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Kikia Truzhari
Teraa Matar
White-Lotus
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Posted - 2012.03.30 03:23:00 -
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The Amarr-Minmatar War has raged for a very long time, many millions have died in the struggle we face for our existence. Yet still, the empire persists in its evil ways. Billions of our people remain shackled, our borders, homes, and even existences, remain threatened.
On April 27th, the start of spring, the Sebiestor New Year, we gather in the southern islands of Mikramurka to turn the wheel of time; to respect our brave warriors, honour our fallen, and celebrate our triumphs. The festival will open, on Friday the 27th, and will continue until Sunday the 29th, culminating in the Vanquishing of the Devourer, where we will destroy the evil devouring spirit of the empire in ritual. During the time, many smaller rituals, ceremonies, and celebrations will be performed, and we are hoping to make it truly, an event to remember.
Set on the remote island of Toladr Mahon, off the coast of southern mikramurka, the festival will be able to sprawl across the grassy highland moors. Plenty of space will be provided to bring in shuttles, vehicles, RVs, and tents. Admission is free of charge, and many local shopkeepers will be operating food stalls, shops, and venues
Those interested in attending should contact me by mail at any time between now and the event, so that invitations can be sent.
Those wishing to attend at the last minute should come to prep area in the city ((channel)) Khadvern, Mikramurka where those deemed safe to invite can be checked in and catch the ferry to the festival, but pre-registration is preferred.
We prefer to not have shuttles coming and going constantly, so shuttles will be grounded at the site between friday evening, and monday morning, the ferry will provide round trips to Khadsvern for those who need to return to space, or pick up supplies.
I hope to see many matari in attendance, I believe it will be a wonderful celebration of our people. |
Arkady Sadik
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Electus Matari
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Posted - 2012.03.30 06:19:00 -
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Kikia Truzhari wrote:On April 27th, the start of spring, the Sebiestor New Year Where did you get that idea? |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
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Electus Matari
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Posted - 2012.03.30 06:29:00 -
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I am Sebiestor and where I come from, New Year starts on 1.1., with celebrations usually for the two weeks before, and there is another important yearly date at midsummer (date varies a little from place to place, end of 06 or beginning of 07). Some folks we have close ties with count Years from harvest, too, but we never were that rural. Customs sound familiar though; new year is a time for remembering the death and your Vanquishing sounds like what I know as Renouncing.
For the record, if I have my geography right, my folks are a little way further north from where this is taking place. |
Boma Airaken
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
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Posted - 2012.03.30 07:15:00 -
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Sounds very intriguing. I would love to attend and observe if you would be so kind as to permit it. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
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Electus Matari
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Posted - 2012.03.30 07:24:00 -
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Yes, because currently you, Airaken, are exactly what every Matari would want in their celebration of Renouncing the God of slavery.
No, wait. Not really. |
Boma Airaken
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
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Posted - 2012.03.30 08:03:00 -
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Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:Yes, because currently you, Airaken, are exactly what every Matari would want in their celebration of Renouncing the God of slavery.
No, wait. Not really.
You speak far faster than you are apparently able to think, Elsebeth. It is known and it has been proven that I abhor slavery, and that I utterly despise the heretical god-emperor and its blasphemous governmental manifestation.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
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Electus Matari
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Posted - 2012.03.30 08:04:00 -
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Actions speak louder than words. |
Ava Starfire
Teraa Matar
White-Lotus
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Posted - 2012.03.30 11:47:00 -
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Boma Airaken wrote:Sounds very intriguing. I would love to attend and observe if you would be so kind as to permit it.
After your admission of the murder of 20000 of our brothers and sisters, I feel quite secure in saying that, no, you are not welcome.
I will make time to attend, though as Elsebeth says, activities with Clan will pull me away for part of the time.
I hope to see many there. |
Kikia Truzhari
Teraa Matar
White-Lotus
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Posted - 2012.03.30 12:25:00 -
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Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:I am Sebiestor and where I come from, New Year starts on 1.1., with celebrations usually for the two weeks before, and there is another important yearly date at midsummer (date varies a little, end of 06 or beginning of 07). Some folks we have close ties with count Years from harvest, too, but we never were that rural. Customs sound familiar though; new year is a time for remembering the death and your Vanquishing sounds like what I know as Renouncing.
For the record, if I have my geography right, my folks are a little way further north from where this is taking place.
Have a good festival. Probably won't be able to make it. And my folks would kill me if I went to yours and missed midsummer at home, which I was planning to do... :P
Oh, its not over midsummer, its during the spring festival to welcome father pator for his time of power. I know all the clans don't celebrate the new year on those dates, but my grandmothers does and a lot of the local rural farming clans do, and it makes sense to me to have the day during a time when the world is rejuvenating and things are being born and coming alive. But if you couldn't make it, or could only attend part of the time, that's of course understandable.
