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Anax Walsinghami The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:10:00 - [1] Edited by: Anax Walsinghami on 27/09/2008 16:11:59 Edited by: Anax Walsinghami on 27/09/2008 16:10:47 Here yeah go CCP. Instead of telling us what you are doing to fix the problem, you make time to close a thread.
Djana Libra Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:10:00 - [2] still valid topic <SIG> I bought the wife a toy Deimos to have fun with while i play eve! </SIG>
Slipknot Korn Minmatar Decadence. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:11:00 - [3] Entering game as... for like 20 minutes now... This is a sig.
Moloc's Gallente The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:12:00 - [4] This is me ranting in this thread as well since the other one got locked. CCP, you rule!
DogTyred Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:12:00 - [5] Please do not discuss moderation on the forums. Navigator
speedek Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:12:00 - [6] Originally by: Slipknot Korn Entering game as... for like 20 minutes now... hah I already can see space background!
MissBlack	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:13:00 - [7] Originally by: speedek Originally by: Slipknot Korn Entering game as... for like 20 minutes now... hah I already can see space background! bob haXoR!
BiggestT Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:13:00 - [8] Well we may aswell get dual threads running REROUTE JITA SERVER WEGHTING TO MSHD REGION! I mean damn whats more important, making sure the carebears can play or allowing an epic battle? discalimer: I know nothing about programming and am excused of all ignorance Awesome EVE history
Anax Walsinghami The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:14:00 - [9] I see CCP is doing something. They closed the gates into MSHD and closed the undock ramps
Djana Libra Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:14:00 - [10] Originally by: DogTyred Please do not discuss moderation on the forums. Navigator haha that wasnt actually a discussion lol mearly a statement <SIG> I bought the wife a toy Deimos to have fun with while i play eve! </SIG>
Jonas Vinthyn Cassandra's Light Caeruleum Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:14:00 - [11] Allegedly I'm "Currently Warping" although I'm not moving and haven't been for 10 some minutes. On the plus side I was almost destroyed before the node crash and came back to a fully repaired ship. Thanks CCP! Free Repairs = Awesome. -Jonas My POS - POS Fitting and Fuel Calc Stats!
JuGGeR Phantom Squad Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:14:00 - [12] keep them hamsters in the cage .... where can i send speed drugs to get more performance outta this ? Phantomsquad
Xavieer Naidoo Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:14:00 - [13] 14.95 a month ?
Rehmes Minmatar RillaCorp Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:14:00 - [14] In other news i just baked some cookies, took the dog out for a walk, eradicated world hunger, and found a cure of AIDS. ..still.....loading...... *Where am I?*
Warrio Southern Cross Incorporated Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:15:00 - [15] Op has a corp and alliance ticker, I approve. sXe
Hungo Minmatar Pilots Of Honour Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:16:00 - [16] Been trying to loginf or 20 minutes now Please resize signature to the mamimum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes. Navigator
Angry Cyno	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:17:00 - [17] snip Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. Additionally, using an Alt Corp to post is also not permitted-Navigator([email protected])
Nooto Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:17:00 - [18] as said uselessI/O 4tw. ur powerhamsters are bugged to hell BEWARE!!! All text above this sig represents my personal opinion. This in no way reflects the views of my corporation or alliance
Xavieer Naidoo Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:17:00 - [19] Originally by: Angry Cyno snip Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. Additionally, using an Alt Corp to post is also not permitted-Navigator([email protected]) Feel free to kiss my ship's bottom Mr Alt.
Djana Libra Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:18:00 - [20] Originally by: Xavieer Naidoo Originally by: Angry Cyno snip Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. Additionally, using an Alt Corp to post is also not permitted-Navigator([email protected]) Feel free to kiss my ship's bottom Mr Alt. is it a sexy ship? <SIG> I bought the wife a toy Deimos to have fun with while i play eve! </SIG>
Angry Cyno	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:18:00 - [21] snip Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. Additionally, using an Alt Corp to post is also not permitted-Navigator([email protected])
Darth Sithus Amarr Beltinci UnderGround	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:20:00 - [22] ... and here we go again :)
Philip Jones Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:20:00 - [23] Just as I loaded - node crahes again
Djana Libra Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:20:00 - [24] all hail ccp it crashed again <SIG> I bought the wife a toy Deimos to have fun with while i play eve! </SIG>
Anax Walsinghami The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:21:00 - [25] Well got booted and not even logged in yet. Go CCP go
Jumpgate Jack Northern Exposure	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:21:00 - [26] This game is like a politician, promises so much, delivers so little. Quick, think of a new reason to close the thread! fake edit: second node crash .
Nooto Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:21:00 - [27] yeah message not found and d/c way to goo ccp hamsters on uselessI/O highway BEWARE!!! All text above this sig represents my personal opinion. This in no way reflects the views of my corporation or alliance
Xavieer Naidoo Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:21:00 - [28] Originally by: Djana Libra is it a sexy ship? Considering it's a thorax hull, which we all know resembles a male reproductive organ, we might say it's a sexy ship
Rehmes Minmatar RillaCorp Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:22:00 - [29] Edited by: Rehmes on 27/09/2008 16:25:29 Edited by: Rehmes on 27/09/2008 16:24:25 Lol another crash as i was login in May as well continue the battle here, ill call primary: Xavieer Naidoo is primary. Philip Jones is secondary. *Where am I?*
slap stick	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:22:00 - [30] Im an alt in an npc corp and i demand this thread closed
Rebilier Gallente Fires of Obliteration	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:22:00 - [31] NC whining about Lag, lol irony
Warrio Southern Cross Incorporated Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:22:00 - [32] Ganked! sXe
Djana Libra Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:23:00 - [33] Originally by: Xavieer Naidoo Originally by: Djana Libra is it a sexy ship? Considering it's a thorax hull, which we all know resembles a male reproductive organ, we might say it's a sexy ship I consider female reprodictive organs to be a hell lot sexier <SIG> I bought the wife a toy Deimos to have fun with while i play eve! </SIG>
BrainFugger Minmatar The Galactic Empire Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:23:00 - [34] let me play eve ccp
Niraco79 Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:23:00 - [35] Originally by: Anax Walsinghami Well got booted and not even logged in yet. Go CCP go that was because 30 people managed to load the damn gate and dared to shot eachother like 3 bob and 4 NC shot....huge stress on server due to this outrageous move from those players
The FC Gallente Perfect Eternal Transports Limited	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:26:00 - [36] We dont want much - we only want to pewpew .... not wait for pay..... or can we please have a waiting music? or at least a ccp frig in system to see: hey, your looking at our situation....
Rehmes Minmatar RillaCorp Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:27:00 - [37] Originally by: Niraco79 Originally by: Anax Walsinghami Well got booted and not even logged in yet. Go CCP go that was because 30 people managed to load the damn gate and dared to shot eachother like 3 bob and 4 NC shot....huge stress on server due to this outrageous move from those players How very inconsiderate of you to start w/o the rest of us *Where am I?*
Djana Libra Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:27:00 - [38] WTB: 10K non alcoholist hamsters to boost the node <SIG> I bought the wife a toy Deimos to have fun with while i play eve! </SIG>
Neermark JotunHeim Hird X13 Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:28:00 - [39] I think there should be muzak on the entering system screen, or some other nice waiting tunes... Seems like we are going to spend the whole evening there
patteSatan Celtic industries	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:28:00 - [40] To get more hamsters, you have to join BoB. ...you women are creepy, but amusing as hell. 404 - Sense of humour not found. <===hUssmann VETO. made that
Tiggi Wrath Decadence. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:30:00 - [41] this is just disappointing ccp.
Skebet Evolution	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:31:00 - [42] Originally by: BiggestT REROUTE JITA SERVER WEGHTING TO MSHD REGION! I mean damn whats more important, making sure the carebears can play or allowing an epic battle? I think you know the answer to that. See, most of those new, pve-oriented players CCP is trying to attract are going to see Jita long before they see a big fleet battle. CCP: You are asking for trouble. Really. People who have given you the benefit of the doubt may stop doing so soon.
Rehmes Minmatar RillaCorp Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:35:00 - [43] Originally by: patteSatan To get more hamsters, you have to join BoB. Somehow i dont think you thought that through. *Where am I?*
Djana Libra Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:36:00 - [44] AGAIN! <SIG> I bought the wife a toy Deimos to have fun with while i play eve! </SIG>
Levitikon Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:37:00 - [45] third node crash.
Niraco79 Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:38:00 - [46] Originally by: Rehmes Originally by: patteSatan To get more hamsters, you have to join BoB. Somehow i dont think you thought that through. he is just a bitter puppy. on other note third crash... no shooting was reported...only paying id**ts who wanna log in
tomd741 Amarr Instigators Incorperated Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:38:00 - [47] 3rd
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:39:00 - [48] Point on Intensity Green! Cyno up! - -
Bashiri Burning Sky Labs	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:41:00 - [49] Now i'm really happy i left 0.0 wars.
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:42:00 - [50] how many more node crashes are expected carebears are flying pinyatas my killboard stats
Garpur59 Gallente Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:44:00 - [51] Black screen looks sexy.... c/d.
herce Caldari Gladiators of Rage Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:45:00 - [52] I see space !!!
Morrow Borric Morrow Prime Industries Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:45:00 - [53] Originally by: Garpur59 Black screen looks sexy.... c/d. D 3rd times the charm....
