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Ai Shun
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Posted - 2012.03.30 22:13:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:We're cool space bros. We're gonna stay cool space bros.
Careful. You may be accused of being an immature 16 year old ... Internet Spaceships are srz bzniss. |

KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
495
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Posted - 2012.03.30 22:13:00 -
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Ninevite wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Alcohol doesn't get people drunk. People get people drunk by choosing to imbibe alcohol. As evidenced by this thread, the average EVE player has the maturity of a 16 year old That's OK, we'll wait for you to mature and be able to make decisions for yourself.  http://blog.beyondreality.se/Incursion-hose Remove all incursions from hisec |

Ninevite
Shiva Initiative Mercenaries
73
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Posted - 2012.03.30 22:14:00 -
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Can we at least limit Michael Bolton to one stage appearance next year? |

Liam Mirren
418
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Posted - 2012.03.30 22:15:00 -
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Fanfest has been doing great since forever and it always has been a alcohol fest, just because someone now uses it as an excuse for messing up doesn't change any of that. Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
My guides: http://mirren.freeforums.org |

Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
59
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Posted - 2012.03.30 22:15:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:We're cool space bros. We're gonna stay cool space bros. Has that comment been cleared by Sony?
EVE shall be purged by fire - please Gods let them ALL burn in Jita. |

Ninevite
Shiva Initiative Mercenaries
73
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Posted - 2012.03.30 22:16:00 -
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Liam Mirren wrote:Fanfest has been doing great since forever and it always has been a alcohol fest, just because someone now uses it as an excuse for messing up doesn't change any of that.
Ah, really not pinning it on Mittani at all, I just felt 80% of the player presentations were worthless |

Kalathia Eginald
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2012.03.30 22:33:00 -
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I've worked in bars. It is my legal responsability to turn round and refuse service to anyone I think is too drunk. If I did not then both myself and the bar I work for could be held liable for any injury the drinker causes to themselves or other people.
Should they sto palchol? Nope. Should they show alittle more responsability and limit it? Possibly but it is not a decision to take hastilly. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1370
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Posted - 2012.03.30 22:36:00 -
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I am sure the blame on booze will come mostly from the USA.
Here we are told if you have a beer or two a day, you are an alcholic.
However it's perfectly normal to be on mind-altering drugs like Prozac and Ritalin.
Nothing like that prussian societal model blaming everything good for all that is bad to make a nation hard-up and bloodthirsty.
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3607
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Posted - 2012.03.30 22:36:00 -
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Ill accept an Alchohol free stage.
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Kehro Urgus
273
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Posted - 2012.03.30 22:39:00 -
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The MIttani should be restricted to Shirley Temples. You know what you find in a sandbox? Sand and cat poo. |

Marduk Nibiru
Physical Chaos
140
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Posted - 2012.03.30 22:41:00 -
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Yes. They should only provide the good stuff. No more of this Jager crap. Fifty cent shots of blue label all the way! |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1370
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Posted - 2012.03.30 22:42:00 -
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Kehro Urgus wrote:The MIttani should be restricted to Shirley Temples.
That's a girl drink. |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1423
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Posted - 2012.03.30 22:42:00 -
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Yes. Fanfest is becoming more and more public and televised each year. It will be under more and more scrutiny each year as well. Drinking should be prohibited in any event that can be or will be televised in any way. Outside of that, what is done at the after parties and in the pubs is another matter.
This is now a matter of public view and public opinion. I doubt CCP wants to be shed in a negative light. Allowing people to get drunk while asking and answering questions is not something most people would consider a positive thing. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |

Kalathia Eginald
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
24
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Posted - 2012.03.30 22:43:00 -
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Kehro Urgus wrote:The MIttani should be restricted to Shirley Temples.
Nah Baby Chams or Snowballs with a cherry  |

