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Dawink
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.09.30 14:38:00 -
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Dont know what the market looks like for this but here is an idea that can gain ISK plus PvP.
Mercenary....***** your weapons out...somewhere there has to be a miner/freighter looking for a body guard. Or a Merc corp looking for someone to join their ranks in helping the Carebear corp from being torn apart by War Dec pirates.
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Coros
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.09.30 15:15:00 -
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Buy GTC's and let kids spend their days ratting the ISK for you  |
Guygeboe
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Posted - 2008.09.30 15:24:00 -
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 Originally by: Coros
Buy GTC's and let kids spend their days ratting the ISK for you
That..
Or go camp a lowsec gate somewhere, and kill every hauler that comes by....you could be lucky and find that BPO of 500mil....or something profitable else.
missions in nullsec pay a lot more, as you probably allready know....
at last: go learn/buy a marauder, that makes missions fun, because you do them insanely fast. :) At least i can fun out of that....
Hope it helps
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Herring
Caldari
Metalworks
THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2008.09.30 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Ok, so I need some help. I'm a fairly avid PVP'er and I don't really lose many ships, but I have found myself broke by virtue of a misadventure of moving to 0.0, buying ammo for PVP, and skills. And my interest in Eve is quickly failing because I can't stand PVE.
So I need someone tell me how to enjoy the grind for ISK again... because I'm down to ~20M isk and the idea of logging in to run missions for a month to get a reasonable ISK foundation under me again makes me want to go plow a field by hand.
I own a faction fit raven, a 4 BCU T2 raven, a sentry Domi, an afk domi, and an AC Maelstrom... and I have at or near perfect skills for each of these ships.
-Liang
Do you have positive standings with any npc corps?
If so getting some research agents going for relatively work-free income periodically is always a good idea.
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Cmndr Griff
Opinicus Operations
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Posted - 2008.09.30 15:41:00 -
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Exploration in low-sec isn't bad at all and the one here i'd suggest. Yes trade, science etc can net you more isk but both are new skill trees for you by the sound of things and you don't get to shoot much. One of my old corp mates could make 250-500mil a day on Radar sites. I'm so bored of ratting that I am going to drag out the Cov' ops once more just for this purpose.
I used a Heavy Pulse Pilgrim just in case anyone decided to bust the party, and it was easily enough tank for the sites if doing the profession ones. Radar sites pays best, and if you have the skills and salvage alt combat sites can net good isk too. They are significantly harder than a lot of 4s (if not all), and should you hit 0.0. then again its a whole new ball game so should be a challenge. Seeing a siege tower for the first time is certainly an experience... |
slothe
Caldari
Murky Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.30 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden
Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 30/09/2008 02:10:54
Get into exploration. The actual combat part is much like missions, but there's a lot of twists
You don't know what you're going to run into. There's a huge number of exploration plexes and you're never going to be able to think "Oh, look, Guristas X outpost. I remember this, I can expect Y Z and Q". Not to mention that everything about it is a gamble, which makes it exciting. The concept of spending time seeking a potentially huge reward rather than predictably grinding for a predictable reward is awesome. I tell you I was -damn- pleased when I found a Snake Delta in a 0.0 plex. I get really tense when I hack open a can in a radar plex, hoping to find something good (Symbiotic Figures anyone?)...or I sink back into my chair in disappointment finding some positron cords or something..
Oh, and a great deal of Unknown (combat) complexes require a group to do which always makes it more interesting.
I'd give it a shot. I find it a very fair deal more interesting than missioning or ratting.,
id recommend this tbh
but do it in 0.0 as the rewards can be very good.
it will take you a while to work out what to do, what skills to train, what ships to fly etc. imho thats the fun bit as its a challenge.
dont expect to get great rewards every time you do a complex, good rewards are rare.
however if you do 0.0 exploration, you can find some sites that generate 400-500 mill a night, some that go up as high as 1bn isk / completed plex. you will for most need friends. so find a friendly 0.0 area, usually in a npc system and join together for the challenge.
its the only thing thats been keeping me going in eve recently. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
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Posted - 2008.09.30 16:20:00 -
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I find excitement in blockade running. Fast frig with stabs and protection gear - don't bother with weapons because they won't help (you don't want to fight, you want to run).
However it's cheap and simply ****es off PC rats, it does not pay either but it's good for a laugh.
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Coros
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.09.30 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Coros
Buy GTC's and let kids spend their days ratting the ISK for you
I would like to add that I recommend doing that if you have the skills to pay the bills IRL and you want to have pvp without wondering about how to get the ISK for it..
Other cheaper options are,
0.0 ratting in assault ship - this is FUN 
or
exploration - this is fun too but not so easy
anyhoo in both you will have to dodge crazy 0.0 blobbing alliances.  Wich is fun 
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
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Posted - 2008.09.30 20:15:00 -
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Thanks guys... all very helpful. While I can easily afford to do the GTC route, I don't like to and am leery of spending unnecessary cash in the face of the coming economic depression.
I think for now I'm going to do some exploration and work towards having the cash to pay for a ninja ratting ship. On the bright side, I ran the Blockade last night in an all but untanked Raven and it got me down to 3% cap and 5% shields... I suppose maybe I shouldn't have killed off all of the triggers as they spawned, eh?
