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Baghtar	Posted - 2008.09.30 17:50:00 - [1] Edited by: Baghtar on 30/09/2008 17:50:31 This problem started after todays patch. I have never had any problems with eve locking up when I switch workspace before but now its doing it every time I do it. Anyone else experiencing this and have any workaround. Running Wine 1.1.5 in Ubuntu 8.04.
Keyser Wilhelm	Posted - 2008.09.30 18:07:00 - [2] Can confirm this. As soon as i switch to another whatever, the client/wine freezes. Running wine 1.1.5 with Gentoo GNU/Linux. Have been running with wine and gentoo for at least a year without much trouble. The patch does seem to screw things up a bit.
Elegbara	Posted - 2008.09.30 18:18:00 - [3] If you alt-tab from Eve into another application, Eve keeps running. Once you return focus back to Eve, it freezes. Wine 1.1.5, Ubuntu 8.04 here. Open your eyes. And Awaken.
Baghtar	Posted - 2008.09.30 18:25:00 - [4] Seems like its not only me then, now when we have confirmed that 100% of all Linux users got this error(3of3) all that is left is someone being a wine wizard to come in and tell us what to do. Gonna loose a ship soon due to my tabing reflex.
Einheriar Glad Black Reign The Five	Posted - 2008.09.30 18:27:00 - [5] Same here .... wine 1.1.5, Ubuntu 8.04 - Glad -------------------------------------------------- Keep your CAOD clean
Keyn Thror Minmatar	Posted - 2008.09.30 18:27:00 - [6] Confirming this, started after today's patch. Never had this problem before. I start the client, load to whatever stage (login screen, char select screen, the game - anything), then click out of the game window, click in the game window - then client freezes 100%. Running Wine 1.1.1 on Debian 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686
Baghtar	Posted - 2008.09.30 18:29:00 - [7] Edited by: Baghtar on 30/09/2008 18:36:39 I have now also tested on the last 'stable' wine version 1.0.0 and its the same in that version. From the "Eve under Linux /w wine": Originally by: Kadesh Priestess Filled in issue 15485, vote for it :)
Keyser Wilhelm	Posted - 2008.09.30 18:42:00 - [8] Edited by: Keyser Wilhelm on 30/09/2008 18:46:12 Edited by: Keyser Wilhelm on 30/09/2008 18:42:32 Well, i suggest that someone post a bug report at WineHQ. I couldn't find any report of this issue as of yet. EVE Online entry here: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9971 Tried to register an account but have not received any mail from WineHQ yet. ---edit---- someone got to file bug before me, ignore me... :) BTW : Register an account at bugzilla at WineHQ in order to vote the bug up here: http://bugs.winehq.org/createaccount.cgi
Tola Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2008.09.30 18:44:00 - [9] Edited by: Tola on 30/09/2008 18:45:35 Same here. Wine 1.1.5, running with kubuntu 8.04 -> Classic Client is also affected.
Ancy Denaries Caldari Amarr Sisterhood of Galactic Sirens	Posted - 2008.09.30 19:02:00 - [10] Confirmed. Same effect here. Ubuntu 8.04 64bit, Wine 1.1.5. This completely screws up any chance of running two clients or any other side program. Balance is important, but you will always adapt to changing circumstances and you don't whine about stuff you can't change.
Crimson Calis Caldari Steel Soldier's	Posted - 2008.09.30 19:56:00 - [11] Can confirm it also, Debian unstable, wine-1.0
Aurix Lexico Slacker Industries	Posted - 2008.09.30 19:56:00 - [12] Dear CCP, Can you hire a part-time wine dev so things like this don't happen? Or something along those lines? Please? Sincerely, Adam
Kadesh Priestess Scalding Chill	Posted - 2008.09.30 20:13:00 - [13] Originally by: Tola Edited by: Tola on 30/09/2008 18:54:41 Edited by: Tola on 30/09/2008 18:47:11 Edited by: Tola on 30/09/2008 18:45:35 Same here. Wine 1.1.5, running with kubuntu 8.04 -> Classic Client is also affected. Classic client or premium with classic graphics?

CCP Atropos C C P	Posted - 2008.09.30 20:18:00 - [14] As CCP Casqade stated here, we do not officially support EVE under Wine. As such I can't make any promises as to this particular problem being resolved, unless it presents itself under Cedega.