Zaine Maltis
Innsmouth Enterprises
31
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Posted - 2012.03.30 22:45:00 -
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Ninevite wrote:Liam Mirren wrote:Fanfest has been doing great since forever and it always has been a alcohol fest, just because someone now uses it as an excuse for messing up doesn't change any of that. Ah, really not pinning it on Mittani at all, I just felt 80% of the player presentations were worthless
Er.... what did you expect to get out of the Alliance Panel? Useful intel? It's supposed to be a drunken brag-athon. Innsmouth Enterprises
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smokeAjoint
Axial tilt Imperius Legio Victrix
2
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Posted - 2012.03.30 22:50:00 -
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just puff puff pass a few at the round table's ^^ -álegalize it |

Panda Name
Republic University Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2012.03.30 22:51:00 -
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i agree OP. CCP, perhaps next year you could let the amarrians host fanfest. while their strictness may result in a few deaths, their flair for rituals would add a nice atmosphere to the event.
yes, i realize this may exclude a few brutors, but nobody cares about them anyway. |

DarthNefarius
Ssssansha'S Deathhead Einsatzgruppen
111
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Posted - 2012.03.30 22:51:00 -
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CCP should start giving out free blow & acid next fanfest along with Frentrix boosters!!! And Caesar's spirit, raging for revenge, With Ate by his side come hot from hell, Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice Cry "Havoc!" and let slip the dogs of war,That this foul deed... -á |

Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
489
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Posted - 2012.03.30 22:52:00 -
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Any time you have a broadcast open to the public...all they need is a URL, you don't need account ID and password to access it, the ones who "own the mic" are responsible (criminally, civillly and fiduciarily) to ensure whtat goes out on that broadcast is in compliance with any laws in any jurisdiction that broadcast might reach. All nations have a set of media laws since the days of radio when crackpots incited people to riot...even the events in Ruwanda were driven by radio broadcasts. Things can get out of hand, quickly.
This means the party givers can't get caught up in the party. If they want a drunken guest to access a microphone, they're free to do it, but there's no excuse any competant legal authority will listen to. CCP in this instance has demonstrated they do not endorse what the person in question said, or did. They distanced themselves from the person quickly enough so as not to appear complicit by intent. That would satisfy reasonable law enforcement, or regulatory bodies. (However, if it happened again, they wouldn't get off so easy.)
So, with this new technology we have...sort of off-the-shelf ability to broadcast world wide, word to the wise: Exercise control over who uses that mic. The party attendees don't have to be sober. Neither do the ones broadcasting, but it'd be a good idea if the second group of party goers are sober. It's also a good idea to gather those whose voices will be going out and brief them on the parameters they have to remain within. You can even print up an agreement and have them sign it. This at least will have them exposed to the parameters...assuming they read it before they sign it. I'd do both. Put it in writing and tell them verbally.
The NEXT thing to do is run the broadcast on a five-second delay with a person on a kill switch. You see this all the time. The drunken guest says "mortarforker", and you have time to blink that out, but not interrupt the stream. Believe any law enforcement will be asking why you didn't do any of this, considering your legal vulnerability should anything go wrong.
So, no. To be in compliance, the party-goers can get $hitfaced if they want - which does reflect on the image of the party giver, btw - and so can those who'll be on the tube....as long as certain effective controls are in place and used. We run whatever risks we want in this life. If you want to play cowboy, nobody's stopping you. After the fact? Don't be surprised if there's a knock on your door and some suits and ties are on your porch with a sheaf of papers...and maybe even a guy with some handcuffs.
Word to yo' muthuh.
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |

DarthNefarius
Ssssansha'S Deathhead Einsatzgruppen
111
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Posted - 2012.03.30 23:00:00 -
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Panda Name wrote:i agree OP. CCP, perhaps next year you could let the amarrians host fanfest. while their strictness may result in a few deaths, their flair for rituals would add a nice atmosphere to the event.
yes, i realize this may exclude a few brutors, but nobody cares about them anyway.
Lets hold Fanfest in Texas!!! We'll all wear guns & fire in the air with our six shooters during presentations instead of wimpy applause!!! At high noon every day the alliance leaders have a shootout in the middle of the street The last day we'll form a posse & lynch the Goonswarm's CEO
And Caesar's spirit, raging for revenge, With Ate by his side come hot from hell, Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice Cry "Havoc!" and let slip the dogs of war,That this foul deed... -á |

