Time to start exploiting this, kthxbai.

Too late for that.

What kind of book is made from metals?

What kind of book is made from metals?

Pax Amarria is an NPC-seeded good that you can refine for 6 nocxium and 2 isogen

Whenever nocxium exceeds about 535 isk per unit (given the relatively stable price for isogen) it becomes profitable to simply buy endless quantities of Pax Amarria from NPC sell orders, reprocess, and fill the orders

Basically, you can just buy Nocxium and Isogen for a fixed price from bottomless sell orders on the market



THIS UNDERCUTS MINING AS A PROFESSION



Over the past year, a small group of people have been buying and reprocessing massive amounts of Pax Amarria every time Noxcium buy orders go over about 535 isk per unit, and dumping the resulting minerals into the buy orders for a huge and easy profit

The result is that the price of Nocxium has remained artificially capped at about 535 isk per unit

PAX AMARRIA MUST BE REMOVED FROM THE MARKET.

It's funny though how this thread keeps reinventing itself every time the nocx prices takes a little hike.

Mad that I didn't discover this on my own and profit from it.

What kind of book is made from metals?

@ CCP

We are waiting for your response on this subject!!!

Just change it to one trit for the reprocessing.

Or if it is a book made of paper 1 unit of some very basic planetary material because why would a book be made out of spaceship grade materials.

Unless in our infinite wisdom we just launch Pax Ammarria from space so that upon reentry primitive peoples see it as a sign from God.

Thanks OP I just converted all my ISK to Pax Amarria. Now get this fixed so my mins can be worth even more :)

What kind of book is made from metals?

So what you are saying is that CCP was able to sink a bunch of ISK out of the game?

Cool!

6 months ago you were happy to sell noxium for 380-400 isk each. Now you are getting 535 you are moaning ?

This.

Before prices got speculated up this "cap" was fine.
Now you mad?

Or did you just not know about this until now?

Notice btw that I made no judgment call about artifical caps. I was just happy the pressure relief valves still work.

So what you are saying is that CCP was able to sink a bunch of ISK out of the game?

Cool!

What kind of book is made from metals?

It's absolutely ridiculous to think that changing ISK into minerals with 0 gameplay effort is a "pressure relief valve". You don't know what you are talking about

I do not think you know what you are talking about.


1 book = 6 noxcium. 10 books = 60. 100 books = 600. 1000 books = 6000. 10,000 books = 60,000. 10,000 books = 2 mill profit. approx after cost of book. how long do you think it takes to get 10k books?

I do not think you know what you are talking about.


1 book = 6 noxcium. 10 books = 60. 100 books = 600. 1000 books = 6000. 10,000 books = 60,000. 10,000 books = 2 mill profit. approx after cost of book. how long do you think it takes to get 10k books?

how long do you think it takes to get 10k books?

How long it takes for you to click buy.
And then reprocess.
And then sell.
And you can buy what ever amount you want.

Chances are it ends up adding to the ISK supply in the long run. Why go mine when you can buy some minerals at a fixed price? Might as well shoot rats and get more ISK, then you can get even more minerals. Doesn't take many people to supply all the Nocx Eve needs with this. So all those people that would have other wise been mining for nocx, are out shooting rats.

PAX AMARRIA MUST BE REMOVED FROM THE MARKET.

This.

Before prices got speculated up this "cap" was fine.
Now you mad?

Or did you just not know about this until now?

Notice btw that I made no judgment call about artifical caps. I was just happy the pressure relief valves still work.

BURN ALL PAX AMARRIA!

The market price goes wherever production and consumption force it, and it shouldn't work any other way. We're moaning because regardless of drone region nerfs and bot bannings, nocx prices can't go up any further on account of an unlimited source of nocx. That flies directly in the face of CCP's stated goal to make mining worthwhile. It also makes for a terrible market to trade in-- restrictions on the market are restrictions in gameplay.

There is already enough noxcium in the belts for everyone.

I am happy that im getting 25% more than i was 6 months ago. Stop bloody crying because someone else is getting it different to you.