Rehmes Minmatar RillaCorp Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:45:00 - [54] Originally by: Armoured C how many more node crashes are expected Honestly until the system population dies down we could be looking at some 10 crashes lol... *Where am I?*
Hungo Minmatar Pilots Of Honour Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:45:00 - [55] So, 43 minutes so far, black screen, cant login, CCP u suck Please resize signature to the mamimum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes. Navigator
Djana Libra Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:45:00 - [56] please take down all empire systems and support this node <SIG> I bought the wife a toy Deimos to have fun with while i play eve! </SIG>
DeviLee Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:46:00 - [57] CCP, you need to do somethink about that .. My words are my own and do not represent the views of my corp.
Grid01 Tin Foil Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:47:00 - [58] more power
Revenaught	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:47:00 - [59] Going for a new crashes/hour record... yay
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:47:00 - [60] jita is fixed appreantly now what about the rest of eve carebears are flying pinyatas my killboard stats
Nova Soldier ROMANIA Renegades STYX.	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:48:00 - [61] i'm beginning to miss jita at least there where no node crashes.
Burlock Ironfist RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:48:00 - [62] PvP ... destroying eve, one node at a time
BiggestT Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:48:00 - [63] Well seeing were all here, any1 care of a sit rep? e.g. nc/gbc numbers..just for something interesting to read x) Awesome EVE history
patteSatan Celtic industries	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:49:00 - [64] Originally by: Niraco79 Originally by: Rehmes Originally by: patteSatan To get more hamsters, you have to join BoB. Somehow i dont think you thought that through. he is just a bitter puppy. on other note third crash... no shooting was reported...only paying id**ts who wanna log in Hmm, I'm noones puppy, but you curl up and die by orders, so who's a puppy again? ...you women are creepy, but amusing as hell. 404 - Sense of humour not found. <===hUssmann VETO. made that
Kay Han Caldari The Circle STYX.	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:49:00 - [65] Originally by: BiggestT Well seeing were all here, any1 care of a sit rep? e.g. nc/gbc numbers..just for something interesting to read x) dont care about numbers. Local was at 550 or so when it crashed the first time. Originally by: CCP Atropos Personally I think Amarr ships should consume slaves in a similar way that other ships consume ammunition.
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:50:00 - [66] Originally by: BiggestT Well seeing were all here, any1 care of a sit rep? e.g. nc/gbc numbers..just for something interesting to read x) alot vs alot =) carebears are flying pinyatas my killboard stats
BiggestT Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:51:00 - [67] Originally by: Kay Han Originally by: BiggestT Well seeing were all here, any1 care of a sit rep? e.g. nc/gbc numbers..just for something interesting to read x) dont care about numbers. Local was at 550 or so when it crashed the first time. the gate finnaly gave up..I think we should hold a funeral Awesome EVE history
Moloc's Gallente The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:51:00 - [68] Edited by: Moloc''s on 27/09/2008 16:52:32 apparently local has like 350 players atm, half red half blue, or something like that. On a sidenote, 4th crash, yay \o/
Morrow Borric Morrow Prime Industries Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:52:00 - [69] 4 \0/
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:52:00 - [70] node crash 4 =( carebears are flying pinyatas my killboard stats
Jonas Vinthyn Cassandra's Light Caeruleum Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:52:00 - [71] Node crash #4. My POS - POS Fitting and Fuel Calc Stats!
Djana Libra Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:52:00 - [72] 4!!!!!!!! <SIG> I bought the wife a toy Deimos to have fun with while i play eve! </SIG>
Hungo Minmatar Pilots Of Honour Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:52:00 - [73] AGAIN
BiggestT Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:53:00 - [74] 4th drop LETS GO FOR TE RECORD!! -still got a way to go hehe) Awesome EVE history
Niraco79 Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:53:00 - [75] Originally by: patteSatan Hmm, I'm noones puppy, but you curl up and die by orders, so who's a puppy again? But you are my puppy... i made you bitter someday and now you cry on forums even you are not involved on other note 4`th crash now
Nooto Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:53:00 - [76] there we go again crash no. 4 BEWARE!!! All text above this sig represents my personal opinion. This in no way reflects the views of my corporation or alliance
DeviLee Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:53:00 - [77] And record is ? My words are my own and do not represent the views of my corp.
Nooto Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:54:00 - [78] 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BEWARE!!! All text above this sig represents my personal opinion. This in no way reflects the views of my corporation or alliance
Rehmes Minmatar RillaCorp Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:54:00 - [79] 5th! *Where am I?*
Varrakk Phantom Squad Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:55:00 - [80] Went to the store bought some milk and chips. Came back and still entering game
Djana Libra Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:55:00 - [81] `that was 5 so 5 to go <SIG> I bought the wife a toy Deimos to have fun with while i play eve! </SIG>
FLYTOP	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:55:00 - [82] so ccp shuld i still pay a game what eacth time i want to get fun or is alot of laag or the server crash or i have to w8 1 hour for log in!!! come on ccp wake up!!!!is tiome for!!!!!
Tao Han Ginnungagaps Rymdfarargille Blade.	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:56:00 - [83] Epic fight Proof!
Rehmes Minmatar RillaCorp Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:59:00 - [84] Originally by: CCP Mindstar Hey all, We have sent an army of hamsters marching on this system now. Good luck and safe flying! TY!!!!!!!!!!! *Where am I?*
Nooto Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.27 16:59:00 - [85] MOAR HAMSTERZ NAOW BRING OUT THE ELITE T3 HAMSTERZ BEWARE!!! All text above this sig represents my personal opinion. This in no way reflects the views of my corporation or alliance
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:00:00 - [86] Originally by: CCP Mindstar Hey all, Good luck and safe flying! we would try if we can get in carebears are flying pinyatas my killboard stats
Levitikon Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:00:00 - [87] Doh, CCP should set the player limit to 300 and node reset every 20 minutes. That should solve it.
Pattonator Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:00:00 - [88] Maybe u need to upgrade the hamsters to something larger like guinea pigs.
BiggestT Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:00:00 - [89] Originally by: Nooto MOAR HAMSTERZ NAOW BRING OUT THE ELITE T3 HAMSTERZ And the stacklesspythonio pet 70yo boa Awesome EVE history
Haven Lexus Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:01:00 - [90] Anyone want a nice NC / BOB hangman tourny to determine the fate of MSHD? First word has four letters, second is a proper name abbrievation w/ three letters...
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:01:00 - [91] bring on the jovian hamsters carebears are flying pinyatas my killboard stats
touchvill Method of Destruction Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:02:00 - [92] Originally by: Anax Walsinghami Originally by: Burlock Ironfist PvP ... destroying eve, one node at a time Doesn't CCP tout Eve as a PVP game? Wants us to move out from High Sec and get into null space? What's wrong with this picture? Whats wrong? 300 man+ gangs each side. ----------
Niraco79 Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:02:00 - [93] unfortunately the hamsters are fat and slow
Rehmes Minmatar RillaCorp Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:05:00 - [94] Originally by: Niraco79 unfortunately the hamsters are fat and slow Which is why i told you that feeding them more pellets was a bad idea....... *Where am I?*
Hungo Minmatar Pilots Of Honour Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:05:00 - [95] Originally by: CCP Mindstar Hey all, We have sent an army of hamsters marching on this system now. Good luck and safe flying! yes u will be reiving a petition from me about my ship thx, dead when not logged in, fantastic :0
BiggestT Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:07:00 - [96] Edited by: BiggestT on 27/09/2008 17:07:24 Originally by: Hungo Originally by: CCP Mindstar Hey all, We have sent an army of hamsters marching on this system now. Good luck and safe flying! yes u will be reiving a petition from me about my ship thx, dead when not logged in, fantastic :0 they surely cant blaim OUR isp's this time edit: no wait, ze logzs, ze'd show nothing Awesome EVE history
Tellenta Gallente Invicta.	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:07:00 - [97] so how many casualties to gate rats this time round?
Warrio Southern Cross Incorporated Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:09:00 - [98] Originally by: Tellenta so how many casualties to gate rats this time round? I hear most of the local Serpentis population is still waiting to log in. sXe
ASIV TRE Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:10:00 - [99] Edited by: ASIV TRE on 27/09/2008 17:11:35 I'm no where near the north and keep getting kicked out along with others reporting they can't login to system seriously CCP
BiggestT Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:13:00 - [100] -Yawn- Who thought that black login screen could be such a sleep inducer.. More..energy.. Awesome EVE history
Orree Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:13:00 - [101] This is just sad....lol. Had about 2 hours to play today and have spent 90% of it at black loading screen. "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
Jonas Vinthyn Cassandra's Light Caeruleum Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:15:00 - [102] Originally by: Orree This is just sad....lol. Had about 2 hours to play today and have spent 90% of it at black loading screen. Ditto...think I'm dead. only way I know that is I got a evemail saying so but my ship still has HP and is flying around. My POS - POS Fitting and Fuel Calc Stats!
LoveKebab coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:16:00 - [103] gooooooooooooo TRI!
Kirana Si House of Lubrication	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:19:00 - [104] Maybe the only real solution for this mess would be that you all wardec each other and then move to Jita to fight it out
Ventaly Evil ALT Corp Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:19:00 - [105] Best part is hearing the fun while you are waiting to enter game...... /me kicks CCP's new hamsters in the junk
Care Bearasoid	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:19:00 - [106] snip Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. Additionally, using an Alt Corp to post is also not permitted-Navigator([email protected])
BiggestT Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:20:00 - [107] Originally by: Jonas Vinthyn Originally by: Orree This is just sad....lol. Had about 2 hours to play today and have spent 90% of it at black loading screen. Ditto...think I'm dead. only way I know that is I got a evemail saying so but my ship still has HP and is flying around. At least you got to see your ship, im betting im dead right now (still black login) Awesome EVE history
BiggestT Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:21:00 - [108] Originally by: Care Bearasoid snip Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. Additionally, using an Alt Corp to post is also not permitted-Navigator([email protected]) put it into the "CCP hamster fund" Awesome EVE history
Moloc's Gallente The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:25:00 - [109] Alright, been tryning to get into mshd for 2 hours, and apparently for the guys that managed to log into the game, the fight at the gate is dominated by bobbits. Its so _not_ frustrating to listen to while trying to log in. /me shrugs and fires up a movie.