Quote:Sounds very intriguing. I would love to attend and observe if you would be so kind as to permit it.
*She laughs, finding the idea of Boma attending simply hilarious. After choking back the laughter her face falls completely flat and deadpan*
Haha, No. |
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2012.03.30 14:19:00 -
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I'd say let Boma show up. After all, once out of pod he's just another piece of meat that could be perforated repeatedly with antimatter rounds from a blaster pistol.
Not that I'd be in favor of such a thing. That wouldn't be in keeping with the spirit of the celebration. Just making a casual observation.
What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand. |
Kikia Truzhari
Teraa Matar
White-Lotus
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Posted - 2012.03.30 14:21:00 -
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That is true. we could just escort him off his ship, hang him from a few posts, and see how many hits from a club he can take before his insides fall out.
Maybe next year we can add that in. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
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Electus Matari
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Posted - 2012.03.30 14:25:00 -
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I hear there's some stuff on the eastern shores where they used to ritually torture and freeze raiders to death as part of New Year, which was for them in winter. Maybe you could learn from them?
(Probably just an evil rumour though. No offense to easterners meant.) |
Astrid Stjerna
Teraa Matar
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Posted - 2012.03.30 15:49:00 -
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Boma Airaken wrote:Sounds very intriguing. I would love to attend and observe if you would be so kind as to permit it.
Bome, the other day on the Summit channel I called you 'delusional'; I can see tnow that I was mistaken.
You're not delusional.
You're downright insane.
I can't get rid of my darn signature!-á Oh, wait.... |
Safai
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
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Posted - 2012.03.30 16:57:00 -
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Kikia Truzhari wrote:Quote:Sounds very intriguing. I would love to attend and observe if you would be so kind as to permit it.
*She laughs, finding the idea of Boma attending simply hilarious. After choking back the laughter her face falls completely flat and deadpan*Haha, No.
In lieu of the Zhayedan's presence, which is clearly non-negotiable, would the hosts be opposed to my attendance of this festival?
I assure you this is purely in the interest of anthropological education. It has been a desire of mine for some years to visit a homeworld of the vast Matari people: this is an ideal opportunity. Capsuleers who have interacted with me in person can testify to my meek and docile nature. It is certainly not my intention to incite detestation or abhorrence during a culturally significant event. Clearly, you understand the position that would place me in. I can guarantee my best behavior.
Thank you in advance for your consideration. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2012.03.30 16:58:00 -
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You Seeker guys are hilarious. Do you really not see the connections here? Do you think you can do anything in space and still have everyone let you in their events "in the interest of anthropological study"? We are not a quaint people with cute customs that you can come and observe like an animal in the zoo, while you put other animals like us down "out of mercy". |
Arkady Sadik
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Electus Matari
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:06:00 -
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Safai wrote:I assure you this is purely in the interest of anthropological education. That is very considerate of you, but rest assured, IGS is a perfectly sufficient venue to study you. |
Safai
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:21:00 -
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Your sarcasm is not lost on me, Mister Sadik, but experiencing something in the flesh is vastly different than studying from a text resource. My request was made in good faith and manner, please extend me the same courtesy if denying the request. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:26:00 -
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It's not Commander Sadik's to grant or deny. Nor mine. We are in no way related to the event organizing clans. |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
392
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:43:00 -
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I would attend out of support for my friends, but I have slight reservations. Before I extend my request to join the celebrations, I have a few things I'd request to be clarified.
The Original Post described it as a celebration of the lives lost and sacrifices made for the Matari people. This is of course wonderful. What makes me unsure if my attendance would be appropriate is where it speaks of vanquishing the spirit of the Empire.
I'd like more information on this part. As someone without a vested issue with the Empire, I'm not sure how appropriate it would be for me to partake in that ritual, especially since I also offer the hand of peace to Amarr as well as Minmatar. |
Kikia Truzhari
Teraa Matar
White-Lotus
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:57:00 -
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Safai wrote:Kikia Truzhari wrote:Quote:Sounds very intriguing. I would love to attend and observe if you would be so kind as to permit it.
*She laughs, finding the idea of Boma attending simply hilarious. After choking back the laughter her face falls completely flat and deadpan*Haha, No. In lieu of the Zhayedan's presence, which is clearly non-negotiable, would the hosts be opposed to my attendance of this festival? I assure you this is purely in the interest of anthropological education. It has been a desire of mine for some years to visit a homeworld of the vast Matari people: this is an ideal opportunity. Capsuleers who have interacted with me in person can testify to my meek and docile nature. It is certainly not my intention to incite detestation or abhorrence during a culturally significant event. Clearly, you understand the position that would place me in. I can guarantee my best behavior. Thank you in advance for your consideration.
