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Arithron
Gallente Trade Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.05 19:27:00 -
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It's clear from the documents that CSM members are expected to follow high standards of behaviour at all times. Getting oneself forum-banned should be enough to get oneself removed from the CSM, as it's pretty hard to discuss and interact in Jita hall etc without the ability to post! I'd also suggest that the actions that resulted in the forum-banning probably don't reflect well on the CSM. All organisations have the 'bring into disrepute' clause for removal from office (I'd lose my job!).
Take care,
Arithron
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Arithron
Gallente
Gallente Trade Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.06 20:19:00 -
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Depending on the CSM member, and what alliance (if any) they are in, ejection via CSM candidate votes could be just as bad!
A forum ban could be looked at by CCP (not forum admin) first, the CSM informed and some reasoning given (ie, serious breach/not serious breach). The CSM could then vote, CCP be informed of the wishes of the CSM, and ultimately someone in CCP to take responsibility for a final decision.
A forum ban would entail some warnings first, plus the CSM member would not be able to interact with players via the forum (which I'd say is a pretty important duty). If CSM members are aware of the consequences of actions beforehand, then choose to act in unprofessional ways, I'd say they had fair warning.
Take care,
Arithron
Better to be a live dog than a dead lion... |
Arithron
Gallente
Gallente Trade Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.06 20:26:00 -
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Upon reflection, and in danger of opening another can of worms...
What about removal of a CSM member by vote for dereliction of duty?
The definition of duty could be decided (a commitment agreement by CSM members) at the start of a CSM term.
Take care,
Arithron
Better to be a live dog than a dead lion... |
Arithron
Gallente
Gallente Trade Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.09 22:59:00 -
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It's only not required by CSM members if they choose to not interact and discuss/evolve issues and ideas in the Jita park or Assembly hall forums.I suggest that this interaction is one of the important functions that CSM members should undertake.
The forums are where issues for the CSM meeting agenda must be posted to get requisite number of votes or CSM member support. I find it hard to follow your reasoning that posting in the forums is not needed by a CSM member....
Take care,
Arithron
Better to be a live dog than a dead lion... |
Arithron
Gallente
Gallente Trade Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.09 23:17:00 -
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Actually, issues and ideas posted on other forums, AFAIK, aren't binding on the CSM and can't be put onto an agenda unless first posted in the Assembly Hall for 7 days, and then getting a CSM support (posted) or 5% of voter's approval.
However, if you feel that interaction with posters on issues and ideas in the Assembly hall (or Jita park) is not needed as a Player representative on the CSM, fair enough.
We just have obviously diametrically-opposed viewpoints on what CSM members should be doing...
Take care,
Arithron
Better to be a live dog than a dead lion... |
Arithron
Gallente
Gallente Trade Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.09 23:35:00 -
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I agree that other forums are valuable for CSM members to garner player opinions and the like. However, I must have read your post above before editing...I took it to mean that you didn't think it was needed for a CSM member to interact and post on issues in the Assembly hall at all (despite this being the place that issues must be posted to gather support).
If this isn't what you meant, accept my apologies.
I can see clearly that you are now posting on the forums on eve-o...
Take care,
Arithron
Better to be a live dog than a dead lion... |
Arithron
Gallente
Gallente Trade Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.09 23:49:00 -
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You should post here more often! Many of your ideas are interesting and show effort and prior thought. In the very least they get discussion going and other player's views and input.
I look forward to working with you on the CSM! (hopefully not from the position of alternate again)
Take care,
Arithron
Better to be a live dog than a dead lion... |
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