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RectumRanger
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
5
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Posted - 2012.03.31 23:20:00 -
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BURN ALL PAX AMARRIA! |

Mookie Quantico
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.03.31 23:25:00 -
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Yep.. nerf, nerf, nerf it, BABY ! 
It's not like it needs any mineral value whatsoever as an NPC item.
And yes, I LOVE NOCX ! 
Mook
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bornaa
GRiD.
164
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Posted - 2012.03.31 23:52:00 -
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RectumRanger wrote:BURN ALL PAX AMARRIA!
+1 |

malcovas Henderson
Smoking Minerals Syndicate Cannabis Legionis
3
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Posted - 2012.03.31 23:54:00 -
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Celeritas 5k wrote:Zircon Dasher wrote:malcovas Henderson wrote:6 months ago you were happy to sell noxium for 380-400 isk each. Now you are getting 535 you are moaning ? This. Before prices got speculated up this "cap" was fine. Now you mad? Or did you just not know about this until now?    Notice btw that I made no judgment call about artifical caps. I was just happy the pressure relief valves still work. The market price goes wherever production and consumption force it, and it shouldn't work any other way. We're moaning because regardless of drone region nerfs and bot bannings, nocx prices can't go up any further on account of an unlimited source of nocx. That flies directly in the face of CCP's stated goal to make mining worthwhile. It also makes for a terrible market to trade in-- restrictions on the market are restrictions in gameplay.
There is already enough noxcium in the belts for everyone. I am happy that im getting 25% more than i was 6 months ago. Stop bloody crying because someone else is getting it different to you. There is absolutely no reason and quote me on it, absolutely no reason. if this is easy enough and profitable enough more than mining , for you not to do it yourself. Whiners like the OP and you ruin the fun of people doing it their way and not your way.
Seriously?
o7 |

Celeritas 5k
Connoisseurs of Candid Coitus
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Posted - 2012.04.01 00:18:00 -
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malcovas Henderson wrote:
There is already enough noxcium in the belts for everyone.
If we're reprocessing millions of npc trade goods for it, clearly there isn't. Either way, that's not a judgement call and if it were it wouldn't be yours to make. (In other words, stop talking like a damn socialist.)
Quote:I am happy that im getting 25% more than i was 6 months ago. Stop bloody crying because someone else is getting it different to you.
I ain't cryin', I don't mine, and the nocx I get from melting down mission loot is pretty negligible. I get nocx by buying it. (There you go with the socialist thing again.)
Quote:There is absolutely no reason and quote me on it, absolutely no reason. if this is easy enough and profitable enough more than mining , for you not to do it yourself. Whiners like the OP and you ruin the fun of people doing it their way and not your way.
Seriously?
o7
With this method you can create unlimited amounts of nocx almost instantaneously. You're dense if you consider this comparable to mining. I'll give you one good reason-- as long as the pax amarria cap exists, because there is zero effort involved, it will return almost no profit for those who do it (except in exceptionally large volumes), and mining nocx will forever continue to give mediocre income as well.
Another good reason- I've been buying up all the nocx I can afford and I want to make ISK off it.
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malcovas Henderson
Smoking Minerals Syndicate Cannabis Legionis
3
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Posted - 2012.04.01 00:30:00 -
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Celeritas 5k wrote:
Another good reason- I've been buying up all the nocx I can afford and I want to make ISK off it.
This right here.
What you are saying is you want protection from Competitors, for your investment. Now we are getting to the root of your whining.
seriously?
o7 |

Zanzbar
Count With Teddy Mercenaries Stay Calm Don't Panic
17
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Posted - 2012.04.01 00:31:00 -
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Just make it so npc seeded goods can't be melted down for anything |

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
469
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Posted - 2012.04.01 00:33:00 -
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malcovas Henderson wrote:Celeritas 5k wrote:
Another good reason- I've been buying up all the nocx I can afford and I want to make ISK off it.
This right here. What you are saying is you want protection from Competitors, for your investment. Now we are getting to the root of your whining.
I just made 100 million that miners could have made. Oh well, too bad for the miners. |

Rangloff
Lightbringer's Sanctuary Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.04.01 00:37:00 -
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This is very bad for the market good find OP. |

malcovas Henderson
Smoking Minerals Syndicate Cannabis Legionis
3
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Posted - 2012.04.01 00:42:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:
I just made 100 million that miners could have made. Oh well, too bad for the miners.
Good on You dude.
Some people are happy at making a profit. I am, and it seems your are too. Would I like to make more profit? hell yeah. but im not going to cry, because something is capping my profit.
If it doesn't make the profit I want then I'll move onto something else. simples
o7 |

Celeritas 5k
Connoisseurs of Candid Coitus
21
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Posted - 2012.04.01 01:05:00 -
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malcovas Henderson wrote:Celeritas 5k wrote:
Another good reason- I've been buying up all the nocx I can afford and I want to make ISK off it.
This right here. What you are saying is you want protection from Competitors, for your investment. Now we are getting to the root of your whining.
So you argue that my motivation is that I stand to make a couple hundred mil, and not that both the mining profession and the market are being screwed over on a massive scale by what is clearly an artificial, unintended, and unforseen cap on the price of nocx. |

Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
277
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Posted - 2012.04.01 01:05:00 -
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I never knew you could reprocess a book for minerals. Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you. |