Danny Centurai hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:25:00 - [110] Edited by: Danny Centurai on 27/09/2008 17:25:39 To quote a wise man: 'She canny take any more captain.' I wait for the day when Coalitions can have a 400 v 400 day battle and the battle isn't about who can log back in fastest. Then, and only then, EVE is a complete success.
Orree Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:26:00 - [111] Originally by: Ventaly Best part is hearing the fun while you are waiting to enter game...... /me kicks CCP's new hamsters in the junk Yeah...been listening to that for the past 30 minutes. :facepalm: weird thign was loading after the first crash and warping back to 900 gate and firing on you guys..watching my ammo go down, seeing the damage messages but no damage registering on the targeted icons...lol. I just warped out at that point. "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
Wap Pie Caldari Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:30:00 - [112] I'd say we all petition a cash reimbursement, I am paying for a game while after 2 hours i still can't login. Isn't this like stealing ? :) -
Minne Misses	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:32:00 - [113] theres gotta be more then 600 ppl in there now, so 600 x 15 bucks a month = 9000$ USD. With 9000$ USD im sure something can be done.
BiggestT Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:33:00 - [114] CCP focus on logins! Let there be a tad more lag instead Id prefer uber lag than a black screen -.- Again my previous disclaimer of knowing nothing about programming still applies Awesome EVE history
Garok Nor Blueprint Haus	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:34:00 - [115] Originally by: Skebet Originally by: BiggestT REROUTE JITA SERVER WEGHTING TO MSHD REGION! I mean damn whats more important, making sure the carebears can play or allowing an epic battle? I think you know the answer to that. See, most of those new, pve-oriented players CCP is trying to attract are going to see Jita long before they see a big fleet battle. CCP: You are asking for trouble. Really. People who have given you the benefit of the doubt may stop doing so soon. Can I have their stuff? ------------------------------------------------- Items posted by me are in no way a reflection of the policies and/or opinions of my corporation or alliance. {though they maybe really ought to be}
Ivor Doneit	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:36:00 - [116] LMAO MM at the blaim the game mechanics stage
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BiggestT Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:46:00 - [118] Sit. rep plz. Has NC been beaten off or..? Awesome EVE history
Gjs312 coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:48:00 - [119] Originally by: Haven Lexus Anyone want a nice NC / BOB hangman tourny to determine the fate of MSHD? First word has four letters, second is a proper name abbrievation w/ three letters... "F" Plz
BiggestT Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.09.27 17:50:00 - [120] Originally by: Gjs312 Originally by: Haven Lexus Anyone want a nice NC / BOB hangman tourny to determine the fate of MSHD? First word has four letters, second is a proper name abbrievation w/ three letters... "F" Plz ill have a C for cat thanks rob Awesome EVE history
Dark Angelete Gallente Dark Angel Battalion	Posted - 2008.09.27 18:10:00 - [121] its weird some of the responses we still see from people that have seen this "lag/crash" before in some form. u can see who will previal in this just by amount of crap posting in here and who the majority of it is from.
CynoHampster	Posted - 2008.09.27 18:11:00 - [122] Anyone wants a Cyno?
Djana Libra Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 18:14:00 - [123] Lol no problems n no lag after the 5th crash. O/ to ccp for the extra hamsters <SIG> I bought the wife a toy Deimos to have fun with while i play eve! </SIG>
DRACO selen Dark Rising Shadow Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 18:15:00 - [124] first few fights are over, lag wasnt such bad finally (thx ccp for the extra hamsters! ) http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/ET90/mshd_1.jpg http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/ET90/mshd_2.jpg (no idea how many kills / looses - I'm currently not even sure if I'm still alive )
ArmyOfMe Pernicious Creed Vendetta Alliance.	Posted - 2008.09.27 18:16:00 - [125] Originally by: Kirana Si Maybe the only real solution for this mess would be that you all wardec each other and then move to Jita to fight it out now thats a war i would have loved to see. but i guess ccp would have banned everyone and said it was griefing Originally by: deadmaus Because by the time we had calmed Plague down after he heard BoB were back in the vicinity it was too late to do anything
Pleased StarLight Inc. Prismatic Refraction	Posted - 2008.09.27 18:29:00 - [126] Edited by: Pleased on 27/09/2008 18:36:10 Edited by: Pleased on 27/09/2008 18:31:39 Originally by: Neermark I think there should be muzak on the entering system screen, or some other nice waiting tunes... Seems like we are going to spend the whole evening there I think that this gentleman got it right. I've crashed 4 - 5 times just trying to load MSHD, and yeah - I'm ****ed off. I don't mind loosing (Ok, I'm lying here - I do mind) but I would at least like to have the chance to fire off my guns!!! If CCP is hell bent on delivering a sub par performance on this game, which is - lets face it - geared towards huge engagements when it comes to Alliance warfare: - At least give us some easy listening as we're being shut out of the actual game. Something nice. Something easy on the ear. Something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUVagbFcSUU
Gabber359 Caldari Gulliver Corp Prismatic Refraction	Posted - 2008.09.27 18:50:00 - [127] Edited by: Gabber359 on 27/09/2008 18:51:01 Originally by: Pleased Edited by: Pleased on 27/09/2008 18:39:42 Edited by: Pleased on 27/09/2008 18:36:10 Edited by: Pleased on 27/09/2008 18:31:39 Originally by: Neermark I think there should be muzak on the entering system screen, or some other nice waiting tunes... Seems like we are going to spend the whole evening there I think that this gentleman got it right. I've crashed 4 - 5 times just trying to load MSHD, and yeah - I'm ****ed off. I don't mind loosing (Ok, I'm lying here - I do mind) but I would at least like to have the chance to fire off my guns!!! If CCP is hell bent on delivering a sub par performance on this game, which is - lets face it - geared towards huge engagements when it comes to Alliance warfare: - At least give us some easy listening as we're being shut out of the actual game. Something nice. Something easy on the ear. Something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUVagbFcSUU God help us all if they actually take to that.....no They need more of this imo: http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=oWwvFJSButk As for the loading, yeah, it sucks, but we all still blob knowing this crap is gonna happen. The only thing I fear, is running out of beer!
Gimora	Posted - 2008.09.27 19:00:00 - [128] Originally by: CCP Mindstar Hey all, We have sent an army of hamsters marching on this system now. Good luck and safe flying! ooo when i manged to loggin i max had 30-40 sec Minute lag :D Realy nice :)
Kiell Amor The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.27 19:12:00 - [129] Hmm, there was definitely something lacking in MSHD - or was it just for me? http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/kiellamor/2008.09.27.17.55.17.jpg
Seatoo Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.09.27 19:29:00 - [130] Can we get an update on the situation in MSHD?
Levitikon Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.27 19:35:00 - [131] Apparently, no you can't.
Kaaii Caldari PixelJuice Design Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 19:38:00 - [132] Edited by: Kaaii on 27/09/2008 19:44:21 Originally by: Seatoo Can we get an update on the situation in MSHD? Yes.. I can confirm* that my whole alliance still considers me a crap poaster I'll try to do better... According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
BiggestT Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.09.27 19:44:00 - [133] Originally by: Kiell Amor Hmm, there was definitely something lacking in MSHD - or was it just for me? http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/kiellamor/2008.09.27.17.55.17.jpg At least you got to fight, I didnt even get in untill ti was all over Only kill for me all night was when we went back and popped a typhoon -.- Awesome EVE history
Vily Amarr Lilium Venture Initiative	Posted - 2008.09.27 19:51:00 - [134] sounds like a whole lot of not fun -
herce Caldari Gladiators of Rage Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2008.09.27 20:14:00 - [135] crash anybody ?
DRACO selen Dark Rising Shadow Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.27 20:14:00 - [136] Originally by: Seatoo Can we get an update on the situation in MSHD? server / node / whatever keeps crashing - I think this is the 5-7 time today (not all crashed happend in mshd)
Niraco79 Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.27 20:14:00 - [137] m-o node crashed in a battle..yeah whole new stackless eve
Burlock Ironfist RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.27 20:19:00 - [138] another battle, another crash
Kiell Amor The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.27 20:28:00 - [139] Originally by: BiggestT Originally by: Kiell Amor Hmm, there was definitely something lacking in MSHD - or was it just for me? http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/kiellamor/2008.09.27.17.55.17.jpg At least you got to fight, I didnt even get in untill ti was all over Only kill for me all night was when we went back and popped a typhoon -.- Er, check where my UI should be and guess if I got to fight...
Levitikon Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.27 20:29:00 - [140] +1 node crash. We should add "node" to the killboard.
Scatim Helicon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.09.27 23:18:00 - [141] Originally by: BiggestT Has NC been beaten off or..? Well they had to do something to pass the time while they were waiting for the system to load... -----------

CCP Mindstar	Posted - 2008.09.27 23:51:00 - [142] Greetings all, Just a quick follow up to let you know what was going on server side with the fleet battles today. Right as the first battle in MSHD-4 commenced, we got our usual notification that the CPU on the node supporting that solar system was heavily loaded. Within a couple of minutes the node had died - somewhat unusual. Over the course of the next hour or so, the node died multiple times, and an analysis of the system logs showed that it was not responding well to the high load. At this point, we re-mapped the fleet battle to one of our new "dedicated" nodes. These were installed recently in the cluster and have around 16gb of RAM, and faster CPU than others. They also run a special 64-bit EVE server (thanks to StacklessIO we can do this now) that allows them to use this extra memory. Once the system was remapped, it seems that the newer hardware responded quite well to the fleet battle, and did not experience the same crashing issue as the regular node did. Our server boffins will be going over the data from this next week, so expect some more juicy information about all this stuff soon. Fly safe, Mindstar --

Khayman33 Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.09.28 00:13:00 - [143] So ... ? We will mail you where we think we will fighting ?.....
