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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.08 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus Given that you cannot apply to be on the CSM if you have had a ban in the past, that seems not unreasonable.
This is not true. Jade has had a full permanent forum ban in the past and was allowed to participate. There was a cut off period, where, if you had had a ban that was not due to an EULA violation or "egregious violation of the forum rules"[not an exact quote] you were given amnesty. This amnesty carried over into the CSM process.
Re: Darius. Oftentimes they will not discuss it with the person in question either. I have received warning and other moderation and not once heard back asking for clarification or protesting the decision.
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.08 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit
Originally by: Goumindong Jade has had a full permanent forum ban in the past and was allowed to participate.
Full permanent bans ain't what they used to be
Yes, it was harder to get a full permanent ban back then than it was today and the penalties that accrue leading up to said ban are more severe now.
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.09 01:53:00 -
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Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto There's a CSM forum?
Yes.
So far, it's just used for discussing issues which are being raised.
That seems like an odd use - each topic being raised already has a forum thread, by definition. You have the mailing list for private communications and the Eve boards for public - what's this third one for?
Saves them time sifting the wheat from the chaff
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.09 03:48:00 -
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Originally by: Serenity Steele At the risk being forum banned themselves for repeatedly reporting posts that didn't deserve it.
This would be done with alts.
Quote: Ideas?
Drop it. You are already prohibited from running when you have a forum ban in effect, such there is no reason to allow candidates and representatives to be open to such attacks.
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.09 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
To the few dozen identical posters in the thread above I'd say don't personalize this - its going to be something that does come up in future CSMs and the delegates need a way to resolve the situation.
Resolve what problem?
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.09 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
The assembly hall is not an excuse for flaming and personal attacks and I'd like to ask the Goonswarm posters in this thread to stop it immediately.
The assembly hall is not an excuse to ignore debate.
I ask again, what problem?
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.09 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Darius JOHNSON If they pretty up their attacks and veil them in [ISSUE] tags will it be considered more appropriate?
I honestly don't care what they do as long as they stop using assembly hall as a venue for personal attacks and flaming. Discuss the pros and cons of the issue in the thread - or post other issue threads, but its never appropriate to use this AH for flaming and personal attacks against eve players.
I honestly don't care if you want to change the subject. Answer the freaking question.
What is this supposed problem or situation you are trying to solve?
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.10 01:36:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc
A some what theatrical representation some of which i would actually agree with, unfortunately it's the parts you seem to be deliberately ignoring that would swing my support for the the issue.
Within reason, i wouldnt be in favour of removal of a player representative based on constructive interaction with CCP, i would be in favour of the option of removing a representative who cant interact with other members of the community on E-O within the guidelines given by CCP.
This suggestion so far is the best to this ends, so i'll ask again, do you have a better alternative?
What is he ignoring?
Why is a forum banned representative a problem?
These questions have still not been answered.
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.10 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc I am well aware of the potential draw backs of this, this is why i have constantly ask you to provide a better alternative.
Everyone is well aware of the potential drawbacks. That is why we keep asking "what is the problem in the first place?" that needs to be resolved
What is the problem that needs to be fixed?
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btw, this isn't a fact. Guidelines are provided here for interacting with other members of the community (applies only on E-O ofc.)
You're misunderstanding the original statement.
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