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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2012.03.30 04:39:00 -
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This might explain the whole "Concord Death Ray" concept that is being considered at CCP right now.
When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Endeavour Starfleet
788
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Posted - 2012.03.30 04:45:00 -
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Evading Concord is an exploit period.
Jita does need to burn but lets be real folks. These guys are heading for a ban. Don't do this. |

Msgerbs
Aliastra Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2012.03.30 05:28:00 -
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Jintlich wrote:CCP don't think Tornado Boomerang Maneuver is an exploit Source? |

Jita Bloodtear
Bloodtear Labs
99
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Posted - 2012.03.30 05:48:00 -
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If you consider this an issue, you should push for being unable to warp once you commit a concordable offense in highsec. Leave concord response times the same, just prevent warping. Just as you cannot cloak once you commit a crime in highsec. |

Reaver Glitterstim
Resurrected Darkness
86
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Posted - 2012.03.30 05:55:00 -
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CONCORD should warp scramble you long before they fire the omni-damage weapon. That would fix this issue. Might have some really tiny ships pulling this trick, but not tornadoes.
I'd like to see assault frigate boomerang gangs! -á"The Mittani: Hated By Badposters i'm strangely comfortable with it" -Mittens |

Reaver Glitterstim
Resurrected Darkness
86
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Posted - 2012.03.30 05:57:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Evading Concord is an exploit period.
Jita does need to burn but lets be real folks. These guys are heading for a ban. Don't do this. I highly doubt CCP will take action against the people doing this. The game is very clearly allowing them to do it. But CCP will probably make some change to game mechanics to make it reasonably difficult or impossible to do in the future. -á"The Mittani: Hated By Badposters i'm strangely comfortable with it" -Mittens |

Nathan Jameson
Talocan Dominion Talocan United
327
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Posted - 2012.03.30 06:27:00 -
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Jita Bloodtear wrote:If you consider this an issue, you should push for being unable to warp once you commit a concordable offense in highsec. Leave concord response times the same, just prevent warping. Just as you cannot cloak once you commit a crime in highsec.
This, or something akin, is probably the best solution, as it changes things the least. My freighter shouldn't be impregnable, but it should take more than a single Tier 3 and a bumping battleship to gank. |

Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
59
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Posted - 2012.03.30 09:03:00 -
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Oh hey look we made the forums
and fyi this takes like ******* forever to pull off lawl |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5840
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Posted - 2012.03.30 09:10:00 -
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Takoten Yaken wrote:Brian Purkiss wrote:They way I understand it is that escaping CONCORD is considered an exploit. So in high sec, any kill that does not involve kill rights or GCC is considered an exploit. wrong You're quite wrong, yes.
Escaping CONCORD is always an exploit. The only way a Tornado can deliver 180k raw damage in highsec is through a) a wardec; b) kill rights; c) escaping CONCORD (or deliveing 6k DPS, which will most likely be an exploit as well).
Ranger 1 wrote:This might explain the whole "Concord Death Ray" concept that is being considered at CCP right now. It is. The end result won't exactly be that, but something similar: immediately on aggression, they will magically warpscam you; after a pre-determined time depending on sec level, you blow up (and any ships showing up is just decoration GÇö no actual shooting mechanics will be involved). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |

Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
86
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Posted - 2012.03.30 09:31:00 -
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Are they doing it vs afk freighters? Because I don't know how you bump an autopiloting freighter that much in high sec. Bumping a freighter in a cruiser hull does not do anything. Maybe a nano pest can bump pretty good but bumping a freighter is nowhere near as easy as it used to be. I cannot imagine an active player could ever die to this, I bet it takes forever to kill too.
If this is still legal tomorrow I'm gonna do some testing and go nuts. Grats to the gankers, very nice! |

Zowie Powers
Hole in the wall
66
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Posted - 2012.03.30 09:56:00 -
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Great, so you're just going to get a CONCORD boost imposed on the rest of us that don't want to be massive bell ends. |

Jintlich
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
7
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Posted - 2012.03.30 10:02:00 -
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Yes you can bump the freighter with your orca, and at the same time ready for picking loots. Once bumped, it cost a freighter minutes to realign. After the last patch, logging off can not save them because they are "engaging by others". Since they can not align, the poor freighter will not warp away automatically. You do not need to pick afk freighters. When they jump to a new system, they are 15 Km from the gate, bump them and get a kill. The only thing these poor freighter fliers may do is seeing their ships pop by gankers, or just self destruct.
All of the law-obeying players are not necessary in EVE, because pirates are sooooooooooo important. that's the rule of CCP. |

Donedy
The Scope Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.03.30 10:19:00 -
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Can't they jump out? I mean with a cyno? (I dont know the jump range of the JF...) |

Neddy Fox
FireStar Inc Curatores Veritatis Alliance
9
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Posted - 2012.03.30 10:34:00 -
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I've died in a freighter to the same tactics, even being active 100% and warping to zero.
Got bumped , and 5 tornados kept shooting / warping until I died. There was litterally nothing you can do against it.
I don't mind the tactics itself, but as a freighter pilot (with no means to fit anything) I petitioned to see if it was a valid tactic, and the response was that it was a valid tactic and that Concord might be slow.
How to balance this (esp. the single tornado killing a freighter) I dont know, but I feel something has to be done to avoid this unbalance.
The risk/reward is completely out of sync , now even transporting 100M worth of crap makes you a valid target, in a ship that can't defend itself. Obviously , being in a NPC corp means that you can't use instawebbing support vessels.
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Donedy
The Scope Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.03.30 11:09:00 -
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Put guns on freighters CCP! \o/ |

Chi Ana
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
45
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Posted - 2012.03.30 11:22:00 -
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Grumpymunky wrote:It won't be considered an exploit until it gets used against goons. Then it'll be a bannable offence within 2 hours.
Butthurt ?
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