Tola Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2008.09.30 20:22:00 - [15] Originally by: Kadesh Priestess Originally by: Tola Edited by: Tola on 30/09/2008 18:54:41 Edited by: Tola on 30/09/2008 18:47:11 Edited by: Tola on 30/09/2008 18:45:35 Same here. Wine 1.1.5, running with kubuntu 8.04 -> Classic Client is also affected. Classic client or premium with classic graphics? Premium client with classic graphics, didn't knew that there is a difference between classic and classic with premium clien.
Kadesh Priestess Scalding Chill	Posted - 2008.09.30 20:23:00 - [16] But it is there, lots of old bugs reproduced on one and didn't on another. Could smb check classic client (not premium with classic graphics)?
Tola Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2008.09.30 20:33:00 - [17] I'm allready downloading the classic client and will test it.
Baghtar Antares Shipyards Vanguard.	Posted - 2008.09.30 20:58:00 - [18] Edited by: Baghtar on 30/09/2008 20:58:35 I tested with the official client and didn't encounter this bug. Unfortunate for us since we are on our own then. =/
Aurix Lexico Slacker Industries	Posted - 2008.09.30 20:59:00 - [19] Confirming the bug persists with the classic only client. There is going to be a decent sized fleet battle between amarr/minmatar FW. I wish I could join, but not going to risk it with this whole "eve loses focus and your carrier dies lol" bug.
Fennicus Amarr Heracles.	Posted - 2008.09.30 21:01:00 - [20] Edited by: Fennicus on 30/09/2008 21:02:13 This even happens on the login screen, so it seems to rule out some of the UI changes (listed in the patch notes) causing it. :/ Quote: wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x0000006c at address 0x10045e45 (thread 001a), starting debugger... This is on a laptop with a GeForce Go 7400.
Lithia Tsanov	Posted - 2008.09.30 21:25:00 - [21] Problem confirmed on Intrepid Linux H2SO4 2.6.27-4-generic #1 SMP Wed Sep 24 01:29:06 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux wine-1.1.5 @As CCP Casqade stated here, we do not officially support EVE under Wine. As such I can't make any promises as to this particular problem being resolved, unless it presents itself under Cedega. Please, we beg you to start. Wine provides a far superior customer experience. Frank What is an OTAL?
Alaki Kant Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.30 22:31:00 - [22] Running eve in a 2nd X server does work, so that's a decent workaround for now.
Ryas Nia Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.09.30 23:00:00 - [23] dont forget to vote for this bug on wineHQ lets hope they can get this fixed because i cant live with the CCP client, i require Premium Scythe/Scimitar models, windowed mode, and multiple clients! http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15485
Aurix Lexico Slacker Industries	Posted - 2008.09.30 23:17:00 - [24] Edited by: Aurix Lexico on 30/09/2008 23:17:23 Second X server works, but it's going to be annoying having to setup teamspeak, then launching eve. And switching between X servers is not nearly as pretty as a rotating compiz cube. Ugh.
AleRiperKilt	Posted - 2008.09.30 23:17:00 - [25] running it in windowed mode seems to work. Full screen locked up but windowed through explorer has not crashed so far: taskset 0x1 env WINEPREFIX="/home/spectro/.wine" wine explorer /desktop=,1550x1050 "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\eve.exe" /end /LUA:OFF I am in Ubuntu 8.04, wine 1.1.5 --- "I live in Los Angeles, where driving is non-consensual pvp" - Arric Rohr
Beseiged Minmatar Rim Collection RC Kraftwerk.	Posted - 2008.10.01 00:47:00 - [26] Same problem here. This patch officially sucks. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected])
Tianhou	Posted - 2008.10.01 01:30:00 - [27] Edited by: Tianhou on 01/10/2008 01:35:32 N3o (Wine app Maintainer - Eve Premium) explain with details the fix to run 2 clients with Wine + ALT-TAB, details at : http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15485#c17
Debeus Amarr Princeps Corp T e r c i o s	Posted - 2008.10.01 02:12:00 - [28] Workaround here. -- Eve Online Premium with Ubuntu 8.04 http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID
Keyn Thror Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.01 03:47:00 - [29] Some update on mentioned workaround: You can create separate independent Wine Virtual Desktops to keep two EVE clients on different displays, for example: Quote: wine explorer /desktop=0,1024x768 "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\eve.exe" wine explorer /desktop=1,1024x768 "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\eve.exe" Of course, you can use any screen resolution you like, not only 1024x768.