Vuk Lau 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.28 00:16:00 - [144] Originally by: CCP Mindstar Greetings all, Just a quick follow up to let you know what was going on server side with the fleet battles today. Right as the first battle in MSHD-4 commenced, we got our usual notification that the CPU on the node supporting that solar system was heavily loaded. Within a couple of minutes the node had died - somewhat unusual. Over the course of the next hour or so, the node died multiple times, and an analysis of the system logs showed that it was not responding well to the high load. At this point, we re-mapped the fleet battle to one of our new "dedicated" nodes. These were installed recently in the cluster and have around 16gb of RAM, and faster CPU than others. They also run a special 64-bit EVE server (thanks to StacklessIO we can do this now) that allows them to use this extra memory. Once the system was remapped, it seems that the newer hardware responded quite well to the fleet battle, and did not experience the same crashing issue as the regular node did. Our server boffins will be going over the data from this next week, so expect some more juicy information about all this stuff soon. Fly safe, Mindstar LOL what a c.r.a.p. do you really think we believe in this. Anyway another system (M-OEEB) crashed aswell several times (which happened also few days ago). Anyway props to everyone friendly or hostile who had patience to wait stucked and desynced for hours last few weeks and all that for only 14.95$ per month. P.S. Its time for new devblog about ambulation, or correcting spelling mistakes in Zimbabwe client so we can forget that we are paying for the product thats broken for years. Cya guys in M-O :D
Orange Species Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.28 00:20:00 - [145] Morsus warghwargh -------------
SFShootme Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.28 00:22:00 - [146] Edited by: SFShootme on 28/09/2008 00:22:47 Thanks for the update mindstar, the module latency didn't really appear to be a problem during the fights. But the server did not seem to respond really well to all the people logging in at the same time. Also, hi lorddragonmp5/imperian/shinma [VIDEO] Paroxysm
Nick Curso Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.28 00:22:00 - [147] Edited by: Nick Curso on 28/09/2008 00:23:56 Originally by: Vuk Lau Originally by: CCP Mindstar Greetings all, Just a quick follow up to let you know what was going on server side with the fleet battles today. Right as the first battle in MSHD-4 commenced, we got our usual notification that the CPU on the node supporting that solar system was heavily loaded. Within a couple of minutes the node had died - somewhat unusual. Over the course of the next hour or so, the node died multiple times, and an analysis of the system logs showed that it was not responding well to the high load. At this point, we re-mapped the fleet battle to one of our new "dedicated" nodes. These were installed recently in the cluster and have around 16gb of RAM, and faster CPU than others. They also run a special 64-bit EVE server (thanks to StacklessIO we can do this now) that allows them to use this extra memory. Once the system was remapped, it seems that the newer hardware responded quite well to the fleet battle, and did not experience the same crashing issue as the regular node did. Our server boffins will be going over the data from this next week, so expect some more juicy information about all this stuff soon. Fly safe, Mindstar LOL what a c.r.a.p. do you really think we believe in this. Anyway another system (M-OEEB) crashed aswell several times (which happened also few days ago). Anyway props to everyone friendly or hostile who had patience to wait stucked and desynced for hours last few weeks and all that for only 14.95$ per month. P.S. Its time for new devblog about ambulation, or correcting spelling mistakes in Zimbabwe client so we can forget that we are paying for the product thats broken for years. Cya guys in M-O :D How about u STFU stop being a smart ass and thank the guy for atleast trying to help us out and taking the time to explain it to us? Or is this beyond ppl in this games capability these days? If you want CCP to talk to us and try to fix the issues they obviously have stop being a bunch of self ritious jackasses, and post something constructive for a change? /emorant off
Master Arrow Trinity Capital Endeavors Incorporated	Posted - 2008.09.28 00:29:00 - [148] Hey I have an idea, lets update the visual effects again for more awards...to hell with the paying customers who would actually like to play.
fugazii Deep Space Productions	Posted - 2008.09.28 02:24:00 - [149] Originally by: Vuk Lau Originally by: CCP Mindstar Greetings all, Just a quick follow up to let you know what was going on server side with the fleet battles today. Right as the first battle in MSHD-4 commenced, we got our usual notification that the CPU on the node supporting that solar system was heavily loaded. Within a couple of minutes the node had died - somewhat unusual. Over the course of the next hour or so, the node died multiple times, and an analysis of the system logs showed that it was not responding well to the high load. At this point, we re-mapped the fleet battle to one of our new "dedicated" nodes. These were installed recently in the cluster and have around 16gb of RAM, and faster CPU than others. They also run a special 64-bit EVE server (thanks to StacklessIO we can do this now) that allows them to use this extra memory. Once the system was remapped, it seems that the newer hardware responded quite well to the fleet battle, and did not experience the same crashing issue as the regular node did. Our server boffins will be going over the data from this next week, so expect some more juicy information about all this stuff soon. Fly safe, Mindstar LOL what a c.r.a.p. do you really think we believe in this. Anyway another system (M-OEEB) crashed aswell several times (which happened also few days ago). Anyway props to everyone friendly or hostile who had patience to wait stucked and desynced for hours last few weeks and all that for only 14.95$ per month. P.S. Its time for new devblog about ambulation, or correcting spelling mistakes in Zimbabwe client so we can forget that we are paying for the product thats broken for years. Cya guys in M-O :D As a native Zimbabwein who also teaches Zimbabwenese to under privileged children, I find that correcting Zimbabwenese spelling mistakes should be a top priority. I mean c'mon how can you expect me to play the game if their is spelled thier? you see Iron does not leech off a suger daddy (bob) to make its way through eve or define itself as an entity. -Gneeznow 2008.08.27
cheephough Fat J Elitist Cowards	Posted - 2008.09.28 02:58:00 - [150] Ugh, quit your whining. Think of it as the lineup at the burger shwing. You stick 600 people in the same store, it's gonna take a while to get yer whopper folks. It may not even be warm, or have the right fixin's. You want a blue ribbon steak, be prepared to pay for it through the teeth. I'll take what I can get from the heat rack, thank you very much. Oh yeah, boost my pants.
Gjs312 coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.09.28 05:09:00 - [151] Originally by: CCP Mindstar Greetings all, Just a quick follow up to let you know what was going on server side with the fleet battles today. Right as the first battle in MSHD-4 commenced, we got our usual notification that the CPU on the node supporting that solar system was heavily loaded. Within a couple of minutes the node had died - somewhat unusual. Over the course of the next hour or so, the node died multiple times, and an analysis of the system logs showed that it was not responding well to the high load. At this point, we re-mapped the fleet battle to one of our new "dedicated" nodes. These were installed recently in the cluster and have around 16gb of RAM, and faster CPU than others. They also run a special 64-bit EVE server (thanks to StacklessIO we can do this now) that allows them to use this extra memory. Once the system was remapped, it seems that the newer hardware responded quite well to the fleet battle, and did not experience the same crashing issue as the regular node did. Our server boffins will be going over the data from this next week, so expect some more juicy information about all this stuff soon. Fly safe, Mindstar Wait.. You guys normally get a notification when a large fleet battle is starting and then decide if you want to reinforce the node or not? Or am I misunderstanding what you are saying. Either way, at least good to see some progress seems to be being made with fleet lag, esp while its someone elses fleets atm .
O Thief The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.09.28 07:45:00 - [152] Originally by: Vuk Lau Originally by: CCP Mindstar Greetings all, Just a quick follow up to let you know what was going on server side with the fleet battles today. Right as the first battle in MSHD-4 commenced, we got our usual notification that the CPU on the node supporting that solar system was heavily loaded. Within a couple of minutes the node had died - somewhat unusual. Over the course of the next hour or so, the node died multiple times, and an analysis of the system logs showed that it was not responding well to the high load. At this point, we re-mapped the fleet battle to one of our new "dedicated" nodes. These were installed recently in the cluster and have around 16gb of RAM, and faster CPU than others. They also run a special 64-bit EVE server (thanks to StacklessIO we can do this now) that allows them to use this extra memory. Once the system was remapped, it seems that the newer hardware responded quite well to the fleet battle, and did not experience the same crashing issue as the regular node did. Our server boffins will be going over the data from this next week, so expect some more juicy information about all this stuff soon. Fly safe, Mindstar LOL what a c.r.a.p. do you really think we believe in this. Anyway another system (M-OEEB) crashed aswell several times (which happened also few days ago). Anyway props to everyone friendly or hostile who had patience to wait stucked and desynced for hours last few weeks and all that for only 14.95$ per month. P.S. Its time for new devblog about ambulation, or correcting spelling mistakes in Zimbabwe client so we can forget that we are paying for the product thats broken for years. Cya guys in M-O :D Actually, I found his post to be informative and factual. Unlike your pointless, bitter rant. I know that a lack of lag generally means the NC losing since its the sole mechanism you've relied upon to 'win' fights for the past few years, but really... get over yourself.