Were you to have shown any prior interest in the affairs of tribal society your request may have been considered, but prior to this point, I have not seen you show any curiosity at all. This makes me highly suspicious you must understand. I believe we will need to talk further if this is something you really wish to pursue. |
Thgil Goldcore
Advenus Classem
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:59:00 -
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Celebrations relating to breaking a peace treaty and murdering millions, throwing the entire cluster into an un-needed war which will kill untold billions...
Very poor taste. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
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Electus Matari
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Posted - 2012.03.30 18:01:00 -
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We did the Renouncing all through the peace too. And before.
If it comes as a surprise to you that the Evil God and opposing him feature strongly in Matari mythology, I assure you that it is not a new invention, and as such can hardly be blamed for the state of the cluster. |
Thgil Goldcore
Advenus Classem
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Posted - 2012.03.30 18:25:00 -
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Well I guess if those genocidal tenancies are a tradition its ok then. Carry on then, don't let me bother you. |
Safai
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
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Posted - 2012.03.30 18:31:00 -
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Kikia Truzhari wrote:Were you to have shown any prior interest in the affairs of tribal society your request may have been considered, but prior to this point, I have not seen you show any curiosity at all. This makes me highly suspicious you must understand. I believe we will need to talk further if this is something you really wish to pursue.
This is a fully understandable position and I respect your skepticism. My heart is not unmoved by the trials your people have been put throughGÇöthough I admit there is still much history I am still learningGÇöand I do feel the plight of the Matari is something that could only be ignored by those of the most reprehensible morality.
However, I feel continuing this discourse in public will inevitably lead to prejudice and comments in poor taste, so we shall have a private discussion on the matter sometime in the near future. |
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
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Posted - 2012.03.30 19:35:00 -
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Thgil Goldcore wrote:Well I guess if those genocidal tenancies are a tradition its ok then. Carry on then, don't let me bother you.
I have no idea where you're getting "genocidal tendencies" out of this celebration of a new year, and I doubt anyone else does either.
But, of course, in that vein, apparently slavery being a tradition makes it okay. 
The logic works both ways, Thiggy. If being a tradition doesn't make "genocidal tendencies" okay, then it doesn't make slavery okay either - and some might argue that slavery is a genocidal tendency, albeit a slow-acting one.
That aside, sounds like the celebrations should be a lot of fun for those lucky enough to go. Good luck with your preparations. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
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Electus Matari
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Posted - 2012.03.30 19:38:00 -
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Oh, I am sure the ritual only speaks of getting rid of the Evil God, not getting rid of all His followers after He's been dealt with. |
Thgil Goldcore
Advenus Classem
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Posted - 2012.03.30 20:09:00 -
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I keep wondering why you address me as Thiggy. Typically only my closest friends and family do so... its a little disconcerting.
I guess I shouldn't get into arms over such a thing, being as trivial as it is. Curious when you decided it was appropriate though.
Regardless, I have spent far too much time on the front-line dealing with republic solders to know very well that if given the chance they would slay every son and daughter of Amarr if they only could. One constant between republic forces is how much raw hate they feel. Even this festival is about hate, for Amarr culture and way of life. I can very easily point out the damage done to planets by the elder attack. More than a few non-holder residences and commercial buildings (and naturally the people inside) where reduced to ash.
Its funny, I don't feel such emotions of hate towards the Minmatar people. Rather the contrary, there are many who are quite honorable and deserve to be recognized more than they have. I can point to almost my entire stock of servants and it fills me with pride knowing how well the serve me and the cluster as a whole. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2012.03.30 20:23:00 -
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Welcome to a war.
There will be warriors on both sides who would commit genocide if they had the means. There will also be people on both sides that are honorable in their own way. |
Arkady Sadik
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Electus Matari
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Posted - 2012.03.30 20:33:00 -
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It's always amusing that the followers of the only empire to ever have actually committed genocide are so quick to see threats of genocide from others.
Let's hope your fears do not come true, and your enemies treat you better than you treat them. |
Gosakumori Noh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.30 20:35:00 -
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If I might interject for a moment, I had not previously been aware the Matari recognized an "Evil God." I fully admit that this is in no small part due to my myopic fixation upon the more shall-we-say-"earthy" totemic practices of Matar and her environs - particularly the bacchanals of bouncy Sebiestor football teams in my employ.
Is this "Evil God" a member of the indigenous Matari pantheon?
It seems contrary to the mechanic of tribal religion for there to be an overarching force of "Evil." My first reaction, of course, was to imagine that this "Evil God" is intended to be the God of Amarr - but quaint moral titles aside, introducing such a concept into the native religion has significant cultural implications. |
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