| Pages: [1] :: one page |
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Pygrus Tisuk
   |
Posted - 2008.10.01 22:18:00 -
[1]
So I've been in an MMO limbo for the last few months. Not really been playing anything. I've seen stuff about EVE before, but the insanely steep learning curve that i had read about really pushed me away. Since i needed something new i decided to give it a shot. I bought the full game and started to make my character. Did some research on character creation first and decided to make a mission runner. Got into the game and was just awestruck by how it looked, and i'm not on the premium graphics, CCP imo captured the vastness of space very well. So i started to do the tutorial, and about 45 minuted of fumbling with everything i finally finished it and started to do the 10 part quest. I was so happy when the agent gave me my shiny new Atron to fly around in. Stupid thing i did though was buy things for it from the market, while if i waited i would have gotten the stuff for free. I thought the storyline to the whole mission chain was pretty interesting. I finally finished the chain and got yet another new ship... think it's called an Incurus. I had a lot of money but had no idea what to start buying let alone what to start training. Decided to train science to lvl 3 (still waiting on it to finish) so i could train to use my implants to make training faster. I tryed to do a level 1 mission but ran into major difficulties because this one rat had rockets and i barely escaped with my life. So far this game is amazing and i can't wait to get deeper into it.
|
Jethro Jechonias
Ki Tech Industries
|
Posted - 2008.10.01 22:28:00 -
[2]
Welcome to Eve
These forums will likely be your best resource for overcoming the steep learning curve.
Here are some of the most useful guides for new players.
Don't try to force yourself to progress too fast. Bigger is not better, and unlike many other games out there, Eve is more of a slow burning game, where there is no destination, just the journey.
Feel free to ask questions if there is something that you don't understand. You will always be learning new stuff with this game.
|
Horchan
Gallente
|
Posted - 2008.10.01 22:53:00 -
[3]
Yep, welcome to EVE. Glad you're liking it.
The best advice I can give is keep asking questions. Try lurking in channels that answer lots of questions like Help channel and EVE University's channel (forget its proper name right now). The forums here are also great sources of knowledge.
My one other suggestion is learn to use paragraphs, these forum colors make large lengths of uninterrupted text really hard on the eyes.
---
DesuSigs |
Lord Zarcam
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
|
Posted - 2008.10.01 23:27:00 -
[4]
In my first 6 weeks playing I spent more time reading these forums then actually playing. The learning curve is tough for beginners, but things will get easier and most of it will start making since..... in a few months. 
Good Luck! Hang in there no matter how tough it gets, this game can be brutal!
|
Pygrus Tisuk
|
Posted - 2008.10.02 00:17:00 -
[5]
 Originally by: Horchan
Yep, welcome to EVE. Glad you're liking it.
The best advice I can give is keep asking questions. Try lurking in channels that answer lots of questions like Help channel and EVE University's channel (forget its proper name right now). The forums here are also great sources of knowledge.
My one other suggestion is learn to use paragraphs, these forum colors make large lengths of uninterrupted text really hard on the eyes.
Yea ill work on the paragraph thing, it is a strain on the eyes with all the jumbled text.
|
Juliette Leblanc
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
|
Posted - 2008.10.02 02:11:00 -
[6]
If you are unsure what to train, train the learning skills. It'll take a while to get them to 4+4 or 5+4, but it's worth it. Look at the stickies in the skill forum: the order in which you train them does make a huge difference.
Meanwhile study the forums and learn to make a good fitting. And then decide on the skills you need and make a good skillplan.
P.S.: I do approve your choice of training for implants too.
Originally by: CCP Prism X
In New Eden, EVE wins you.
|
Havok Dryke
The Scope
|
Posted - 2008.10.02 06:18:00 -
[7]
Edited by: Havok Dryke on 02/10/2008 06:18:06
Welcome to EVE.
Rules:
1. Trust no-one.
2. Don`t fly what you can`t afford to lose.
3. Low-security space is a deathzone for new pilots. Stay in 1.0 - 0.5.
4. Don`t take from a can that isn`t yours. This gives the can`s pilot the right to reduce you to ash.
5. Always keep your clone updated.
6. Scamming is not condemned by CCP, if you get scammed it`s essentially your fault. Be wary.
7. If it seems to good to be true, it probably is.
8. Never haul around large amounts of valuable items in a weak hauler. Make 2 or 3 trips, or train for the tougher ones.
Memorize these, and you`ll be fine 
Just remember that EVE is a really harsh place. Rule number 1 is number one on the list because it`s the most important one in EVE.
---
Originally by: El'tar
I WOULD WARRIOR FOR WOMAN BELONG TO ME
|
Liberator 1
Gallente
Tribal Liberation Force
|
Posted - 2008.10.02 08:00:00 -
[8]
Welcome to hell/Eve.
No seriously, have a great time, try and join a nice corp, the support you can get as a fairly new player is invaluable.
Good luck !
L1 
-------------------------------------------
ôIf you are in a spaceship that is traveling at the speed of light, and you turn on the headlights, does anything happen?ö
------------------------- |
Dawink
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
|
Posted - 2008.10.02 16:33:00 -
[9]
Originally by: Havok Dryke
Edited by: Havok Dryke on 02/10/2008 06:18:06
Welcome to EVE.
Rules:
1. Trust no-one.
2. Don`t fly what you can`t afford to lose.
3. Low-security space is a deathzone for new pilots. Stay in 1.0 - 0.5.
4. Don`t take from a can that isn`t yours. This gives the can`s pilot the right to reduce you to ash.
5. Always keep your clone updated.
6. Scamming is not condemned by CCP, if you get scammed it`s essentially your fault. Be wary.
7. If it seems to good to be true, it probably is.
8. Never haul around large amounts of valuable items in a weak hauler. Make 2 or 3 trips, or train for the tougher ones.
For the most part these rules are true. But i disagree with 3 mainly because when i was new i flew around in a Incurcus (nano) and was fine, i did it on week 3 of the game yes not a baby new but still new.