CCP Mindstar	Posted - 2008.09.28 11:15:00 - [153] Originally by: Gjs312 Originally by: CCP Mindstar Greetings all, Just a quick follow up to let you know what was going on server side with the fleet battles today. Right as the first battle in MSHD-4 commenced, we got our usual notification that the CPU on the node supporting that solar system was heavily loaded. Within a couple of minutes the node had died - somewhat unusual. Over the course of the next hour or so, the node died multiple times, and an analysis of the system logs showed that it was not responding well to the high load. At this point, we re-mapped the fleet battle to one of our new "dedicated" nodes. These were installed recently in the cluster and have around 16gb of RAM, and faster CPU than others. They also run a special 64-bit EVE server (thanks to StacklessIO we can do this now) that allows them to use this extra memory. Once the system was remapped, it seems that the newer hardware responded quite well to the fleet battle, and did not experience the same crashing issue as the regular node did. Our server boffins will be going over the data from this next week, so expect some more juicy information about all this stuff soon. Fly safe, Mindstar Wait.. You guys normally get a notification when a large fleet battle is starting and then decide if you want to reinforce the node or not? Or am I misunderstanding what you are saying. We do have hardware monitors in place that will tell us if CPU or memory, is getting overloaded on a machine in the cluster. Tihs happens most commonly during fleet battles. Usually the course of action is to leave it as is, however there were two things different about the battle yesterday that caused us to decide to re-map it. - Firstly, it was causing repeated node deaths, which is not good and something we very much wish to avoid. We are going to very closely analyse why this was and ensure that it gets fixed asap. - Secondly, we have some newer hardware quite recently installed that we thought would be able to handle it a bit better. With the battle causing lots of problems running where it was on the existing hardware we decided to move it over to one of the new machines and see what happened. I hope that makes things a little clearer. Mindstar --

Tzrailasa Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.28 11:48:00 - [154] Originally by: CCP Mindstar Originally by: Gjs312 Originally by: CCP Mindstar Mindstar's 1st post Wait.. You guys normally get a notification when a large fleet battle is starting and then decide if you want to reinforce the node or not? Or am I misunderstanding what you are saying. We do have hardware monitors in place that will tell us if CPU or memory, is getting overloaded on a machine in the cluster. Tihs happens most commonly during fleet battles. Usually the course of action is to leave it as is, however there were two things different about the battle yesterday that caused us to decide to re-map it. - Firstly, it was causing repeated node deaths, which is not good and something we very much wish to avoid. We are going to very closely analyse why this was and ensure that it gets fixed asap. - Secondly, we have some newer hardware quite recently installed that we thought would be able to handle it a bit better. With the battle causing lots of problems running where it was on the existing hardware we decided to move it over to one of the new machines and see what happened. I hope that makes things a little clearer. Mindstar Great stuff! Please keep the tech info coming and ignore the whiners. From what I gather, remapping a system to another node can only be done when a solar-system is down (ie. have crashed or during DT), which is why you usually leave CPU/memory alarms alone? PS: A VERY technical blog sometime about how this works would be greatly appreciated (at least by me). My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance.
speedek Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.28 11:56:00 - [155] If that is true what u said, why don't you make auto remaping, because on last login there was no lag or anything in MHSD. Like I wouldn't mind if eve would automaticly reload me (and all the rest in system) again on new node when I am already loaded on old one. Just u could make sure that would happen before fight starts ;) I mean you could of course have 10 systems like that ready for extra heavy systems and just throw everyone on free one and let fleet battle start :P
Solanthus LightBringer Defenders of Faith The Black Isle	Posted - 2008.09.28 12:00:00 - [156] Edited by: Solanthus LightBringer on 28/09/2008 12:00:14 Originally by: Nick Curso Snip /emorant off What he said. A.sshole. Don't Get Mad. Get Even.
Centauris Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.28 12:00:00 - [157] Originally by: Master Arrow Hey I have an idea, lets update the visual effects again for more awards...to hell with the paying customers who would actually like to play. lol im in tears TC4LIFE I Am The LOL Generation
El'Shaitan Blue Sky torpedoes	Posted - 2008.09.28 12:06:00 - [158] Ok, nc flaming ccp, bob and pets flaming nc. I am gonna go ahead and flame you all. You suck. Oh and I look forward to walking in stations.
Rick Rollings	Posted - 2008.09.28 12:52:00 - [159] Originally by: Centauris Originally by: Master Arrow Hey I have an idea, lets update the visual effects again for more awards...to hell with the paying customers who would actually like to play. lol im in tears
Kaaii Caldari PixelJuice Design Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.28 13:26:00 - [160] Originally by: CCP Mindstar Greetings all, Within a couple of minutes the node had died - somewhat unusual. O Fly safe, Mindstar And just what color is the sky in your world.....??? According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
Morris Falter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.09.28 14:21:00 - [161] Originally by: CCP Mindstar <other interesting stuff> - Secondly, we have some newer hardware quite recently installed that we thought would be able to handle it a bit better. With the battle causing lots of problems running where it was on the existing hardware we decided to move it over to one of the new machines and see what happened. I hope that makes things a little clearer. Mindstar Thank you for the info - but I'm a little confused! Was stacklessIO not deployed across the whole cluster then..? I must have misread the devblog, because it sounded like the whole thing had been upgraded. Its interesting that the cluster has lots of different hardware, and different versions of the eve server app running on it too - is one of the projects for the future bringing all the cluster hardware up to the same level, and the 64bit code? As others have pointed out, its not so easy to say "hey ccp, we're going to have a huge battle in xxx-xx", and even if you plan to have a fight in a specific place, it does not always happen. As you say, normally you just leave the servers as is, so even if a large-scale fight is taking place on an older node, it will continue unless it dies or some other anomaly kicks in...? What I'm trying to say is - if we have a good percentage of our alliance (assets and people) involved in a specific location, we'd love to know that we're going to get the best possible server performance, instead of just throwing it all in there, and hoping for the best. If the route to getting a fleet fight on a better equipped node is to do your best to crash it, and hope it gets shunted across, you can guarantee people from all sides will try to do it, so its a bit of a can of worms you've opened there! I know this is a little pessimistic, but just being realistic, sadly. The flipside is, the things that seem to normally cause the worst lag, such as fighter swarms, cap ships swarms, are not deliberate attempts to crash the node, but just standard gameplay now. Which major fleet fight / pos attack or defence does not involve dozens of capital ships, hundreds of fighters, titans...? Just some hungover thoughts on the state we're in, I guess this is all on the dev team's mind already, but updates are always appreciated.
Pattonator Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.28 14:29:00 - [162] Originally by: CCP Mindstar Originally by: Gjs312 Originally by: CCP Mindstar Greetings all, Just a quick follow up to let you know what was going on server side with the fleet battles today. Right as the first battle in MSHD-4 commenced, we got our usual notification that the CPU on the node supporting that solar system was heavily loaded. Within a couple of minutes the node had died - somewhat unusual. Over the course of the next hour or so, the node died multiple times, and an analysis of the system logs showed that it was not responding well to the high load. At this point, we re-mapped the fleet battle to one of our new "dedicated" nodes. These were installed recently in the cluster and have around 16gb of RAM, and faster CPU than others. They also run a special 64-bit EVE server (thanks to StacklessIO we can do this now) that allows them to use this extra memory. Once the system was remapped, it seems that the newer hardware responded quite well to the fleet battle, and did not experience the same crashing issue as the regular node did. Our server boffins will be going over the data from this next week, so expect some more juicy information about all this stuff soon. Fly safe, Mindstar Wait.. You guys normally get a notification when a large fleet battle is starting and then decide if you want to reinforce the node or not? Or am I misunderstanding what you are saying. We do have hardware monitors in place that will tell us if CPU or memory, is getting overloaded on a machine in the cluster. Tihs happens most commonly during fleet battles. Usually the course of action is to leave it as is, however there were two things different about the battle yesterday that caused us to decide to re-map it. - Firstly, it was causing repeated node deaths, which is not good and something we very much wish to avoid. We are going to very closely analyse why this was and ensure that it gets fixed asap. - Secondly, we have some newer hardware quite recently installed that we thought would be able to handle it a bit better. With the battle causing lots of problems running where it was on the existing hardware we decided to move it over to one of the new machines and see what happened. I hope that makes things a little clearer. Mindstar Mindstar- Just an FYI but the GM's that handle the petitions are completely unaware that your system can detect or record any large amounts of cpu load or lag. Any petition is ALWAYS answered that the server side logs show no record of lag. In the future I'll forward any lag loss petitions to you.
