But, repoc. Free isk.

You are just now realizing this?

Silly you is more like it.

Why would you post this rather than profiting from the information yourself?

Trying to extort ISK from the people that knew about it?

It becomes interesting at a price of 610isk/u for the Noxcium.

Matter of volumes essentially, it is hard to find a station with hundred of thousands books
Books take twice the volume of the minerals and seems to come by 3300. It is surely interesting if Nox climbs very high but will require a lot of dedication

How long does it take ccp to remove the silly cap though?

Matter of volumes essentially, it is hard to find a station with hundred of thousands books Books take twice the volume of the minerals and seems to come by 3300. It is surely interesting if Nox climbs very high but will require a lot of dedication

Regardless of available volume I do not think that CCP would want to nerf this.

Why?

It is an ISK SINK.

You buy Pax Amarr and isk goes out the system. Ok Nocx and Iso get added - but ISK exits the system

Regardless of available volume I do not think that CCP would want to nerf this.

Why?

It is an ISK SINK.

You buy Pax Amarr and isk goes out the system. Ok Nocx and Iso get added - but ISK exits the system

Regardless of available volume I do not think that CCP would want to nerf this.

Why?

It is an ISK SINK.

You buy Pax Amarr and isk goes out the system. Ok Nocx and Iso get added - but ISK exits the system

Matter of volumes essentially, it is hard to find a station with hundred of thousands books

I'm not sure it matters, there were people making a lot of money of this and I don't doubt that should you ever undock you'll be a target to some of them.

But this is MD - undocking is not required here.

The obvious answer is bots, go on, blame the bots. :)

I was already out of the bag :P I just reposted.

Okay, I bought 50k units (which netted me 300K nox to dump on the market) in 1 second.
Even a bot can not do that.

It's been said before, "Some of you just don't know how the market works."

Technically, yes it is an ISK sink, but it encourages ISK faucet use at the expense of mining. If minerals can't rise in price enough, then why go mine, might as well shoot rats and add more money to the system. Just a few people could sustain the entire Eve economy at these prices, all those people not mining are going to be doing ... what?

This is essentially a subsidy for everyone that does not mine Nocx, if you want to look at it at from a different perspective. It's things like this that are partly responsible for the Eve economy being in a rather curious predicament.

While your statement is solidly grounded in theory, it is not backed up by reality. A quick look at forum threads, QEN data, and market history (if you happen to have a private history that goes back far enough) will confirm that even when NPC's sold shuttles there were plenty of people mining low end roids. As mineral prices approached the levels where NPC shuttles could be refined, people did not switch away from mining low ends, even though just a few people could sustain the entire EVE economy at those prices.

Do you have the numbers of people that did stop and move to something else? Or those that never started? Or perhaps that that switched from veld to scordite, to pyro, kernite omber and plag? No? Didn't think so.

For all intents and purposes you do not need to have those numbers. Veld and trit consistantly hung out below the prices that would have kicked shuttle reproc into action. Meaning, theoretically, that there was more supply than demand.

If veldspar ceased to be sold, mining vessle volumes dropped significantly, or some other things had taken place, your objection would be meaningful. Unfortunately, these things did not happen. So, again, people were still mining veld in large enough quantities to keep prices below NPC shuttle reproc costs.

All this is meant to point out is that opportunity cost, described in isk/hr, is not a very accurate way of determining player behavior. To further complicate issues, since you can run multiple accounts, a "miner" does not have to become a mission runner/ratter/etc and further contribute to ISK generation. A player, who runs both characters, may simply chose to unsub the mining account.

Yes, below NPC cost. It is when reproc of shuttles became profitable that the issue was apparent. No one is going to reproc shuttles when trit is at .80, which if you recall wasn't too uncommon many years ago.

And yes, mining scales across a lot of accounts rather well, it does not scale as well across a number of players since they all want to be paid. Slaves cost nothing but food, or in this case, paid account time, the same base cost as a solo player. All those extra mining accounts were not out shooting rats, they were adding to the overall productive capacity. You are attempting to equate one player with one account, this does not work and just goes to prove my point.

The reason mining scales this way is because it is so god awful boring, which is a different subject.

As of this DT, ccp removed the npc sell orders.


Get ready to cash in on all your nocx!

ONOES..... feel the breeze of the Almighty Nerf Bat as it swings over Jita....


Mook

800 and climbing.

I just emergency logged in to update my sell orders from 850 to 1600

THANK YOU FOR POSTING

hey Mook

thanks for signing your post, wasn't sure who made it!

Blawrf

Why would you post this rather than profiting from the information yourself?

You're surprised there are people playing this game disgusted by some other players ability to exploit each and every failure in the game?
-CCP new this, as I know they will never take away from the game the isk earned by this exploit because it's done once again, by older players just good to wine and exploit.

-100 CCP, you sucked hard on this one and dare to tell us there is too much isk in the game. Start doing things right.

Props OP