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Maxinie
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Posted - 2008.10.06 07:43:00 -
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Hiya, sitting here and pondering, im a noobie pirate, flying a frig around and trying to get my yarr on, however I cant go near any gates and pew pew, how much damage do they do, what ship do I need to tank it ? Will a cruiser do or do I need a battle cruiser to do that ?
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Vikarion
Caldari Hunters Imperiale
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Posted - 2008.10.06 07:55:00 -
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You need either a very well fit drake, or a battleship. Gate guns do quite a bit of DPS, so tanking them is rather a tough proposition for most ships. --------
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Rehtom Lamina
The Movement
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Posted - 2008.10.06 08:24:00 -
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Hit and run works well on gates when you start out.
I do it in a hurricane still.
Buffer tanked hurricane can tank sentrys for almost 1 min, thats enough to take out some battlecruisers and anything else cruiser or smaller.
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Sarciss
Black Legion Command
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Posted - 2008.10.06 08:27:00 -
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Most battlecruisers can withstand the damage for decent amount of time. Buffer tanks will suffer, so those with reppers are better at it.
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Rehtom Lamina
The Movement
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Posted - 2008.10.06 09:01:00 -
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Originally by: Sarciss Most battlecruisers can withstand the damage for decent amount of time. Buffer tanks will suffer, so those with reppers are better at it.
But you will be limited to using cap boosted setups, replacing the cap booster with sheild extender or sensor booster will make all the difference :)
With active repper tanks you will go down faster than you can rep if you get engaged, buffers with resistance tank seem to fair better from experience.
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Bigsleezy
Caldari It's A Trap
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Posted - 2008.10.06 09:21:00 -
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Heavy interdictors such as the broadsword and onyx can perma tank gate guns. My onyx sits about 72% shields and 65% cap. With the infinite point anything with stabs is going to die that comes through the gate
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SKINK0429
THE NDRANGHETA Monkey Religion
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Posted - 2008.10.06 09:29:00 -
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I lowsec pvp in a duel rep hurricane, yes its boosted and i dnt have a problem tbh, it can tank what I engage and the guns for till i run out of boosters!
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Dez Affinity
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.10.06 13:23:00 -
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If you just want to kill haulers/barges/badly setup cruisers, you can just use a Caracal or Thorax. _______________
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.10.06 13:48:00 -
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352 DPS.
Basically: - Buffer fit cruisers work for ganking haulers. Often cannot scoop loot before gtfo. Lack buffer to operate for any reasonable period of time, sentry fire alone reduces time to live to approx 40 seconds to 1 minute, depending on slots spent on buffer tank. Needs either remote or local rep (hybrid plate/rep setups) to return to the gate after gank. Sometimes issues scooping loot after killing a tanked hauler. Exception Moa which can permatank sentries.
- Buffer fit BCs work for ganking haulers / cruisers / very badly setup BCs. Sometimes cannot scoop loot before gtfo. Buffer enables about 2 minutes of sentry aggro to 3 minutes of sentry aggro alone, depending on strenght of buffer tank. Armour buffer based setups need either remote or local rep (hybrid plate/rep setups) to return to the gate after gank. Shield buffer based setups just need time. Exception Drake which can permatank sentries.
- Active rep BCs work for ganking haulers / cruisers / etc. Issues when target fires back, issues getting 352 DPS tank on most BCs. Enables 3-4 minutes of sentry operation before death on many BCs, given sentries often do about 100-ish DPS over your tank unless you're in a very tank dedicated or tank rigged fit. Easy to repair so can return to gate after gank easy. Melts fast under sentries + DPS due to poor tank and lower EHP. Exception Myrmidon which can permatank sentries. Burns cap charges. Better for lower skilled characters, as getting tank is easier then getting gank required for buffer setups to work.
There, I think I summed it up, in short.
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Solomon XI
Hoist The Colors.
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Posted - 2008.10.06 15:53:00 -
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My duel-rep Myrmidon can tank the guns indefinitely. Now if I come under fire ... that's a different story. I hear an Astarte does pretty good. ~Solo Hoist The Colors. (CEO) Pirate Coalition (Yar?) |
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Haakelen
Gallente Genesis Rising Brotherhood of Nod.
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Posted - 2008.10.06 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Solomon XI My duel-rep Myrmidon can tank the guns indefinitely. Now if I come under fire ... that's a different story. I hear an Astarte does pretty good.
Abso can work too in my experience. The Sleipnir is tougher, because the X-L booster fit isn't cap friendly, and a Large booster isn't good enough.
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5yndr0m3
Caldari Ninjas N Pirates
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Posted - 2008.10.07 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Maxinie Hiya, sitting here and pondering, im a noobie pirate, flying a frig around and trying to get my yarr on, however I cant go near any gates and pew pew, how much damage do they do, what ship do I need to tank it ? Will a cruiser do or do I need a battle cruiser to do that ?
you can do it for about 3 minutes in a maller if you fit it right. . and then it went bang. |
Crazy Tasty
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.10.07 00:41:00 -
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Maller or Thorax for cruisers, plate setups with some rep. Almost any BC can last long enough to kill something small. ------ // This is by design. When a ship jumps through a gate, it clears all aggression. // - BH ******** Pew on gate, if it gets hot, jump through and Ctrl-Q. Game mechanic endorsed by CCP. |
Morgon Borga
Caldari The Photon Raiders
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Posted - 2008.10.07 00:47:00 -
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Edited by: Morgon Borga on 07/10/2008 00:47:37 I've been able to tank the gate guns in addition to hostile fire indefinitely in my Drake. Problem is, you won't do much DPS and you're limited in terms of the tackle you can fit. However, it's enough to kill cruisers and some battlecruisers (except another Drake). I draw the line at fitting anything more than a scram in terms of tackle and that can make life hard if you're trying to catch the nano-cruiser scuttling away.
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Red zeon
Caldari Circle of Shadows Bionic Dawn
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Posted - 2008.10.08 02:42:00 -
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when you pop a hauler and want the loot, its better to warp to a bookmark 200km from the gate, and then warp to the wreck, unless your wery close to the wreck ofc,
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Magus Nebula
Repo Industries R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.10.08 07:17:00 -
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Onyx FTW
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DEATHsyphon
Gallente IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.10.09 01:09:00 -
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RIGS, buy em, use em, love em -------------------- I'm not not going to pod you! |
Solomon XI
Hoist The Colors. Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.10.09 09:00:00 -
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Just an update ... I tanked sentry guns a few nights ago in a Deimos while killing a Megathron with a few buddies. It was a 0.2 system I believe. ~Solo Hoist The Colors. (CEO) Pirate Coalition (Yar?) |
kessah
Suicidal Tendencies Ltd
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Posted - 2008.10.09 09:59:00 -
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Mallers a damn fine choice.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.10.09 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: Solomon XI Just an update ... I tanked sentry guns a few nights ago in a Deimos while killing a Megathron with a few buddies. It was a 0.2 system I believe.
System security doesn't matter.
Also, you were 'tanking it' because your buddies were sharing sentry aggro - that always makes it easier. I have to point out that using a Diemost for gatecamping is asking to produce a expensive killmail - had the Mega, for instance, primaried you, you'd die before he did Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
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