Ervol Libra Amarr Invenio Inceptum	Posted - 2008.09.28 14:33:00 - [163] Originally by: CCP Mindstar Greetings all, Just a quick follow up to let you know what was going on server side with the fleet battles today. Right as the first battle in MSHD-4 commenced, we got our usual notification that the CPU on the node supporting that solar system was heavily loaded. Within a couple of minutes the node had died - somewhat unusual. Over the course of the next hour or so, the node died multiple times, and an analysis of the system logs showed that it was not responding well to the high load. At this point, we re-mapped the fleet battle to one of our new "dedicated" nodes. These were installed recently in the cluster and have around 16gb of RAM, and faster CPU than others. They also run a special 64-bit EVE server (thanks to StacklessIO we can do this now) that allows them to use this extra memory. Once the system was remapped, it seems that the newer hardware responded quite well to the fleet battle, and did not experience the same crashing issue as the regular node did. Our server boffins will be going over the data from this next week, so expect some more juicy information about all this stuff soon. Fly safe, Mindstar Sounds sweet, would be awsome if they could be automaticly assigned to nodes that crashed due to heavy fights immediatly after the regular node goes down. Or even better would be that it could like sync with the node and then just switch

CCP Mindstar	Posted - 2008.09.28 15:05:00 - [164] Originally by: Morris Falter Originally by: CCP Mindstar <other interesting stuff> - Secondly, we have some newer hardware quite recently installed that we thought would be able to handle it a bit better. With the battle causing lots of problems running where it was on the existing hardware we decided to move it over to one of the new machines and see what happened. I hope that makes things a little clearer. Mindstar Thank you for the info - but I'm a little confused! Was stacklessIO not deployed across the whole cluster then..? I must have misread the devblog, because it sounded like the whole thing had been upgraded. Its interesting that the cluster has lots of different hardware, and different versions of the eve server app running on it too - is one of the projects for the future bringing all the cluster hardware up to the same level, and the 64bit code? As others have pointed out, its not so easy to say "hey ccp, we're going to have a huge battle in xxx-xx", and even if you plan to have a fight in a specific place, it does not always happen. As you say, normally you just leave the servers as is, so even if a large-scale fight is taking place on an older node, it will continue unless it dies or some other anomaly kicks in...? What I'm trying to say is - if we have a good percentage of our alliance (assets and people) involved in a specific location, we'd love to know that we're going to get the best possible server performance, instead of just throwing it all in there, and hoping for the best. If the route to getting a fleet fight on a better equipped node is to do your best to crash it, and hope it gets shunted across, you can guarantee people from all sides will try to do it, so its a bit of a can of worms you've opened there! I know this is a little pessimistic, but just being realistic, sadly. The flipside is, the things that seem to normally cause the worst lag, such as fighter swarms, cap ships swarms, are not deliberate attempts to crash the node, but just standard gameplay now. Which major fleet fight / pos attack or defence does not involve dozens of capital ships, hundreds of fighters, titans...? Just some hungover thoughts on the state we're in, I guess this is all on the dev team's mind already, but updates are always appreciated. On the upgrade side of things - StacklessIO was indeed deployed to the entire cluster. This a software upgrade only, and only directly affects the network layer of the server code. Throwing out the old network code, however, allows us to do some new stuff - such as compiling 64 bit EVE Servers. This allows us more flexibility on the hardware side of things, such as trying out some different servers to use for heavily loaded areas. For the most part the cluster hardware and software is exactly the same across all nodes, so in the past there has not been any point in moving fleet fights around if they have overloaded a node. Because of this, there is no defined way of getting the system moved to better hardware. With the node deaths occurring last night, the opportunity arose to try out one of these new machines with a big fleet fight, so we took that opportunity. Now comes the part where we look at all the data we can, and go from there. I'd say keep an eye out for another dev blog soon (tm). --

Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.28 15:09:00 - [165] Would an idea be to have a "council" of alliance leaders that can communicate directly with CPP on where big battles are going to take place? It needs to be a CCP official that isn't involved in any territorial alliance of course, but it could help you guys to pre-assign a big node to somewhere where a big battle is going to be. We'd all have to know what "big" entails though. :) - -
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2008.09.28 15:16:00 - [166] Originally by: Vuk Lau Originally by: CCP Mindstar ...lots of informative tech stuff... LOL what a c.r.a.p. do you really think we believe in this. Anyway another system (M-OEEB) crashed aswell several times (which happened also few days ago). ... P.S. Its time for new devblog about ambulation, or correcting spelling mistakes in Zimbabwe client so we can forget that we are paying for the product thats broken for years. Good to see that at least a part of the playerbase appreciates the efforts CCP is doing for 0.0 and that they rather quickly responded to the node crashed and moved the system to a high performance node. The other guys yelling at how bad CCP are can rot away, no loss there. Who wants idiots that even at the best efforts of the devs can only talk sh!t when they open their mouth? Eve would be much better without them. I guess if those idiots are gone and reasonable people left, then we will get more dev feedbacks like just the above again. Those reports are really good to read! Thanks Mindstar!
Verite Rendition Caldari F.R.E.E. Explorer Elitist Cowards	Posted - 2008.09.28 15:48:00 - [167] Originally by: CCP Mindstar Originally by: Morris Falter Originally by: CCP Mindstar <other interesting stuff> - Secondly, we have some newer hardware quite recently installed that we thought would be able to handle it a bit better. With the battle causing lots of problems running where it was on the existing hardware we decided to move it over to one of the new machines and see what happened. I hope that makes things a little clearer. Mindstar Thank you for the info - but I'm a little confused! Was stacklessIO not deployed across the whole cluster then..? I must have misread the devblog, because it sounded like the whole thing had been upgraded. Its interesting that the cluster has lots of different hardware, and different versions of the eve server app running on it too - is one of the projects for the future bringing all the cluster hardware up to the same level, and the 64bit code? As others have pointed out, its not so easy to say "hey ccp, we're going to have a huge battle in xxx-xx", and even if you plan to have a fight in a specific place, it does not always happen. As you say, normally you just leave the servers as is, so even if a large-scale fight is taking place on an older node, it will continue unless it dies or some other anomaly kicks in...? What I'm trying to say is - if we have a good percentage of our alliance (assets and people) involved in a specific location, we'd love to know that we're going to get the best possible server performance, instead of just throwing it all in there, and hoping for the best. If the route to getting a fleet fight on a better equipped node is to do your best to crash it, and hope it gets shunted across, you can guarantee people from all sides will try to do it, so its a bit of a can of worms you've opened there! I know this is a little pessimistic, but just being realistic, sadly. The flipside is, the things that seem to normally cause the worst lag, such as fighter swarms, cap ships swarms, are not deliberate attempts to crash the node, but just standard gameplay now. Which major fleet fight / pos attack or defence does not involve dozens of capital ships, hundreds of fighters, titans...? Just some hungover thoughts on the state we're in, I guess this is all on the dev team's mind already, but updates are always appreciated. On the upgrade side of things - StacklessIO was indeed deployed to the entire cluster. This a software upgrade only, and only directly affects the network layer of the server code. Throwing out the old network code, however, allows us to do some new stuff - such as compiling 64 bit EVE Servers. This allows us more flexibility on the hardware side of things, such as trying out some different servers to use for heavily loaded areas. For the most part the cluster hardware and software is exactly the same across all nodes, so in the past there has not been any point in moving fleet fights around if they have overloaded a node. Because of this, there is no defined way of getting the system moved to better hardware. With the node deaths occurring last night, the opportunity arose to try out one of these new machines with a big fleet fight, so we took that opportunity. Now comes the part where we look at all the data we can, and go from there. I'd say keep an eye out for another dev blog soon (tm). That right there is like talking dirty, it's giving me one hell of a nerdgasm. Thanks for the info Mindstar, it's great to see the inner workings of CCP and how things are handled. ---- FREE Explorer Lead Megalomanic EVE Null-Sec Player Influence Map http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Veritefw/FWinf
Kushion Anti Sweden Defense Force Virtue of Selfishness	Posted - 2008.09.28 16:15:00 - [168] Thank you for the update, Mindstar. Interesting info, and it gives me hope for the future. Taggart Transdimensional corporation \| Capitalism \| Objectivism \| 0.0 \| No taxes \| No mandatory ops \| Join channel TAGGART for more
Apple Boy Gallente Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.28 19:39:00 - [169] Originally by: CCP Mindstar <other interesting stuff> Now comes the part where we look at all the data we can, and go from there. I'd say keep an eye out for another dev blog soon (tm). damn the (tm)! just to add a bit to your data, there was still a fairly big issue with phantom ships after we blew them up. Other then that, can you please put M-O on that server for the next few days? it worked a lot better than the normal ones.
Twoside Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.28 20:18:00 - [170] Originally by: Gnulpie Good to see that at least a part of the playerbase appreciates the efforts CCP is doing for 0.0 and that they rather quickly responded to the node crashed and moved the system to a high performance node. The other guys yelling at how bad CCP are can rot away, no loss there. Who wants idiots that even at the best efforts of the devs can only talk sh!t when they open their mouth? Eve would be much better without them. I guess if those idiots are gone and reasonable people left, then we will get more dev feedbacks like just the above again. Those reports are really good to read! Thanks Mindstar! Welcome to 2005! Can't blame Vuk for losing his patiance, oh and nick, there's a little bit of brown still left on your nose. Still, Mindstar is a breath of fresh air tbqh :)
jna Caldari Black Ash Enterprises	Posted - 2008.09.28 20:20:00 - [171] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Would an idea be to have a "council" of alliance leaders that can communicate directly with CPP on where big battles are going to take place? It needs to be a CCP official that isn't involved in any territorial alliance of course, but it could help you guys to pre-assign a big node to somewhere where a big battle is going to be. We'd all have to know what "big" entails though. :) Whilst CCP employees play the game (an idea I wholeheartedly support btw) this is a very, very bad idea. For us player, and for CCP as well. However, any automated node reassignment system is great. Node goes down due to CPU overload and X players in system? Reassign system(s) to better hardware, and leave them there until there's more call elsewhere. Even better, assign the better hardware in anticipation of trouble spots based on 0.0 traffic flows, tempered with a touch of "what are the hotspots in the last X hours, days, weeks". However, automation of these processes is the key. Until then, any and every manual node reinforcement will probably be regarded as 'wrapped in tinfoil'. ------------------------------------------------- Caeleste naves interretis res gravissimas sunt
Devian 666 Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.09.28 23:03:00 - [172] Originally by: jna However, any automated node reassignment system is great. Node goes down due to CPU overload and X players in system? Reassign system(s) to better hardware, and leave them there until there's more call elsewhere. Even better, assign the better hardware in anticipation of trouble spots based on 0.0 traffic flows, tempered with a touch of "what are the hotspots in the last X hours, days, weeks". However, automation of these processes is the key. Until then, any and every manual node reinforcement will probably be regarded as 'wrapped in tinfoil'. Note that this was a chance to test out a new server configuration rather than being a fully planned roll out. That and the statement that the majority of nodes are the same configuration. In the past they might have wanted to reinforce a node but that's not going to work if you don't have a better server node to reinforce with. http://obeythekitten.com/
Gjs312 coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.09.28 23:45:00 - [173] Originally by: CCP Mindstar Originally by: Gjs312 Originally by: CCP Mindstar I hope that makes things a little clearer. Mindstar That certainly does, thank you very much for taking the time to answer these questions (In caod no less )
Veldya Guristari Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2008.09.29 02:05:00 - [174] I think the frustrating part for players is despite all the talk of new hardware, new software and the like the game has become more laggier and more unstable with fewer ships than it was 12 months ago. While CCP is doing their best to put band-aids on the problem, if you have gang green a band-aid isn't going to really do a whole lot of good. There are underlying problems in game design which will unless addressed will not see things improve. For the next expansion, don't give us any content. Just re-design the EVE client from scratch that will work with 500 vs 500 fleet battles without any major issues.
