30 minute activation lag.. etc etc.
Or am I totally misreading this?
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Richard Angevian
The Crusaders.
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Posted - 2008.09.29 16:31:00 -
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Nice that you tested a new node setup, but the obvious point needs to be brought up:
This is yet another example of BOB getting special treatment above and beyond what "normal" alliances (ie one that doesn't have half the dev team playing for). I've been in many huge battles, battles a lot larger than MSH, and not only has CCP done jack about it during the fight, they never have reimbursed ONE loss of mine that happened due to node issues.
If you are going to step in and boost a node for one particular battle, IMHO you are obligated to do so for EVERY battle. The live environment should never be used for testing, especially if it's done in a way as to give one in game entity (BOB) an advantage that you don't give everyone else.
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Straight Chillen
Gallente Solar Wind
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Posted - 2008.09.29 16:49:00 -
[189]
MAX is the dev's pet project to test MAXimum node Load? C/d? |

O Thief
The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.09.29 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Richard Angevian Nice that you tested a new node setup, but the obvious point needs to be brought up:
This is yet another example of BOB getting special treatment above and beyond what "normal" alliances (ie one that doesn't have half the dev team playing for). I've been in many huge battles, battles a lot larger than MSH, and not only has CCP done jack about it during the fight, they never have reimbursed ONE loss of mine that happened due to node issues.
If you are going to step in and boost a node for one particular battle, IMHO you are obligated to do so for EVERY battle. The live environment should never be used for testing, especially if it's done in a way as to give one in game entity (BOB) an advantage that you don't give everyone else.
If the node reinforcement wasn't requested by a member of the NC, you might have a point.
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Anax Walsinghami
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.09.29 18:12:00 -
[191]
Originally by: O Thief
Originally by: Richard Angevian Nice that you tested a new node setup, but the obvious point needs to be brought up:
This is yet another example of BOB getting special treatment above and beyond what "normal" alliances (ie one that doesn't have half the dev team playing for). I've been in many huge battles, battles a lot larger than MSH, and not only has CCP done jack about it during the fight, they never have reimbursed ONE loss of mine that happened due to node issues.
If you are going to step in and boost a node for one particular battle, IMHO you are obligated to do so for EVERY battle. The live environment should never be used for testing, especially if it's done in a way as to give one in game entity (BOB) an advantage that you don't give everyone else.
If the node reinforcement wasn't requested by a member of the NC, you might have a point.
By this time the battle had shifted from MSHD to MO where NC was successfully preventing GBC from entering MO from Taisy. At this point the node crashed once again (# 6 or 7 I had lost count by then). Now it was at this point that CCP brought on the node repair. The funny part is that the repair now allowed BoB to enter MO in force while NC was not able to load back into game in enough time to do anything to prevent the incursion. This means that BoB was able to load AND enter MO while NC could not even load fast enough to do anything. I'll leave the more programing adept to answer why. At this point after 6 node crashes prior, I don't know who requested what.
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Waagaa Ktlehr
Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.29 18:23:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Anax Walsinghami
Originally by: O Thief
Originally by: Richard Angevian Nice that you tested a new node setup, but the obvious point needs to be brought up:
This is yet another example of BOB getting special treatment above and beyond what "normal" alliances (ie one that doesn't have half the dev team playing for). I've been in many huge battles, battles a lot larger than MSH, and not only has CCP done jack about it during the fight, they never have reimbursed ONE loss of mine that happened due to node issues.
If you are going to step in and boost a node for one particular battle, IMHO you are obligated to do so for EVERY battle. The live environment should never be used for testing, especially if it's done in a way as to give one in game entity (BOB) an advantage that you don't give everyone else.
If the node reinforcement wasn't requested by a member of the NC, you might have a point.
By this time the battle had shifted from MSHD to MO where NC was successfully preventing GBC from entering MO from Taisy. At this point the node crashed once again (# 6 or 7 I had lost count by then). Now it was at this point that CCP brought on the node repair. The funny part is that the repair now allowed BoB to enter MO in force while NC was not able to load back into game in enough time to do anything to prevent the incursion. This means that BoB was able to load AND enter MO while NC could not even load fast enough to do anything. I'll leave the more programing adept to answer why. At this point after 6 node crashes prior, I don't know who requested what.
You lost at least half your BS fleet with only killing one GBC BS before the node died and you're trying to tell us that you were winning that battle?
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Anax Walsinghami
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.09.29 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr
You lost at least half your BS fleet with only killing one GBC BS before the node died and you're trying to tell us that you were winning that battle?
The ignorance of the Northern monkeys gets better by the day.
Gee I stopped counting your losses on our KB at over 80. Perhaps Sir, you should post your own losses so you can get a better count.
