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Beltantis Torrence
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Posted - 2008.10.03 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Trist Ian Edited by: Trist Ian on 03/10/2008 02:37:42 It would also make having a capital very hard. Since u would have to rely on everybody else to help u move around. Personally it would be completely dumb. And CCP would also loose alot of players and money.
To the op. Slap yourself!
You automatically fail for misspelling a 4 letter word.
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Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2008.10.03 20:49:00 -
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I would actually support the op, seems ok to me. but then again, i don't really use more than one character and i don't want any cap ships.
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Malcanis
RuffRyders Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.03 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn No alts would overall probably improve EVE, make it a far more interesting game.
But it would also make it too time consuming to do any meaningful amount of anything in, so I'd quit.
Yeah it'd be the best game that I admired other people for playing.
Also: EggFin is too good for us. He should be, I dunno, dying for our sins or something. |
Demitria Fernir
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.10.03 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Vabjekf Senseless rambling and theories based on Corn Flakes chaotic disposal in a bowl of iced tea and coca cola regarding Markets random price change, Pirates, low sec, Ambulation, Iskes, Carebears, Lasers and lvl 4 mission runners.
the Babelfish isn't really that effective on this forums :(
10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101001 I will Conquer My Signature Somewhere in the future 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101001 |
Joskken Inx
PURE Legion Pure.
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Posted - 2008.10.03 21:16:00 -
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So, you want Eve to be whomever has the most free time to be the ones "allowed" to use caps? Not only that, you do know that having a "falcon alt" serves no real good on the same account as your "main".
Dude, you're just stirring shit. Thanks for sharing your internal monologue with us, can you just stick to tucking your junk between your legs and telling the mirror how much you would have sex with yourself?
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.10.03 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Vabjekf You know I like you. You are a pretty awesome. If i was zeba i would probably not want to not be zeba anymore too!
But I want to be zeba
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Opertone
Caldari SIEGE. United Legion
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Posted - 2008.10.03 21:41:00 -
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yes, yes, kill the alts!
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Vabjekf
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Posted - 2008.10.03 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Joskken Inx So, you want Eve to be whomever has the most free time to be the ones "allowed" to use caps?
No i want caps either removed or forced to be a corp asset and not a personal one. (multiple cap pilots, multiple caps, if corp needs a cap someone who can fly it hops in it)
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Not only that, you do know that having a "falcon alt" serves no real good on the same account as your "main".
That all depends how you use a falcon alt. If you enjoy flying an ewar support role in a gang a falcon alt could be a fun thing to have! If you just use said alt to help you get your main more killmails to artificially inflate your epeen then you can go straight to... Dis. ^___^
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Sarin Adler
Caldari Dark Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2008.10.03 22:04:00 -
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Edited by: Sarin Adler on 03/10/2008 22:07:10
Originally by: Vabjekf
Then how about this. 1 Account per person. 1 character slot per account. Paying extra gets you extra character slots. You can only log onto one at a time, but the other slots can train simultaniously with each other.
People can see what characters are on the same account as any of these characters.
Yes, i am clearly most understanding and compassionate. I can understand the desire to have multiple characters given eves unique character advancement modle. However dual boxing is the same as macroing. Observe.
One account with a macro. Is a person getting benefit from an account with out having to do anything.
Two accounts dual boxing, is a single person getting benefit from an account with out having to do anything to one of the accounts (because you are only playing one at a time, even if you are switching quickly between them)
Obviously the same thing. Both involve a character giving a person an advantage with out them having to be playing it.
I think this is more realistic and could be done if CCP wanted to.
/signed
p.s: my signature was written BEFORE this thread
edit: I have alts but to my credit I have them in the same corp and rarelly dualbox with them. Unfotunatlly due to eve's skill system I think the possibility to have multiple accounts shoud stay (plus is profitable for CCP), but on the other side soemthing must be done about how alts brake the game really. ---
Alts, the root of all evil. |
Aphoticus
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Posted - 2008.10.03 22:19:00 -
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Edited by: Aphoticus on 03/10/2008 22:20:01 I would second the notion.
I believe one character, one account would add a dimension to Eve that is sorely lacking.
I have always been against multi-charactering, meta-gaming.
Just my two-cents. This is my Main (and it is older than the exclamation point).
And no, you can't have my stuff. |
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Malcanis
RuffRyders Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.03 22:25:00 -
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Freedoms will be abused, therefore freedom cannot be permitted. |
Celin Nieve
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Posted - 2008.10.03 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Vabjekf There would be no more threat of 'alt spies'. Newer players would have an easier time intigrating into the community and not run off after a month or so. 0.0 would open up for neutral characters since the general trust level of the game has gone up. They would bring trade. There would be empire prices in 0.0. The extra movement between high sec and 0.0 would populate low sec and pirates would have more targets. The extra activity in general in low sec would make it safer bringing more mission runners to low sec and even miners.
There would be no falcon alts. No probe alts. No forum alts. If you wanted to scam you would do it on your main.
Alts are what kills low sec. Alts are what destroys pvp. Alts are what screw up politics.
Just get rid of every single alt. I don't care how. Ask god to do it. But every alt should die.
You have to stop here and ask yourself: 1. would this make the game more fun for majority of players? 2. would this make CCP more or less revenue? 3. if you answered no to both of these questions, why should ccp do this?