Nobues Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.29 02:45:00 - [175] Originally by: Veldya I think the frustrating part for players is despite all the talk of new hardware, new software and the like the game has become more laggier and more unstable with fewer ships than it was 12 months ago. While CCP is doing their best to put band-aids on the problem, if you have gang green a band-aid isn't going to really do a whole lot of good. There are underlying problems in game design which will unless addressed will not see things improve. For the next expansion, don't give us any content. Just re-design the EVE client from scratch that will work with 500 vs 500 fleet battles without any major issues. 12 months aso there where also fewer players in eve, not I'm only just going to take a guess here that there are at lest 5% to 10% more players. With the new StacklessIO software I think it really helps, and a soon (if they do at all) switch all the eve cluster over to a 64 bit version it will only help more. You also have to give them credit where credit is due, This isn't wow where your be luck to fit 1000 to 2000 (lucky.) on one of there clusters (as they call them servers). We have over 250k people on ONE cluster, and growing. And the part about re-designing the eve client, well that had nothing to do with how the eve-server.. handles things, and it will take eve and now this is only a good guess over 1 to 2 MILLION man hours of programming to redesign and the eve-client. Webhosting, teamspeak and Killboard for you, your corp, and your Alliance Click me for more info
Veldya Guristari Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2008.09.29 05:32:00 - [176] Originally by: Nobues 12 months aso there where also fewer players in eve, not I'm only just going to take a guess here that there are at lest 5% to 10% more players. With the new StacklessIO software I think it really helps, and a soon (if they do at all) switch all the eve cluster over to a 64 bit version it will only help more. Just saying that despite what they are doing, things are getting worse. There are more people online, more accounts but they have also changed the scope of nullsec where you have to bring a motherload of crud ships to take down cyno jammers, it just makes blob warfare more of a requirement of the game, the bigger the entity you invade, the bigger the blob you need. Players are just trying to survive in the game they design, you can't blame 400-500 players from engaging in battles because it is the system CCP has dictated on the players. Just not much innovative thinking going on in terms of game design. From the layout of space to the cyno/reinforce system to the way drones, fighters and missiles work. All these factors contribute to the cesspool atm and really, nothing has been done design-wise to take the pressure off the hardware/software. Quote: You also have to give them credit where credit is due, This isn't wow where your be luck to fit 1000 to 2000 (lucky.) on one of there clusters (as they call them servers). We have over 250k people on ONE cluster, and growing. WoW wasn't designed for mass combat, EVE is. You can realistically only have 200 people in a system without the node keeling over or lagging stupidly, you have alliances with 5k to 10k pilots in them, and the way nullspace is designed it is forcing people to join together to form bigger alliances and coalitions. They could make design changed to significantly reduce the pressure to do so. Quote: And the part about re-designing the eve client, well that had nothing to do with how the eve-server.. handles things, and it will take eve and now this is only a good guess over 1 to 2 MILLION man hours of programming to redesign and the eve-client. They don't need to re-create EVE, there are significant elements that need to be re-designed, large slabs of the code is fine and will move over or convert over fairly easily. The way it stores, processes and handles the communication needs an overhaul. A game i played a long time ago DAOC couldn't handle more than 100 or 200 a side, they went back and re-coded the parts of the game engines that was causing the servers to buckle, the following engine could support 1000 man combats or more. You hit the nail on the head when you said EVE was designed with a very different playerbase and very different system in mind, for the old EVE the old code worked fine. They are going down a path the current code and hardware is just not going to stand up. In EVE conquering and defending nullspace is a massive chunk of the end-game, if you can't do it and have fun doing it then it will be massive crisis for the game. We all want to have fun playing EVE.
Gumpy Nighthawk Amarr Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.29 06:58:00 - [177] Well i must say, last night when we cyno'd in aprox 100 ppl into m-o and the system was max'd at almost 300, i didn't encounter any lag at all. So hopefully when we cyno in more, this will still be the same, it was a change seeing alot of people in one system without encountering any lag. /me crosses fingers. Signature Locked. Please refrain from amending a moderated warning. Navigator
Mr Phail FailCorp.	Posted - 2008.09.29 13:19:00 - [178] this is teh best thread
NAT Mav TribalWar Inc	Posted - 2008.09.29 14:51:00 - [179] Well I had a really well-worded reply, but the forums ate it. It's good to see CCP finally addressing the issues in a specific way and communicating with the players. It looks like the new code is promising, but also appears that it works so well that it has moved the bottleneck to the hardware side, based on the Jita testing and yesterdays events.
Anax Walsinghami The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.29 14:59:00 - [180] Originally by: O Thief I know that a lack of lag generally means the NC losing since its the sole mechanism you've relied upon to 'win' fights for the past few years, but really... get over yourself. Surely you jest. But then what battles have you been in lately other than FW.
Anax Walsinghami The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.29 15:07:00 - [181] When I posted this thread, my one hope was that CCP would finally respond to the lag issues surrounding large fleet engagements. That they did is a credit to them. Hopefully there will now be more transparency in dealing with the lag issue so we the player base can see how it will be handled. Will there be a report forth-coming after you analyze the node death data as to how you will be implementing changes? Hopefully in the next few weeks and not six months from now.
O Thief The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.09.29 15:17:00 - [182] Originally by: Anax Walsinghami Originally by: O Thief I know that a lack of lag generally means the NC losing since its the sole mechanism you've relied upon to 'win' fights for the past few years, but really... get over yourself. Surely you jest. But then what battles have you been in lately other than FW. Might I suggest you check your corp ticker before calling into question anyone elses PvP ability or experience
Anax Walsinghami The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.29 15:30:00 - [183] Edited by: Anax Walsinghami on 29/09/2008 15:30:29 Originally by: O Thief Originally by: Anax Walsinghami Originally by: O Thief I know that a lack of lag generally means the NC losing since its the sole mechanism you've relied upon to 'win' fights for the past few years, but really... get over yourself. Surely you jest. But then what battles have you been in lately other than FW. Might I suggest you check your corp ticker before calling into question anyone elses PvP ability or experience Touche
Andrommeda Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.29 15:42:00 - [184] Originally by: Anax Walsinghami Edited by: Anax Walsinghami on 29/09/2008 15:30:29 Originally by: O Thief Originally by: Anax Walsinghami Originally by: O Thief I know that a lack of lag generally means the NC losing since its the sole mechanism you've relied upon to 'win' fights for the past few years, but really... get over yourself. Surely you jest. But then what battles have you been in lately other than FW. Might I suggest you check your corp ticker before calling into question anyone elses PvP ability or experience Touche indeed _________________
Anax Walsinghami The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.29 16:01:00 - [185] Originally by: Andrommeda Originally by: Anax Walsinghami Edited by: Anax Walsinghami on 29/09/2008 15:30:29 Originally by: O Thief Originally by: Anax Walsinghami Originally by: O Thief I know that a lack of lag generally means the NC losing since its the sole mechanism you've relied upon to 'win' fights for the past few years, but really... get over yourself. Surely you jest. But then what battles have you been in lately other than FW. Might I suggest you check your corp ticker before calling into question anyone elses PvP ability or experience Touche indeed To be clear I was not calling into question O Thiefs or his corps pvp experience. I was calling into question his knowledge that NC uses lag for our benefit. Last time I checked it was BoB that seems to understand and use lag to their benefit. As to Tgrads, we have not been involved in FW but we do our share of fielding pilots into NC fleets.
O Thief The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.09.29 16:21:00 - [186] Originally by: Anax Walsinghami To be clear I was not calling into question O Thiefs or his corps pvp experience. I was calling into question his knowledge that NC uses lag for our benefit. Last time I checked it was BoB that seems to understand and use lag to their benefit. As to Tgrads, we have not been involved in FW but we do our share of fielding pilots into NC fleets. You must be new to the NC. By the way, you might want to brush up on your FW game mechanics knowledge. Alliances can't participate.