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SK Rooster
Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.09.29 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Anax Walsinghami
Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr
You lost at least half your BS fleet with only killing one GBC BS before the node died and you're trying to tell us that you were winning that battle?
The ignorance of the Northern monkeys gets better by the day.
Gee I stopped counting your losses on our KB at over 80. Perhaps Sir, you should post your own losses so you can get a better count.
you should stop posting really, its embarrassing for your alliance
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Nobues
Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.09.29 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: SK Rooster
Originally by: Anax Walsinghami
Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr
You lost at least half your BS fleet with only killing one GBC BS before the node died and you're trying to tell us that you were winning that battle?
The ignorance of the Northern monkeys gets better by the day.
Gee I stopped counting your losses on our KB at over 80. Perhaps Sir, you should post your own losses so you can get a better count.
you should stop posting really, its embarrassing for your alliance
This coming from a guy who is too scared to post using his.. Webhosting, teamspeak and Killboard for you, your corp, and your Alliance Click me for more info |

O Thief
The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.09.29 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Anax Walsinghami
Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr
You lost at least half your BS fleet with only killing one GBC BS before the node died and you're trying to tell us that you were winning that battle?
The ignorance of the Northern monkeys gets better by the day.
Gee I stopped counting your losses on our KB at over 80. Perhaps Sir, you should post your own losses so you can get a better count.
www.killboard.net is your friend
of course, you only lost the fights because of the node reinforcement... nothing to do with BoB being better than you... no, that can't be it... everyone knows that in lag-free fights on reinforced nodes only the devspoilters win and good FC'ing can't possibly work
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Anax Walsinghami
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.09.29 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: SK Rooster
Originally by: Anax Walsinghami
Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr
You lost at least half your BS fleet with only killing one GBC BS before the node died and you're trying to tell us that you were winning that battle?
The ignorance of the Northern monkeys gets better by the day.
Gee I stopped counting your losses on our KB at over 80. Perhaps Sir, you should post your own losses so you can get a better count.
you should stop posting really, its embarrassing for your alliance
Whats embarrassing is someone without a clue trying to attention seek here. Oh wait, you are looking for a new corp to join and you hope to suck up to a BoB corp. Amirite?
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O Thief
The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.09.29 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Anax Walsinghami
Originally by: SK Rooster
Originally by: Anax Walsinghami
Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr
You lost at least half your BS fleet with only killing one GBC BS before the node died and you're trying to tell us that you were winning that battle?
The ignorance of the Northern monkeys gets better by the day.
Gee I stopped counting your losses on our KB at over 80. Perhaps Sir, you should post your own losses so you can get a better count.
you should stop posting really, its embarrassing for your alliance
Whats embarrassing is someone without a clue trying to attention seek here. Oh wait, you are looking for a new corp to join and you hope to suck up to a BoB corp. Amirite?
Are you saying waagaa doenst have a clue? You know he FC's, right? 
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Anax Walsinghami
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.09.29 19:36:00 -
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Edited by: Anax Walsinghami on 29/09/2008 19:43:27 Edited by: Anax Walsinghami on 29/09/2008 19:40:01 Edited by: Anax Walsinghami on 29/09/2008 19:38:59
Then why did he post with SK Rooster?
Oh I see....I was responding to Rooster in the quote. As to the other guy saying he lost 1 BS I again say our kb show at least 80 GBC kills
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slip66
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.29 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Richard Angevian Nice that you tested a new node setup, but the obvious point needs to be brought up:
This is yet another example of BOB getting special treatment above and beyond what "normal" alliances (ie one that doesn't have half the dev team playing for). I've been in many huge battles, battles a lot larger than MSH, and not only has CCP done jack about it during the fight, they never have reimbursed ONE loss of mine that happened due to node issues.
If you are going to step in and boost a node for one particular battle, IMHO you are obligated to do so for EVERY battle. The live environment should never be used for testing, especially if it's done in a way as to give one in game entity (BOB) an advantage that you don't give everyone else.
lol,
Both NC & BOB got "special" treatment by the devs trying repair a server problem. This was after 6-8 node crashes suffered by both sides.
Stop trolling...
NC AND bob had the same hardware & software advantages and disadavatnages after they implentment the fix.
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xDOTHEDEWx
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.09.30 14:26:00 -
[201]
I find it ironic that you put 1000+ people in the same system and it crashes and everyone wants to ***** aboutą.the underlying factor that most are forgetting is that it was playable up until the system crashed. Normal fleet fights between 500 & 600 should be do able now! Sorry NC you have to drop a fewą.but hey when CCP put the restrictions on system numbers it will be done automatically for ya!!!  |
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