Well, thanks. :)
-Liang
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Yzen Mors
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Posted - 2008.09.30 20:21:00 -
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may I suggest training for exploration?
it's kinda fun, and you can usually watch a movie while you do it... occasionally you'll find a rare blueprint or something that will sell for ammounts that are isktastic, of course, those are rare, far and few, but the huge payouts are worth it!
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The Vixen
Gallente
DataPipe Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.01 02:25:00 -
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Thread delivers.
No sarcasm.
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
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Posted - 2008.10.01 04:33:00 -
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Originally by: The Vixen
Thread delivers.
No sarcasm.
Sig delivers.
-Liang
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H Lecter
Gallente
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2008.10.01 10:34:00 -
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I don't know if it fits your style - but less blowing up of ships and more ransoming usually helps to fill the wallet again - any other activity including mining makes more profit per hour, but ransoms can be a lot more fun.  
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K'uata Sayus
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Posted - 2008.10.01 13:43:00 -
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Everyone just give Liang 20M Isk for her in-depth analysis of Minmitar Projectile weapons and ships. Kinda a consulting fee after the fact. |
glassmanipulator
The Secret Fleet
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Posted - 2008.10.07 00:31:00 -
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Join a medium sized wealthy corporation. Gain there trust. Once they give you access to corp hangar bay, steal everything. You will be set. 
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ollobrains2
Gallente
New Eve Order Holdings
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Posted - 2008.10.07 01:54:00 -
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u could always head to empire mission systems get scan skills up and go annoy mission runners or get into the exploration thing in low sec - 0.0 or even high sec but yes after a while even those look the same and the recent nerf ccp applied to low sec anamolies hasnt helped with less bs and more cruiser-bc spawns in em they lowered the isk per hour so even more ppl will be moving out of low sec now.
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Juicy Fruits
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Posted - 2008.10.07 08:53:00 -
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your new ingame goal:
create enough ISK to allow you not to need the grind anymore.
I have done this twice now for different characters and its achievable.
taking a few gambles with your isk can pay dividends down the line even if you have to sit on your investments for a while.
nb. if you just moved out to 0.0 check whether your alliance/corp has access to a decent market, if they dont make one. You dont have to have trade skills to figure out what will shift in 0.0 
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fivetide humidyear
Gallente
EXCESS10N
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Posted - 2008.10.07 09:33:00 -
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Edited by: fivetide humidyear on 07/10/2008 09:35:09
setup a ratting point in quiet (or not so quiet) null sec for ratting, exploration, anomalies and sec pain free PvP. beats missions tbh, i tend to use missions only to keep sec status in check now, farming the blockade is ftw
drop me an evemail mate and i'll tell you where we base out of in null sec. hell, i'll jump some stuff out if you want, the exploration can be interesting and sitting near a pipe can get you some pvp too.
market pvp can be fun in short bursts too, paid for a couple of caps and skills that way, still using the excess ISK now.
and ransoms, definitely, i'd always ransom a hulk now.
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Joss Sparq
Caldari
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.07 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Thanks guys... all very helpful. While I can easily afford to do the GTC route, I don't like to and am leery of spending unnecessary cash in the face of the coming economic depression.
While the economy (globally) is a concern for many of us, I would quickly point out that getting in the region of five hundred million ISK (or slightly less) for a 60 day GTC is far superior value than a seller used to get from the sale of a 90 day GTC when both cost approximately the same price.
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Sarah Lapre
Looking Glass Research
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Posted - 2008.10.08 22:17:00 -
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If you live in 0.0 and are able to run the cosmos mission out there, it's VERY profitable. I would recommend doing this, it's the fastest way (imho) to gain isk without the nasty grind of running missions or belt ratting. If you want to know more, eve-mail me in-game.
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Ademaro Imre
Caldari
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.10.08 23:13:00 -
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Why are you using t2 fitted battleships? They are not necessary. Use smaller cheaper ships. Fly t1 support ships. Insurance pays for the ship basically.
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Lance Mercer
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Posted - 2008.10.09 21:01:00 -
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Ok so it seems like Eve is getting real boring, and you want to be able to do more in the time that you play. Well since I've known you to be quite a forum szar, you also seem to be able to influance a group of thought.
Heres a real crazy idea, become a CEO of a PVP training school... You will be able to fuel your desire to PVP in simple t1 cruisers, and frigates..for the real noobs. If you maintain a lowsec bordoring headquarters, and train fast talk so that the simple belt ratting is capable of keeping you in sec range of highsec travel, so that you can also wardec highsec nubs, for advanced training techniques. Keep a moderate tax rate with simple access to t1 ammo and t1 frigates for new members, the fact that new folks play a ton and do all kinds of things out there, youll reap a small reward on each of these. Now I dont see any issue with you paying yourself for the time you spend setting up all the training classes(ops) and Making all the training material for the corporation, but dont be a butt and rip off your corp either. Since your a training corp youll have a constant flux of newbies making isk and no real need for further corp goals to use the tax isk on... Tax isk is training costs. Members have an ability when ever they feel ready to leave the corp, and membership is atwill basis. Classes are held 3 times a week, mon,wed,fri, or however you feel.
Anyway text wall, but you get the idea... this may not be fun in the begining, but will use your time in Eve and allow you to create a good passive income in taxes.
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