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Plamya Sky Net Industries Pure.	Posted - 2008.10.12 07:03:00 - [1] How would one fit a chimera to kill pirates in lo sec?
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.10.12 07:04:00 - [2] drone controls, tackle gear and signal amps, make sure you warp to the gate, where will you be doing this btw?
Liang Nuren No Salvation	Posted - 2008.10.12 07:06:00 - [3] Solo or in a gang? -Liang --
Plamya Sky Net Industries Pure.	Posted - 2008.10.12 07:07:00 - [4] Originally by: Liang Nuren Solo or in a gang? -Liang Both but more interested in solo.
Plamya Sky Net Industries Pure.	Posted - 2008.10.12 07:09:00 - [5] Originally by: Gneeznow drone controls, tackle gear and signal amps, make sure you warp to the gate, where will you be doing this btw? You got a specific fully fledged fitting in mind? I'll be doing it all over the place.
Liang Nuren No Salvation	Posted - 2008.10.12 07:15:00 - [6] You could try something like this... I guess. Maybe replace the neuts with DCU's if you want. I dunno though, it's kinda lacking in cap recharge because even 8 heavy neuts will have you capped out in under 10 mins. :-/ [Chimera, Lowsec Killer] Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Capital Shield Booster I Shield Boost Amplifier II Shield Boost Amplifier II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Warp Disruptor II Cap Recharger II Large Plasma Smartbomb II Heavy Energy Neutralizer II Heavy Energy Neutralizer II Drone Control Unit I Drone Control Unit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Templar x3 Dragonfly x3 Firbolg x3 Einherji x3 Templar x1 Dragonfly x1 Firbolg x1 Wasp EC-900 x48 Vespa EC-600 x24 Praetor EV-900 x24 Garde II x24 Bouncer II x24 Ogre II x48 Warrior II x96 Hornet EC-300 x16 -Liang --
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.10.12 08:18:00 - [7] Liangs set-up is decent, but carriers aren't suited for solo pvp. Slow lock speed, slow movement, vulnerability to e-war etc. One tackler plus a falcon can keep you pinned forever.
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.10.12 08:49:00 - [8] Originally by: Plamya How would one fit a chimera to kill pirates in lo sec? If you have to ask this question, you probably shouldn't even be in low-sec to begin with. Or a carrier. Also we now see why your alliance got spanked out of 0.0. Try fighting instead of running away and get some experience. That will help you far more than a random fit off of the eve-o forums. -- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.10.12 08:51:00 - [9] Originally by: Vaal Erit Originally by: Plamya How would one fit a chimera to kill pirates in lo sec? If you have to ask this question, you probably shouldn't even be in low-sec to begin with. Or a carrier. Also we now see why your alliance got spanked out of 0.0. Try fighting instead of running away and get some experience. That will help you far more than a random fit off of the eve-o forums. someone just had to post it ^^
Liang Nuren No Salvation	Posted - 2008.10.12 08:56:00 - [10] Originally by: Sokratesz Liangs set-up is decent, but carriers aren't suited for solo pvp. Slow lock speed, slow movement, vulnerability to e-war etc. One tackler plus a falcon can keep you pinned forever. The setup may be decent for it but it's a honking ******ed thing to do. -Liang --

Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.10.12 09:12:00 - [11] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Sokratesz Liangs set-up is decent, but carriers aren't suited for solo pvp. Slow lock speed, slow movement, vulnerability to e-war etc. One tackler plus a falcon can keep you pinned forever. The setup may be decent for it but it's a honking ******ed thing to do. -Liang It's like trying to remove the bullet that ruptured one of your kidneys manually and on your own. There's definitely a 'best' way to do it like that but it's best left to the professionals.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2008.10.12 09:25:00 - [12] I would think 2x sensor boosters would be necessary to have any chance of locking a target in time, and to resist damps. Also, ECCM (low or mid slot) would probably be a good idea. Sure, it'll cost you some tank, but if your solo carrier runs into anything that forces you to even turn on your shield booster, you're dead.