Khadann
First Legion La Division Bleue
0
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Posted - 2012.03.30 23:00:00 -
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No,
As one of the dev mentionned, the other Game companies are jealous of CCP way of dealing with its players community.
Fanfest is the only place you could have such experience with game developers. I mean, look at blizz con where even foo fighter can not make people cheers, and don't let me start with the SOE conventions, just good for roleplaying :s |

Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
439
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Posted - 2012.03.30 23:06:00 -
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Ai Shun
507
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Posted - 2012.03.30 23:21:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:This is now a matter of public view and public opinion. I doubt CCP wants to be shed in a negative light. Allowing people to get drunk while asking and answering questions is not something most people would consider a positive thing.
They should make Oktoberfest alcohol free as well. I mean, the wor ... United States might be watching.
Serene Repose wrote:to ensure what goes out on that broadcast is in compliance with any laws in any jurisdiction that broadcast might reach
I hope they don't have Internet in countries under Sharia law. And there are nobody in any religious demographic which objects to this form of partying that might play EVE and watch Fanfest. Because if you seriously want them to comply with any laws their broadcast across the internet might reach ... well. Fanfest is gone.
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Count Austheim
Raven's Flight Vanguard.
36
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Posted - 2012.03.30 23:59:00 -
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Ninevite wrote:Looking back at fanfest I blah blah blah.
No, i need the alcohol to deal with all the nerds. And to forget my own self image. If this ships a-¦rockin, then im strangling someone....
http://count-austheim.blogspot.com/ |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1406
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Posted - 2012.03.31 00:14:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Any time you have a broadcast open to the public...all they need is a URL, you don't need account ID and password to access it, the ones who "own the mic" are responsible (criminally, civillly and fiduciarily) to ensure what goes out on that broadcast is in compliance with any laws in any jurisdiction that broadcast might reach. All nations have a set of media laws since the days of radio when crackpots incited people to riot...even the events in Ruwanda were driven by radio broadcasts. Things can get out of hand, quickly.
This means the party givers can't get caught up in the party. If they want a drunken guest to access a microphone, they're free to do it, but there's no excuse any competant legal authority will listen to. CCP in this instance has demonstrated they do not endorse what the person in question said, or did. They distanced themselves from the person quickly enough so as not to appear complicit by intent. That would satisfy reasonable law enforcement, or regulatory bodies. (However, if it happened again, they wouldn't get off so easy.)
So, with this new technology we have...sort of off-the-shelf ability to broadcast world wide, word to the wise: Exercise control over who uses that mic. The party attendees don't have to be sober. Neither do the ones broadcasting, but it'd be a good idea if the second group of party goers are sober. It's also a good idea to gather those whose voices will be going out and brief them on the parameters they have to remain within. You can even print up an agreement and have them sign it. This at least will have them exposed to the parameters...assuming they read it before they sign it. I'd do both. Put it in writing and tell them verbally.
The NEXT thing to do is run the broadcast on a five-second delay with a person on a kill switch. You see this all the time. The drunken guest says "mortarforker", and you have time to blink that out, but not interrupt the stream. Believe any law enforcement will be asking why you didn't do any of this, considering your legal vulnerability should anything go wrong.
So, no. To be in compliance, the party-goers can get $hitfaced if they want - which does reflect on the image of the party giver, btw - and so can those who'll be on the tube....as long as certain effective controls are in place and used. We run whatever risks we want in this life. If you want to play cowboy, nobody's stopping you. After the fact? Don't be surprised if there's a knock on your door and some suits and ties are on your porch with a sheaf of papers...and maybe even a guy with some handcuffs.
Word to yo' muthuh.
Time delay is a good idea.
As much as I hate to say it, the rest is so much drivel. If you don't know what does and does not apply as far as an internet broadcast is concerned I would suggest not offering your insight in the future. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Gevlin
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
123
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Posted - 2012.03.31 00:17:00 -
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just limit alcohol where it can cause a cascade failure, on broadcasted EVE TV. A lot of us don't know what is it like a fan fest and will take things out of context.
When players are leading a forum put it early in the day. Then let them get plasterd. Let the audience get plasterd.
In response to a person saying any child can monitor their alcohol - I am that guy who does not touch alcohol and very few people don't make a fool of them self while drunk. For example This fan fest alliance panel. - As a person who does not drink I also have to help makes sure the drunk does not make a fool of him self.
For the event that is meant to be drunk.. like the quiz.... delay the broadcast and let a person sober review it before letting it air.
I agree with several people: CCP needs to focus most of eve's recources on FIS, but the development of WIS still needs to continue, just as a slower and more efficient pace. In eve I wish to be more than just a machine. |

Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
121
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Posted - 2012.03.31 00:19:00 -
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Alcohol should ALLWAYS be restriced!
It is NOT cool to get drunken till you don't know who or where you are! It is NOT cool to show others what you have eaten last day! It is NOT cool to brabbel like a monkey!
Just idiots drink to much!
I have nothing against a good cold beer or a tasty Irish Coffee. Even two are fine if you aren't hyper sensetive against alcohol.
BUT EVERYBODY SHOULD KNOW HIS LIMITS! ALLWAYS! Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship! |

Roh Voleto
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
109
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Posted - 2012.03.31 00:21:00 -
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Sure, CCP should definitely restrict alcohol... pricing. Seriously, do you know what booze costs in Island? It's ridiculous.
I say it's time that CCP steps down, and substitutes the needs and costs for mood enhancing substances of fanfest visitors. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1406
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Posted - 2012.03.31 00:25:00 -
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Jojo Jackson wrote:Alcohol should ALLWAYS be restriced!
It is NOT cool to get drunken till you don't know who or where you are! It is NOT cool to show others what you have eaten last day! It is NOT cool to brabbel like a monkey!
Just idiots drink to much!
I have nothing against a good cold beer or a tasty Irish Coffee. Even two are fine if you aren't hyper sensetive against alcohol.
BUT EVERYBODY SHOULD KNOW HIS LIMITS! ALLWAYS!
I wouldn't object to CCP reserving the right to tell a panelist they are too drunk to present well, which would likely bring home the point that if they want to be a celebrity they need to keep themselves from going past their limits. And as I have already said, a time delay is a good idea.
However as anyone drinking at FanFest is an adult, at least by Icelandic law, beyond those common sense requirements unnecessary restrictions would do far more harm than good.
Icelandic views on what is acceptable are fine with me, and I think most people who care to watch. All that is necessary is a touch more common sense. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Ronja Mistysdottir
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.03.31 00:43:00 -
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I did not see members of the panel load the slides. All the slides was loaded by CCP, and they had seen them before the show.
Also, nothing really bad was said during the debate. Some jibberish was said after the debate was over that could be questionable, at best, that the gaming press that hates EVE-Online, a bad game, started to run with.
This caused the best drama I have seen on the Internet for days on days, and everything was cool, and then for some reason people get banned, war-dec rules to change, High Sec ganking gets nerfed / called exploits, so, I wonder...
Are CCP taking my sandbox away? If so, what will be the difference between EVE and WOW / AOC? I do know a scimitar is a priest, a Hictor is a dwarf and so on, but apart from that, nothing. Eve will just be an empty void with no drama.
Eve can not live without Drama, and please, someone, tell me some dramatic stories from another MMO, because I do not think they exist.
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