Fennicus Amarr Heracles.	Posted - 2008.10.01 13:24:00 - [30] This is almost a nice solution for people who just require the one client running, and who have Gnome toolbars and Wine window titles taking up screen real-estate. I've found that one can solve the former problem through gconf-editor: navigate to apps/panel/toplevels, choose one of the named subcategories (e.g. "top_panel_screen0"). Tick "auto hide", change "auto_hide_size" to 1, and you'll probably want to play with the show/hide delay times too since the default values seem to be optimised for old grannies. This leaves 1-pixel wide bars at the top & bottom of your screen. You typically can't hide these, and there's a 5-year old Gnome "bug" asking for the developers to totally hide it or make it transparent. Now to get rid of the "Wine 1280x12024" screen title...
Woo Mi	Posted - 2008.10.01 13:46:00 - [31] Was about to switch from wine 1.1.3 to 1.1.5 when I found this thread. The wine explorer fix works for me with 2 clients on different virtual desktops. Had to set resolution to 1900x1100 to avoid having stuff disappear under the kde taskbar.
Kadesh Priestess Scalding Chill	Posted - 2008.10.01 20:09:00 - [32] Edited by: Kadesh Priestess on 01/10/2008 20:10:00 Originally by: Fennicus This is almost a nice solution for people who just require the one client running, and who have Gnome toolbars and Wine window titles taking up screen real-estate. I've found that one can solve the former problem through gconf-editor: navigate to apps/panel/toplevels, choose one of the named subcategories (e.g. "top_panel_screen0"). Tick "auto hide", change "auto_hide_size" to 1, and you'll probably want to play with the show/hide delay times too since the default values seem to be optimised for old grannies. This leaves 1-pixel wide bars at the top & bottom of your screen. You typically can't hide these, and there's a 5-year old Gnome "bug" asking for the developers to totally hide it or make it transparent. Now to get rid of the "Wine 1280x12024" screen title... I've just set resolution to currently used by desktop and disabled window decorations. This way wine virtual desktop covers whole screen (and EVE does that too). Naturally, this is fullscreen mode from user's point of view. I'm using gnome btw, and didn't set any panel parameters like auto-hide. Wine virtual desktop covers them out-of-the box
Woo Mi	Posted - 2008.10.01 21:05:00 - [33] Hmmm, went back to non-explorer method. I need to take care not to get my cursor of the screen with eve, but with the explorer/virtual desktop I seemed to get way more lockups. Maybe because of higher cpu load or something.
Kadesh Priestess Scalding Chill	Posted - 2008.10.01 21:10:00 - [34] I'm getting the same performance using one window as when using non-explorer setup. Are you running two or more clients? Smb on russian forums already reported that multi-client setups in virtual desktops really hurt performance.
harrkonin	Posted - 2008.10.02 14:14:00 - [35] I'm still getting the lockups when switching between apps. i guess I'll still have to play in windowed mode until wine gets it fixed. sucks because it cuts off the bottom of my screen.
ertnec	Posted - 2008.10.02 17:10:00 - [36] Same here too... using Wine 1.1.5 under Gentoo Linux... both Eve 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 cause these lockups. Windowed (wine) works fine, but fullscreen and windowed from eve itself does not. Also, I do not agree with being forced to use Cedega just for getting support, as its seriously outdated and poorly supported compared to Wine.
Skrunkle Gallente Dark Syde Exploration	Posted - 2008.10.02 17:47:00 - [37] SuSE 11.0 wine 1.1.0 (%:~/Desktop)- uname -a Linux thrash.often.lan 2.6.25.16-0.1-pae #1 SMP 2008-08-21 00:34:25 +0200 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux same issues as everyone else the Debeus fix works for now but it does give me a significant performance hit, as I have to run two accounts on this workstation. Subvert the dominant paradigm.
Mamede	Posted - 2008.10.02 23:50:00 - [38] well if we think about it. Now we have to use wine the way we are forced to use official client, with the "emulated" virtual window and in fullscreen. good thing is we still have to have one copy with wine and not do those moves or copies of ~/.cedega. I'm pretty sure wine folks will solve this problem(faster than cedega folks) will give us premium
harrkonin	Posted - 2008.10.03 03:15:00 - [39] thing is is that i can't get the cedega client to work worth a damn, lousy framerate.
Althus Treefingers Minmatar 17th Minmatar Tactical Wing	Posted - 2008.10.03 05:36:00 - [40] Edited by: Althus Treefingers on 03/10/2008 05:37:23 I'm in Ubuntu 8.04, Wine 1.0 I was having the above-mentioned issue, but am currently running EVE classic, windowed (1024x768) in emulated desktop mode. No problems no matter what I do with desktop switching and compiz fanciness. My FPS are down to about 30ish, though.