Vim Spook Division	Posted - 2008.10.12 11:33:00 - [13] /me remembers fondly the mega pilot who stalled the ransom payment in order for his alt to warp to gate in a thanatos to scare the evil pirate bs, the evil pirate hac and the evil pirate guardian away. Boy was he suprised when the instant reaction was to tackle him
Lady Valory Caldari Caldari Strike Force	Posted - 2008.10.12 11:48:00 - [14] Any decent pirate blob will sick a hoard or drones on you... You prob want a smartbomb or two just to kill all their drones, and smartbombs still occasionally pop a missile... A better idea is the gallente dread with the 50% drone damage per level... This will let you deploy sentry drones at a comfortable distance and they can kill a battleship in one volly. Also, you can keep some faster light and medium drones for killing or driving off tacklers. Last, when your basicly in over your head, you can hit siege mode and 'go down fighting' a lot better than if you used a carrier and got completely screwed by EWAR. A carrier with 10 fighter drones is almost the cost of a dread anyway, so you might as well use a dread. If you had some gang mates with webbers/target painters such as rapiers, a gallente dread can insta pop just about any bs on the gate with the blasters...
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.10.12 12:11:00 - [15] Originally by: Lady Valory Any decent pirate blob will sick a hoard or drones on you... You prob want a smartbomb or two just to kill all their drones, and smartbombs still occasionally pop a missile... A better idea is the gallente dread with the 50% drone damage per level... This will let you deploy sentry drones at a comfortable distance and they can kill a battleship in one volly. Also, you can keep some faster light and medium drones for killing or driving off tacklers. Last, when your basicly in over your head, you can hit siege mode and 'go down fighting' a lot better than if you used a carrier and got completely screwed by EWAR. A carrier with 10 fighter drones is almost the cost of a dread anyway, so you might as well use a dread. If you had some gang mates with webbers/target painters such as rapiers, a gallente dread can insta pop just about any bs on the gate with the blasters... i highlighted the bits that make no sense whatsoever
Plamya Sky Net Industries Pure.	Posted - 2008.10.12 13:45:00 - [16] Originally by: Vaal Erit Originally by: Plamya How would one fit a chimera to kill pirates in lo sec? If you have to ask this question, you probably shouldn't even be in low-sec to begin with. Or a carrier. Also we now see why your alliance got spanked out of 0.0. Try fighting instead of running away and get some experience. That will help you far more than a random fit off of the eve-o forums. I'm bored. I have deep pockets. I hate pirates. I know it's crazy and that's why I'm doing it. Now, I demand satisfaction so if you got a better idea I'm listening.
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.10.12 13:46:00 - [17] Get a few friends in bs'es, faction fit them. More effective, less isk, more enjoyment.
Plamya Sky Net Industries Pure.	Posted - 2008.10.12 14:06:00 - [18] I don't usually have that option at the times I play. I need a solo option.
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.10.12 14:08:00 - [19] Originally by: Plamya I don't usually have that option at the times I play. I need a solo option. Well, carriers suck solo, that's the best I can make of it. The chimera may be the most versatile due to its ample mid slots, but it still suffers from all the drawbacks that capital ships offer.
steveid Killed In Action	Posted - 2008.10.12 14:53:00 - [20] i would fit it with drone control units, leave it in a pos and get a tackler alt in something ewar or tanky to assign your fighters to. Other than that its suicide.

Zao Jin	Posted - 2008.10.14 09:38:00 - [21] Originally by: steveid i would fit it with drone control units, leave it in a pos and get a tackler alt in something ewar or tanky to assign your fighters to. Other than that its suicide. To the falconmobile!
Leobon Gallente Angeli Iustitiorum	Posted - 2008.10.14 09:46:00 - [22] Honestly. Atm I would bet if u tried to solo in loew sec in a carrier a nano gang with a single falcon could prolli kill you. I have seen it happen and its kinda funny. So please just give me the money your going to spend on it and have a nice day.