Morris Falter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.09.29 16:26:00 - [187] Originally by: Anax Walsinghami Last time I checked it was BoB that seems to understand and use lag to their benefit. In honesty, if lag wins a fight, its pretty crappy all round. So regardless of "wowz we did winnzor ur outpostz rololo" tarzanning, still the fight was won by the fact that either you or your enemy couldn't do their best, which is hardly an ideal cause for champagne and caviar at the club house. Important note - this is entirely, entirely different to strategy / tactics / planning / traps. Short term, the 'winner' gets some more stuff, but long term less fun as people get ****ed off and leave, less interesting pew pew, more zombie power blocs.. more 30 minute activation lag.. etc etc. Or am I totally misreading this?
Richard Angevian The Crusaders.	Posted - 2008.09.29 16:31:00 - [188] Nice that you tested a new node setup, but the obvious point needs to be brought up: This is yet another example of BOB getting special treatment above and beyond what "normal" alliances (ie one that doesn't have half the dev team playing for). I've been in many huge battles, battles a lot larger than MSH, and not only has CCP done jack about it during the fight, they never have reimbursed ONE loss of mine that happened due to node issues. If you are going to step in and boost a node for one particular battle, IMHO you are obligated to do so for EVERY battle. The live environment should never be used for testing, especially if it's done in a way as to give one in game entity (BOB) an advantage that you don't give everyone else.
Straight Chillen Gallente Solar Wind	Posted - 2008.09.29 16:49:00 - [189] MAX is the dev's pet project to test MAXimum node Load? C/d?
O Thief The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.09.29 17:20:00 - [190] Originally by: Richard Angevian Nice that you tested a new node setup, but the obvious point needs to be brought up: This is yet another example of BOB getting special treatment above and beyond what "normal" alliances (ie one that doesn't have half the dev team playing for). I've been in many huge battles, battles a lot larger than MSH, and not only has CCP done jack about it during the fight, they never have reimbursed ONE loss of mine that happened due to node issues. If you are going to step in and boost a node for one particular battle, IMHO you are obligated to do so for EVERY battle. The live environment should never be used for testing, especially if it's done in a way as to give one in game entity (BOB) an advantage that you don't give everyone else. If the node reinforcement wasn't requested by a member of the NC, you might have a point.
Anax Walsinghami The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.29 18:12:00 - [191] Originally by: O Thief Originally by: Richard Angevian Nice that you tested a new node setup, but the obvious point needs to be brought up: This is yet another example of BOB getting special treatment above and beyond what "normal" alliances (ie one that doesn't have half the dev team playing for). I've been in many huge battles, battles a lot larger than MSH, and not only has CCP done jack about it during the fight, they never have reimbursed ONE loss of mine that happened due to node issues. If you are going to step in and boost a node for one particular battle, IMHO you are obligated to do so for EVERY battle. The live environment should never be used for testing, especially if it's done in a way as to give one in game entity (BOB) an advantage that you don't give everyone else. If the node reinforcement wasn't requested by a member of the NC, you might have a point. By this time the battle had shifted from MSHD to MO where NC was successfully preventing GBC from entering MO from Taisy. At this point the node crashed once again (# 6 or 7 I had lost count by then). Now it was at this point that CCP brought on the node repair. The funny part is that the repair now allowed BoB to enter MO in force while NC was not able to load back into game in enough time to do anything to prevent the incursion. This means that BoB was able to load AND enter MO while NC could not even load fast enough to do anything. I'll leave the more programing adept to answer why. At this point after 6 node crashes prior, I don't know who requested what.
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.29 18:23:00 - [192] Originally by: Anax Walsinghami Originally by: O Thief Originally by: Richard Angevian Nice that you tested a new node setup, but the obvious point needs to be brought up: This is yet another example of BOB getting special treatment above and beyond what "normal" alliances (ie one that doesn't have half the dev team playing for). I've been in many huge battles, battles a lot larger than MSH, and not only has CCP done jack about it during the fight, they never have reimbursed ONE loss of mine that happened due to node issues. If you are going to step in and boost a node for one particular battle, IMHO you are obligated to do so for EVERY battle. The live environment should never be used for testing, especially if it's done in a way as to give one in game entity (BOB) an advantage that you don't give everyone else. If the node reinforcement wasn't requested by a member of the NC, you might have a point. By this time the battle had shifted from MSHD to MO where NC was successfully preventing GBC from entering MO from Taisy. At this point the node crashed once again (# 6 or 7 I had lost count by then). Now it was at this point that CCP brought on the node repair. The funny part is that the repair now allowed BoB to enter MO in force while NC was not able to load back into game in enough time to do anything to prevent the incursion. This means that BoB was able to load AND enter MO while NC could not even load fast enough to do anything. I'll leave the more programing adept to answer why. At this point after 6 node crashes prior, I don't know who requested what. You lost at least half your BS fleet with only killing one GBC BS before the node died and you're trying to tell us that you were winning that battle? The ignorance of the Northern monkeys gets better by the day. - -
Anax Walsinghami The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.29 18:40:00 - [193] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr You lost at least half your BS fleet with only killing one GBC BS before the node died and you're trying to tell us that you were winning that battle? The ignorance of the Northern monkeys gets better by the day. Gee I stopped counting your losses on our KB at over 80. Perhaps Sir, you should post your own losses so you can get a better count.
SK Rooster Out of Order	Posted - 2008.09.29 18:50:00 - [194] Originally by: Anax Walsinghami Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr You lost at least half your BS fleet with only killing one GBC BS before the node died and you're trying to tell us that you were winning that battle? The ignorance of the Northern monkeys gets better by the day. Gee I stopped counting your losses on our KB at over 80. Perhaps Sir, you should post your own losses so you can get a better count. you should stop posting really, its embarrassing for your alliance
Nobues Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.29 19:14:00 - [195] Originally by: SK Rooster Originally by: Anax Walsinghami Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr You lost at least half your BS fleet with only killing one GBC BS before the node died and you're trying to tell us that you were winning that battle? The ignorance of the Northern monkeys gets better by the day. Gee I stopped counting your losses on our KB at over 80. Perhaps Sir, you should post your own losses so you can get a better count. you should stop posting really, its embarrassing for your alliance This coming from a guy who is too scared to post using his.. Webhosting, teamspeak and Killboard for you, your corp, and your Alliance Click me for more info
O Thief The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.09.29 19:28:00 - [196] Originally by: Anax Walsinghami Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr You lost at least half your BS fleet with only killing one GBC BS before the node died and you're trying to tell us that you were winning that battle? The ignorance of the Northern monkeys gets better by the day. Gee I stopped counting your losses on our KB at over 80. Perhaps Sir, you should post your own losses so you can get a better count. www.killboard.net is your friend of course, you only lost the fights because of the node reinforcement... nothing to do with BoB being better than you... no, that can't be it... everyone knows that in lag-free fights on reinforced nodes only the devspoilters win and good FC'ing can't possibly work
Anax Walsinghami The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.29 19:29:00 - [197] Originally by: SK Rooster Originally by: Anax Walsinghami Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr You lost at least half your BS fleet with only killing one GBC BS before the node died and you're trying to tell us that you were winning that battle? The ignorance of the Northern monkeys gets better by the day. Gee I stopped counting your losses on our KB at over 80. Perhaps Sir, you should post your own losses so you can get a better count. you should stop posting really, its embarrassing for your alliance Whats embarrassing is someone without a clue trying to attention seek here. Oh wait, you are looking for a new corp to join and you hope to suck up to a BoB corp. Amirite?
O Thief The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.09.29 19:30:00 - [198] Originally by: Anax Walsinghami Originally by: SK Rooster Originally by: Anax Walsinghami Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr You lost at least half your BS fleet with only killing one GBC BS before the node died and you're trying to tell us that you were winning that battle? The ignorance of the Northern monkeys gets better by the day. Gee I stopped counting your losses on our KB at over 80. Perhaps Sir, you should post your own losses so you can get a better count. you should stop posting really, its embarrassing for your alliance Whats embarrassing is someone without a clue trying to attention seek here. Oh wait, you are looking for a new corp to join and you hope to suck up to a BoB corp. Amirite? Are you saying waagaa doenst have a clue? You know he FC's, right?
Anax Walsinghami The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.29 19:36:00 - [199] Edited by: Anax Walsinghami on 29/09/2008 19:43:27 Edited by: Anax Walsinghami on 29/09/2008 19:40:01 Edited by: Anax Walsinghami on 29/09/2008 19:38:59 Then why did he post with SK Rooster? Oh I see....I was responding to Rooster in the quote. As to the other guy saying he lost 1 BS I again say our kb show at least 80 GBC kills
slip66 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.29 19:53:00 - [200] Originally by: Richard Angevian Nice that you tested a new node setup, but the obvious point needs to be brought up: This is yet another example of BOB getting special treatment above and beyond what "normal" alliances (ie one that doesn't have half the dev team playing for). I've been in many huge battles, battles a lot larger than MSH, and not only has CCP done jack about it during the fight, they never have reimbursed ONE loss of mine that happened due to node issues. If you are going to step in and boost a node for one particular battle, IMHO you are obligated to do so for EVERY battle. The live environment should never be used for testing, especially if it's done in a way as to give one in game entity (BOB) an advantage that you don't give everyone else. lol, Both NC & BOB got "special" treatment by the devs trying repair a server problem. This was after 6-8 node crashes suffered by both sides. Stop trolling... NC AND bob had the same hardware & software advantages and disadavatnages after they implentment the fix.
xDOTHEDEWx School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.09.30 14:26:00 - [201] I find it ironic that you put 1000+ people in the same system and it crashes and everyone wants to ***** aboutà.the underlying factor that most are forgetting is that it was playable up until the system crashed. Normal fleet fights between 500 & 600 should be do able now! Sorry NC you have to drop a fewà.but hey when CCP put the restrictions on system numbers it will be done automatically for ya!!!

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