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Alonyshka Ghini
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Posted - 2008.10.03 22:26:00 -
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CCP are a business, they are here to make money, if they fail to make money then they go out of business and no more eve. Its standard business economics that its easier to get your existing customers to consume more than it is to acquire new customers, hence all the supermarket "buy one get one free" offers and power of 2. CCP are never going to restrict how many accounts each player has since quite frankly they are in the business of selling subscriptions not utopian idealism.
whether good bad or indifferent to the game CCP will sell as many subscriptions as people will pay for, and lets say they implement your ideal and lose 100K subscriptions that were actually 100K peoples power of 2 alts, then they start making a loss, job cuts, expansion packs slim down, equipment is downgraded, lag returns. CCP goes bust, game packs up.
But since you have such a good plan on how to replace the lost subscriptions then im sure CCP would be happy to give you the CMO job and you can explain to them how to get the revenue back you will cost them with your clownshoes plan.
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Vabjekf
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Posted - 2008.10.03 22:34:00 -
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Edited by: Vabjekf on 03/10/2008 22:34:40 My response to both of you above this post (1 up and 2 up) already exists further up this thread. |
Duncan Bannatyne
The Sky Is The Limit
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Posted - 2008.10.03 22:36:00 -
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CCP would lose about 20/30% (+) of there revenue..
Won't happen. |
Vabjekf
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Posted - 2008.10.03 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: Duncan Bannatyne CCP would lose about 20/30% (+) of there revenue..
Won't happen.
Oh you! |
Bohoba
Caldari HolyKnights
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Posted - 2008.10.03 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: Duncan Bannatyne CCP would lose about 20/30% (+) of there revenue..
Won't happen.
hehe I think it would be 50-75% :)
we are all alts
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Kransthow
Sage Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.03 22:56:00 -
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It's impossible to do, so why even bother talking about it |
Dire Radiant
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Posted - 2008.10.03 23:07:00 -
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I rather like my additional accounts. They let me experience many more facets of the game than I would be able to if I had just one account. I enjoy the different alliances/corps and activities that they take part in. They dont really interact at all.
Their extra character slots tho, they definitely interact with the other accounts. So - Limiting character slots to one per account. Sure. I'd give that a try and it could be done. On the other hand - limiting accounts to one per person is impossible, so I'm not going to bother discussing it.
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Sansha'Seventia
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Posted - 2008.10.04 00:28:00 -
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im schizophrenic and need alts to fulfill the 8 sides to my RL character.
this suggestion infringes my human rights.
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Vabjekf
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Posted - 2008.10.04 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Sansha'Seventia im schizophrenic and need alts to fulfill the 8 sides to my RL character.
this suggestion infringes my human rights.
Sounds to me like you are a crazy, crazy, and crazies have no rights. Are you pretty? Then i may have use for you... If not then its off to the biomass converter!
Everyone else is making the same arguments that others have made before them and I have already addressed. |
Blackend Sky
Minmatar The Paratwa FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.10.04 01:23:00 -
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Well..one acc per person, and EVE would really be a dark cold harsh place. I think the overall quality would skyrocket as ppl have to plan a bit ahead on what to do next.I cant mine and build stuff,why do i have to waste cash if i have corp/ally mates who can do and me take part of their knowlege and tasks? To OP:You are indeed my Jesus of all EVE
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Anneka Tong
B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm
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Posted - 2008.10.04 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kathryn Dougans
Originally by: Vabjekf The girls used to think i was strange throwing quarters at them, but it helped me learn how people work. (you have to put the coins in the slots and then turn the little thing and the egg pops out)
Wait, what?
I have to quote my ceo and friend here.
What?
You inserted coins into girls, turned what? and an egg pops out?
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.10.04 02:41:00 -
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Can CCP show us how many mains there are vs how many alts?
I'd be curious to see how many unique billing methods (against name/address) they have.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.04 04:21:00 -
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Ok, so allow me to translate your absurd request:
"Make alts more difficult, while rewarding people for exploiting the holes in the rules."
Making an alt under your system would be trivially easy, so in the end you accomplish absolutely nothing.
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Vabjekf
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Posted - 2008.10.04 04:22:00 -
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Originally by: Blackend Sky
To OP:You are indeed my Jesus of all EVE
I have to admit, that this was my goal all along.
Originally by: Anneka Tong
Originally by: Kathryn Dougans
Originally by: Vabjekf The girls used to think i was strange throwing quarters at them, but it helped me learn how people work. (you have to put the coins in the slots and then turn the little thing and the egg pops out)
Wait, what?
I have to quote my ceo and friend here.
What?
You inserted coins into girls, turned what? and an egg pops out?
???
No no silly. People! Girls aren't people. ^__^
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Arvald
Caldari Ninjas N Pirates
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Posted - 2008.10.04 04:24:00 -
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Originally by: Shinzann
Although I do like the idea of scammers using their main.
i use my main
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Kyra Felann
Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2008.10.04 04:27:00 -
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I agree that there should be no alts. Each person should have one character.
But it'll never, ever happen.
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Almori
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Posted - 2008.10.04 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Die.
This. |
Almori
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Posted - 2008.10.04 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Vabjekf
Originally by: Trist Ian Edited by: Trist Ian on 03/10/2008 02:37:42 It would also make having a capital very hard. Since u would have to rely on everybody else to help u move around. Personally it would be completely dumb. And CCP would also loose alot of players and money.
To the op. Slap yourself!
Capitals were a bad idea.
They should remove them from the game. And if they are kept in. you SHOULD require constant 24/7 support to fly them. They are after all supposed to be a corp investment, not a personal one. Right?
Like you care about others right? Selfish bastard.
As predicted the only people who argue my blatantly obvious truths are those who don't want to lose their personal pocket carrier fleet.
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