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Oftherocks Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.10.14 04:46:00 - [1] I honestly feel sorry for the development team, because this decision clearly shows the finance department is making game design decisions, and that can only lead to a poorly designed game. A sad day
Oftherocks Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.10.14 05:06:00 - [2] Originally by: Alexander Ronay Edited by: Alexander Ronay on 14/10/2008 05:02:47 Originally by: Liranan Ghost training does cost CCP money because you pay for one month, set skill, disable account, log in three weeks later, change skill, disable account. A one month time card could last months this way and, I agree with CCP, it is not good for business. I wasn't aware that it worked that way. I was under the impression that game time was used in 30, 60, or 90 day increments. If it is true, that you can split up 30 days like that, then maybe it does need slight tweaking. But not like this. It does not work like that, game time is used in the above mentioned increments. A 30GTC will last only 30 days, you can't break it up.
Oftherocks Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.10.14 05:08:00 - [3] Originally by: Zabaticus Wow the whining is awesome. If this is such a horrendous decision (I think it's great) then unsubscribe - right now - don't take it - go. Right now - do it - you don't have to take it - show them who's boss. We need the chaff removed so the wheat can grow anyway. I'll be polite and say Be Well but definitely not Well met. Zabaticus Do you want a job with Eve's marketing department? I think you'd fit in just perfectly.
Oftherocks Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.10.14 23:16:00 - [4] I've tried to look at this as though I was in charge of CCP's finances and it just doesn't make sense. Worst case scenario currently would be someone paying $15 every other month, as opposed to every month. I assume they believe those people will convert to paying $15 every month, but that is just an insane leap of logic. The people using the system currently don't want to pay $15 every month, they aren't going to switch to full time accounts because you are forcing them to; they will just cancel those extra accounts. So instead of having a number of people pay $15 every other month, you have a number of people canceling accounts. In no way does it make sense to give up $90 a year for $0 a year.
Oftherocks Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.10.15 01:37:00 - [5] Originally by: CCP t0rfifrans The bug that became a feature On Monday, we released news that we are disabling äGhost Trainingô, the ability to train characters on inactive accounts. This resulted in strong reactions from the community as many people were routinely making use of it. We explained the matter in more detail and pointed out that this had been a bug in the original game code. Those of us who were involved in the process of making the decision and communicating it to the community did not realize this bug had been so accepted as a feature that it was listed as such in our own documentation on our own website. How can we not know whatæs in our own documentation? Well, to be frank, it was a case of insufficient communication on our part between various teams û a regrettable mistake and hard lesson to learn at the expense of the trust youæve placed in us. Thereæs no way to spin it and we wonæt add insult to injury by trying to do so. It was a mistake on our part and for that we sincerely and humbly apologize. Many would hope that in light of this we will decide not to cancel ghost training and keep it active as an option but weære cannot to do that. EVE is already one-of-a-kind in allowing players to progress their characters through offline skill training. We stand by our policy that if you want your character to progress in EVE, you should pay the subscription fee. The fact that so many people have been able to do so for several years was our own oversight. We know this change, and our misstep in telling you about it, has created some discontent and we hope that over time we can prove our committment to make EVE better than ever for you will be evident as you enjoy the fruits of our labor. Torfi My problem with this is that not 1, not 2, but 3 different departments within CCP described this as a feature, not a bug. Marketing, Community Relations, and the GM's all at one time or another verified this was working as intended. You apologize for the "miscommunication" and say you won't insult us by trying to "spin" it, but that is exactly what your post is. I'm sorry that I have lost all trust in CCP, but I seem to have read too many of these dev apologies. I don't believe this was ever a bug. I don't believe this decision was made by the development team. I do believe this decision came down from your CFO who I believe made this decision without understanding the customer base and what the reaction would be. I know your profits are way way way down, but this will not fix that. As I have said elsewhere, I pity the developers, the artists of this game, because your design decisions are now being made by finance people who are obviously clueless.
Oftherocks Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.10.15 06:06:00 - [6] Ivar, it isn't too late, you can still save CCP. It takes a big man to admit he is wrong, show us you are a big man.
Oftherocks Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.10.15 07:56:00 - [7] Originally by: Halleck Gurney This sounds like a plan of Dr. Evil "Dr. Evil" ... and then we will cancel the ghosttraining forcing all of them to permanent payment plans, making us millions, MUHAHAHAHA ... "Nr. 1" ... and what if they decide to leave Dr. Evil ? "Dr. Evil" ... shyte ... hello people, need the info !!!! This made me smile, thank you.
Oftherocks Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.10.15 09:39:00 - [8] Originally by: Max Khaos If your not payin then your not playin ........ No if's or but's ....... Pay up or shutup ... Playin' ain't gettin' sp, if you think it is you really don't get eve.

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