There is absolutely no reason and quote me on it, absolutely no reason. if this is easy enough and profitable enough more than mining , for you not to do it yourself. Whiners like the OP and you ruin the fun of people doing it their way and not your way.


Seriously?

o7

Another good reason- I've been buying up all the nocx I can afford and I want to make ISK off it.

This right here.

What you are saying is you want protection from Competitors, for your investment. Now we are getting to the root of your whining.

I just made 100 million that miners could have made. Oh well, too bad for the miners.

This right here.

What you are saying is you want protection from Competitors, for your investment. Now we are getting to the root of your whining.

Pax Amarria is an NPC-seeded good that you can refine for 6 nocxium and 2 isogen




THIS UNDERCUTS MINING AS A PROFESSION

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So you argue that my motivation is that I stand to make a couple hundred mil, and not that both the mining profession and the market are being screwed over on a massive scale by what is clearly an artificial, unintended, and unforseen cap on the price of nocx.

Should be ruled an exploit

The Pax thing. It won't be of course because it really isn't different from insurance once upon a time.

Good on You dude.

Some people are happy at making a profit. I am, and it seems your are too. Would I like to make more profit? hell yeah. but im not going to cry, because something is capping my profit.

If it doesn't make the profit I want then I'll move onto something else. simples


o7

Your arguement is all about greed.
o7

6 months ago you were happy to sell noxium for 380-400 isk each. Now you are getting 535 you are moaning ?


Seriously?


I think someone is butthurt they didnt buy the books fast enough.



o7

With good refining and standing, there is no profit at current prices.

Prices need to much higher than they are now for this to pay off.

INvesting in hundreds of millions worth of "Pax Amarria" for the nerf.....

Smart, because if they leave the trade good on the market but make it non-reprocessable then you'll stand to make tens of isk trying to sell them.

I locked in 2b of isk into Pax Amarria. Thank you OP.

Once CCP nerfs Pax Amarria, I'll be sitting on a fortune. Everyone should do the same.

What kind of book is made from metals?

Interesting, there no longer seem to be npc sell orders for Pax, at least in Domain. There were yesteday.

Interesting, there no longer seem to be npc sell orders for Pax, at least in Domain. There were yesteday.

Time to start exploiting this, kthxbai.

Seriously serious.

This is pretty whacked-out.

It's funny how anybody is rushing for Nocx while Pax Amarr was also a cap to Isogen and there is much more need for the latter. :)

looks like 0.0 alliances will try to recruit/hire empire miners into null sec, give them systems and protection and buy their mined ore ), at a discount but still profit to everyone

Can be interesting turn of events.

With Noxium @ $535 x 6 = $3210

PAX AMARRIA cost $3283

The price of selling the 2 isogen should cover your taxes...maybe....

How is this profitable?

With Noxium @ $535 x 6 = $3210

PAX AMARRIA cost $3283

The price of selling the 2 isogen should cover your taxes...maybe....

How is this profitable?

How is this profitable?

looks like 0.0 alliances will try to recruit/hire empire miners into null sec, give them systems and protection and buy their mined ore ), at a discount but still profit to everyone

Can be interesting turn of events.

Cool now make all cans player built and we would offically gotten rid of just about every mineral cap in the game.

I doubt the free frgiates donned upon the rookies tutorial missions is going to factor in for the amount of minerals they produce.

price rises, like every other mineral to 540-600, people with large volumes (lol pun) of pax reproccesed nocx would dump, netting 10-70 isk a unit profit. This drives the price back down to the equilibrium.

Pretty much the whole week (before Sunday) Nocx buy orders where at 525.07 and Iso was at 83.95 .

545.07 * 6 + 83.95 * 2 = 3438.32

Aren't cans so overly priced that the mineral prices would have to sky rocket above dangerously unhealthy levels?

is it just me or does the latest patch notes lead to the belief that the pax amarria "ingrediants" are changed... no more nocx?

You get WAY more minerals from reprocessing plex, it just doesn't show it in the reprocessing window.