They are usefull, not need changes.

you are alone with that point of view.

a 700ish mil battleship that is useful for almost nothing and can bridge like 3 systems at best.

I've made billions of isk with that useless ship grinding sigs in soviet mordor with some alts in recons and transies.

I've even hotdropped with those ships and on a regular occasion, bridge transport fleets for minor hauling ops through low sec and 0.0.

So no, I share his view.

What you want is a 700 mil titan wannabe wtfownmobile that only works in PvP.

If i wanted a wtfpwnmobile I could get one for much less than 700mil thats for sure.
What else can I get that costs 700 mil?
A carrier hull, almost 4x Tier 3 bs hulls, a fully fitted T3 cruiser, 21 hurricanes, 20 drakes...


What I and a vast majority of people want is a ship that is worth what it costs.

I want a ship that can bridge a pvp force a valuable distance, somewhat defend itself (eg not like the sin which is just a bus driver), can be self sufficient enough to covertly deploy a gang of 10-20 bombers/recons deep into hostile territory all without needing a fuel truck in support.

How I think that it can be achieved is though what most people have been preaching:
Bigger fuel bay, longer jump/bridge range, better resists, cov ops cloak.





This is not about one ship to rule them all (may as well continue with the LOTR theme), but a ship that is worth using/loosing rather than the least flown ship in the game.

And the answer for this has nothing to do with an invisible local list so lets steer clear of that other topic.

What I and a vast majority of people want is a ship that is worth what it costs.