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2012.04.01 01:34:00 -
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Hausman Heckman wrote:Pax Amarria is an NPC-seeded good that you can refine for 6 nocxium and 2 isogen
THIS UNDERCUTS MINING AS A PROFESSION
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Just goes to prove: AMARR GOD HATES MINERS
Imagine the outrage if the Koran/Bible was being burned/recycled as fast as Pax Amarria  the protests in Amarr should make the Jita Spring look silly 
This should be illegal in Amarr yet legal in every other Empire And Caesar's spirit, raging for revenge, With Ate by his side come hot from hell, Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice Cry "Havoc!" and let slip the dogs of war,That this foul deed... -á |

malcovas Henderson
Smoking Minerals Syndicate Cannabis Legionis
3
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Posted - 2012.04.01 01:44:00 -
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Celeritas 5k wrote:
So you argue that my motivation is that I stand to make a couple hundred mil, and not that both the mining profession and the market are being screwed over on a massive scale by what is clearly an artificial, unintended, and unforseen cap on the price of nocx.
You make a couple of hundred mil WITH the cap. So why moan. It all about greed. You profit margine would not be much more greater without the cap. As miners would sell for more as the price increases.
Just because something takes no effort. is not a reason to change things. Hauling takes no effort in high sec. should CCP remove hauling?. Where would you be in your noxcium profits then?
You arguement is all about greed.
o7 |

Sidiion
Me Shoot Laser You Eye
0
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Posted - 2012.04.01 01:49:00 -
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if you want free minerals, just reprocess BPC's they give out tiny bits of trix, pyerite, nocx, mex and isogen |

Baillif
Hard Knocks Inc.
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Posted - 2012.04.01 01:51:00 -
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Should be ruled an exploit |

Sidiion
Me Shoot Laser You Eye
0
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Posted - 2012.04.01 01:52:00 -
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Baillif wrote:Should be ruled an exploit
what should be ruled an exploit?
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Baillif
Hard Knocks Inc.
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Posted - 2012.04.01 01:57:00 -
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The Pax thing. It won't be of course because it really isn't different from insurance once upon a time. |

Hausman Heckman
TryHardy Boys
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Posted - 2012.04.01 02:52:00 -
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Baillif wrote:The Pax thing. It won't be of course because it really isn't different from insurance once upon a time.
Well, they took that out for a reason |

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
469
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Posted - 2012.04.01 03:05:00 -
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malcovas Henderson wrote:Adunh Slavy wrote:
I just made 100 million that miners could have made. Oh well, too bad for the miners.
Good on You dude. Some people are happy at making a profit. I am, and it seems your are too. Would I like to make more profit? hell yeah. but im not going to cry, because something is capping my profit. If it doesn't make the profit I want then I'll move onto something else. simples o7

Congrats, you have entered into troll territory. |

Celeritas 5k
Connoisseurs of Candid Coitus
21
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Posted - 2012.04.01 03:29:00 -
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malcovas Henderson wrote: Your arguement is all about greed. o7
Yup. 
What the hell else would it be based on? What part EVE's economy isn't based on greed? |

Nariya Kentaya
Tartarus Ventures Surely You're Joking
165
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Posted - 2012.04.01 04:06:00 -
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i agree, its stupid that it can be reproccessed, BUT DONT REMOVE IT FROM MARKET, i like my 3 pax amarria sitting in my hanagr in amarr, for thsoe times when i get extra bored i can pretend im reading it. though i suually just end up walking away fromt he comp and reading a book anyways. |

Ren Oren
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.04.01 04:34:00 -
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malcovas Henderson wrote:6 months ago you were happy to sell noxium for 380-400 isk each. Now you are getting 535 you are moaning ?
Seriously?
I think someone is butthurt they didnt buy the books fast enough.
o7
THIS^ |

Lord FunkyMunky
Intergalactic Syndicate Nulli Secunda
14
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Posted - 2012.04.01 05:20:00 -
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seems like an easy solution, remove ability to refine pax... problem solved, why hasn't ccp fixed this?!?!? |

Llyandrian
Livestock Science Exchange
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Posted - 2012.04.01 07:11:00 -
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With good refining and standing, there is no profit at current prices.
Prices need to much higher than they are now for this to pay off.
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Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
397
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Posted - 2012.04.01 07:19:00 -
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Llyandrian wrote: With good refining and standing, there is no profit at current prices.
Prices need to much higher than they are now for this to pay off.
When they nerf this + drone changes, you can expect nocx to go up 200 isk a unit at least. I hope you all stocked up on cheaper_than_market nocx through refining Pax Amarria. Large volumes of highly researched Ammo, drones, charges and ship bpo's. Biggest BPO store in EVE! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=445524#post445524 |

Ch3244
Azule Dragoons Sspectre
6
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Posted - 2012.04.01 08:40:00 -
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INvesting in hundreds of millions worth of "Pax Amarria" for the nerf.....
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Celeritas 5k
Connoisseurs of Candid Coitus
21
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Posted - 2012.04.01 08:43:00 -
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Smart, because if they leave the trade good on the market but make it non-reprocessable then you'll stand to make tens of isk trying to sell them. |

Ch3244
Azule Dragoons Sspectre
6
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Posted - 2012.04.01 08:44:00 -
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Celeritas 5k wrote:Smart, because if they leave the trade good on the market but make it non-reprocessable then you'll stand to make tens of isk trying to sell them. i meant for the mins |

Kaivar Lancer
General Exports
191
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Posted - 2012.04.01 09:03:00 -
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I locked in 2b of isk into Pax Amarria. Thank you OP.
Once CCP nerfs Pax Amarria, I'll be sitting on a fortune. Everyone should do the same. |
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