Katrina Bekers Gallente Hikage Corporation Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.10.03 12:50:00 - [41] <== Another brick in the wall of the crash-on-focus-switch reports. I know, I know. WINE is not officially supported by CCP. But going back to Cedega wrapper isn't officially supported by me. KDE can be instructed to "fullscrenize" a specific X11 window, removing decorations and putting it on top of everything else - including the task bar. A workaround (porkaround?) that doesn't satisfy, but works. --- Kate [HKG, PXF] "The game with voices, that you can't win, nor finish."
Beren Haderach Amarr Archon Industries	Posted - 2008.10.03 23:30:00 - [42] Originally by: Katrina Bekers <== Another brick in the wall of the crash-on-focus-switch reports. I know, I know. WINE is not officially supported by CCP. But going back to Cedega wrapper isn't officially supported by me. KDE can be instructed to "fullscrenize" a specific X11 window, removing decorations and putting it on top of everything else - including the task bar. A workaround (porkaround?) that doesn't satisfy, but works. Please guys, report this issue at appdb.winehq.org Without a bug report, it is not going to be fixed. It needs to be reported AND voted for it to be worked on.
Keyn Thror Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.04 17:26:00 - [43] Originally by: Baghtar From the "Eve under Linux /w wine": Originally by: Kadesh Priestess Filled in issue 15485, vote for it :) This issue was already reported. Keep voting to attract more attention to this problem!
Dihania Gallente SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.10.06 09:39:00 - [44] Same problem here. Premium client and graphics. Suse 10.3 and Wine 1.1.5 [hrhr] Sniggwaffe is recruiting. Visit channel "join sniggwaffe" in game.
deathlords	Posted - 2008.10.06 22:39:00 - [45] Originally by: CCP Atropos As CCP Casqade stated here, we do not officially support EVE under Wine. As such I can't make any promises as to this particular problem being resolved, unless it presents itself under Cedega. Cadega crashes on start. * Linux 2.6.26-1-amd64 * Debian Sid * nVidia Corporation C51PV [GeForce 6150] (rev a2) Wine is the only option that actually works, aside from the crappy ALSA sound support.
Wollari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.10.13 08:45:00 - [46] Originally by: CCP Atropos As CCP Casqade stated here, we do not officially support EVE under Wine. As such I can't make any promises as to this particular problem being resolved, unless it presents itself under Cedega. Before speaking that ccp do not support wine, please create a full functional and running client first. Wine supports non-english characters (like germans special chars) in chat, alt-tabbing and is performing better then the cegada tra.. aehm stuff. btw, i've also the same problem with the "<defunct>" Exefile process after switching workspace.
Jason Edwards	Posted - 2008.10.23 00:38:00 - [47] I dont really have a lockup or crash. It's just if I alt-tab... eve online stays on top after flickering to desktop for a fraction of a second. I would like the ability to alt-tab out of game every so often. ------------------------ "There was this bright flash of light - and now this egg shaped thing is on my screen - did I level up?"
Zylithi Caldari Interstellar Association of Alcohol Consumption	Posted - 2008.10.24 15:53:00 - [48] Confirmed as also occurring under Cedega: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=905996
Derek Medrana Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.10.24 21:35:00 - [49] 1.1.7 is out and the fullscreen issue hasn't been fixed as of yet.
Ravow Minmatar N'Th'Rack Squadron Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.10.31 20:06:00 - [50] --- Comment #38 from Anton Vorobyov 2008-10-31 15:03:26 --- Seems to be fixed in current git. I'll ask couple of my friends to check that and confirm.
Ravow Minmatar N'Th'Rack Squadron Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.10.31 20:39:00 - [51] --- Comment #39 from Anton Vorobyov 2008-10-31 15:27:37 --- Sorry, i'm wrong. But bug really didn't occur for couple minutes of intensive focus switching...
Derek Medrana Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.10.31 22:11:00 - [52] Originally by: Ravow --- Comment #39 from Anton Vorobyov 2008-10-31 15:27:37 --- Sorry, i'm wrong. But bug really didn't occur for couple minutes of intensive focus switching... Just to add, yer right. But on this system, the following occurred immediately on attempting to switch tasks: Git focus issue This forced a ctrl+alt+f1 to get to htop to kill exefile.exe. So for now, it appears that the bug is still there.

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