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.10.14 09:47:00 - [23] Originally by: Plamya I'm bored. I have deep pockets. I hate pirates. I know it's crazy and that's why I'm doing it. Now, I demand satisfaction so if you got a better idea I'm listening. But we're nice people. It is nice you're so thoughtful to give people a carrier killmail however. Try using at least some light faction modules. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
destiny2	Posted - 2008.10.14 10:40:00 - [24] How many drones can you control at once with a carrier is it just 5or can you control more
Grarr Dexx Amarr The Cosa Nostra La Cosa Nostra Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.14 10:44:00 - [25] Originally by: destiny2 How many drones can you control at once with a carrier is it just 5or can you control more Sure is hard checking in-game, isn't it?
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.10.14 11:13:00 - [26] Originally by: destiny2 How many drones can you control at once with a carrier is it just 5or can you control more 5 from base skill, +5 from carriers 5 and another 5 when you fit 5 drone control units
Tractory	Posted - 2008.10.16 06:37:00 - [27] And that is what, 60 days to carrier 5, probably 60 days to advanced drone interfacing 5, 60 days to fighters 5 if you are really going to go for it. As said before you would be better off in a moros dumping heavy drones or sentries for the same kind of money.
Derek Sigres	Posted - 2008.10.16 07:29:00 - [28] I think the short point here is simply this: a carrier is a hard target, yes, but it's far from unkillable. In spite of thier apparent power, capital ships are, by and large at least, incredibly vulnerable when not properly supported. The carrier may have a massive dronebay but those drones can in fact be rather handily shot down which leaves you with nothing left to defend yourself with. Once the fighters are gone, you're left with the lesser drones, all of whom are frigteningly easy to destroy, espeically when you consider they are the only weapons you have. To take a carrier into lowsec unescourted is to invite disaster. Any fight you could concievably win the target will simply scamer off and wait for friends to arrive. Every pirate within inconvient distance will rush forward at the opportunity to tack a juicy carrier kill-mail onto their e-peen boards, and it's only a matter of time until a force is assembled that has the firepower and staying power to take you down. While a group of carriers properly coordinated can prove a nearly uncrackable target, a single carrier can be taken down by the firepower of a handful of battleships. Even moderate neuting destroys any hope you have of tanking them until they get bored to death, and a single prepared falcon will ensure you will do nothing but sit and watch the jammer bar cycle endlessly until you billion isk ship crumples around you. If you MUST go solo you have to realize that most people don't fly solo these days and it's going to be difficult to find a true 1v1 fight. Even should you FIND that fight, your average pirate has a fair bit of experience under their belt and it will be an incredibly tough fight from beginning to end (by an large pirates represent the most dangerous players on a man for man basis, at least in my experience). My suggestion is going to be an unorthodox one. It's also a truly QUESTIONABLE one: the Scorpion. It's plethora of mid slots, ECM bonus and ability to field adequate firepower for the job make it an obscenely flexible ship. [Scorpion, BS Killer] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II Signal Distortion Amplifier II Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Faint Warp Prohibitor I ECM - Multispectral Jammer II ECM - Multispectral Jammer II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Large Graviton Smartbomb II Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Hammerhead II x5 Warrior II x5 It's literally a swiss army knife and has just about every dirty trick up it's sleeve you could hope for. Yes, it's short a web, but the omission was intentional on my part. The heavy neut will take care of stopping any target that you'd need it for, though feel free to slap one in there if you must. There is a caveat: sucess or failure is dictated almost ENTIRELY by those two jammers. You will miss jams on opposing battleships, especially if they fit ECCM and your buffer is going to be uncomfortably slim for the amount of firepower you can sling (a bit over 600 DPS).
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.10.16 07:34:00 - [29] Originally by: Tractory And that is what, 60 days to carrier 5, probably 60 days to advanced drone interfacing 5, 60 days to fighters 5 if you are really going to go for it. As said before you would be better off in a moros dumping heavy drones or sentries for the same kind of money. Just because I said you can, doesn't mean you should. Fitting drone control units is stupid to begin with..
Plamya Sky Net Industries Pure.	Posted - 2008.10.18 23:36:00 - [30] Thanks for the thoughtful post Derek. You have opened my eyes on several levels. No more carrier kill mail for you dirty pirates!



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