6. You can scam in game (no out of gaming for accounts or anything) but dont be a sleaze ball.
 Some one said this up top but it cant be stressed enough READ THE FORUMS for HOURS ive read the forums so much i think my eyes are gonna bleed and i think ive studied for this game more then ive studied for my Classes.
Fly safe, if you want to chat add Dawink ill talk you through some stuff i know(not a vet at all). But its always nice to have a flying partner.
|
Aioa
Planetary Assault Systems
|
Posted - 2008.10.02 18:18:00 -
[10]
Edited by: Aioa on 02/10/2008 18:19:48
Originally by: Dawink
dont be a sleaze ball.
This is not a rule!
edit: But I agree with your first point, Your first few weeks are a good time to pay your first visits to low-sec. just don't do it in your best battlecruiser that you just spent all your ISK on 
--
|
Memio
Monkees with Gunz
|
Posted - 2008.10.02 19:33:00 -
[11]
As far as skill training is concerned then EveMon can be your best friend for planning the right skills to pick.
Eve Fitting Tool or EFT as it's more commonly known can, and probably will, save you a lot of time and ISK on ship fittings as well.
Welcome to the deep black.
______________________
Killboard |
Toshiro GreyHawk
|
Posted - 2008.10.02 19:53:00 -
[12]
For your low level missions, fit long range weapons, a good after burner and Kite the rats along behind you, killing them as the try to close. Don't Orbit one of them. That will let his buddies swarm you.
Orbiting is for use by a smaller ship against a bigger one so it's guns can't track you.
It's unfortunate but the basic Tutorial teaches you to orbit instead of kite. Of course ... if you're Galente - you start off with a blaster in that rookie ship instead of a rail gun like the Caldari ... not that the short range of that Civilian rail gun makes much difference.
You can also do the Tutorial Missions and 10 missions from the Event Agent for the other schools as well. This will get you some more experience with the game, some more easy missions, a full set of Attribute Implants and some more ships.
|
Pygrus Tisuk
|
Posted - 2008.10.02 21:51:00 -
[13]
by kiting you mean using the stay away Xmeters button right?
|
Toshiro GreyHawk
|
Posted - 2008.10.02 23:54:00 -
[14]
Edited by: Toshiro GreyHawk on 02/10/2008 23:58:36
Originally by: Pygrus Tisuk
by kiting you mean using the stay away Xmeters button right?
NO.
What you do, is to just fly the ship yourself. Yes - this means lots of double clicking in the direction you want to go. Also, it means YOU have to monitor your speed. If you click in the middle of the blue speed indicator on your central control set it will set the speed. You can do that with your afterburners on or off. You have a setting in your control panel that will show various forms of the enemies speed. One is velocity, the others are angular and transversal velocity. You can also just watch what they are doing and watch the distance they are from you on the over view. If they start closing the range then you want to go faster. If they are getting to far away you want to slow down. Simply turning your afterburners on and off is another way to regulate your speed.
You also need to watch your capacitor. Especially when you're new and don't have all your Navigation & Engineering Skills trained up.
When you first approach the rats come in at an angle. Don't head right for them. If they are in little clumps - don't go after the middle clump, take out the clumps on the side first. Head towards these guys slightly to the outside of their position then turn away towards clear space when they start targeting you. You want to be shooting right over your stern at them. So notice the angle of the shots fired by your weapons and adjust your course until they are shooting over your stern. In Naval Warfare - you don't want that as it would mask your forward batteries - but in EVE each module is split into a battery of two gun mounts, one of which can always fire at the enemy (you can't make them both fire as it will just alternate between them at the same RoF as if you were only using one of them).
There are two things you're aiming for:
1) Because you have fitted long range guns to keep away from them, to cut down on their angular velocity so these slow traversal guns can hit them better. If you have missiles - they never miss - so that's not a factor BUT even though you will always hit them (if they are in range which is computed by the missiles speed and flight time) you may not hurt them if they are faster than the expansion rate of the explosion (which is BS but that's the game). Anyway, want to cut down on the amount of traversing your slow turrets have to do. If you are orbiting them and/or they are orbiting you - those turrets have to traverse a lot. An alternative to Kiting the enemy is Chasing them. Here, you can use the approach command to keep you pointed at them but be aware that using this command will make your ship STOP when the thing it is pointed at blows up.
2) Next, each weapons combination of Gun and Ammunition - has a sweet spot. There's a certain range, give or take a few thousand meters, at which your weapon and the ammo it is loaded with will be most effective. Your skills are also a factor in this range. You want to keep the enemy in this kill zone as much as possible. You could try to do that with the Keep at Distance command but that will make you turn every now and again moving in a stair step pattern away from the enemy - that turning will hurt the angle of your fire and slow you down. YOU are smarter than the computer. Don't let the computer fly your ship any more than it is helping you to do that.
The simple version of a lot of this is - what is that message you're getting in the middle of the screen saying?
If it is yellow and says you're getting hits with every shot - that's good.
If it is white and says you're missing - then you need to change something.
|
Pygrus Tisuk
|
Posted - 2008.10.03 00:02:00 -
[15]
I think i get what your trying to say, ill try it out and see how it works.
|
Khaellek
|
Posted - 2008.10.03 21:28:00 -
[16]
Handy advice. Thanks!
|
| |
|
| Pages: [1] :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |