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Zebba
Gallente
The Phoenix Rising
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Posted - 2008.11.04 13:47:00 -
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Wow.... I never thought I would want to write anything in this forum.
Well, today a friend dropped me a line: I got a problem... and he told me his skill training, his ghost training as it is named has stopped. So we did some research and found this forum post.
i understand the various reasons CCP had to this in place and in some way I even agree with their reasons.
But there is one thing I do not agree with: the way to pass this information to people that did ghost training.
There was a newsletter on the 16th of October, three days after the announcement, but there was no hint about this thing. How many people reactivate their account to find out what changed?
You posted it in the section that is only accessable for active accounts, great job. You posted it in the forums... well, how many inactive people take a look at the forums?
As stated before: I do unterstand your reasons but I do not like the way you put it in place.
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Zebba
Gallente
The Phoenix Rising
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Posted - 2008.11.12 19:33:00 -
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 Originally by: Andreas Syneticus
I think the Ghost Training removal is fair on CCP's part. The only people *****ing about Ghost Training are those training up 10 Capital alts with the intention of selling... An exploitation of CCP's generosity imo. It could be far worse - EVE could have a skilling model based on your time spent in-game. *cringe*
I believe the lack of Ghost Training should pave the way for Skill Queue/Scheduling. If we're now paying for total skill development, give us the ability to stack a queue of skills. I'm paying for the time anyway, there should be no loss to CCP and I won't have to worry about missing out on hours/days of unused train time if I can't get online on a weekend. It's Win-Win.
I think you are wrong. Many people that played EVE for years by now get from time to time bored and used the feature (which it was, stated somewhere along this thread) with the perspective to come back after a while. I used this especially when I was busy at university.
CCP should really care about what thousands of people wrote here by now. Everybody was able to use this feature since nobody was forced to use a CC in order to play.
I started paying by CC. At that time it was 15 Euros or 15 Dollars, so more for Europeans anyway. Later I switched to GTCs due to my studies.
This issue is not solved yet!
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Zebba
Gallente
The Phoenix Rising
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Posted - 2008.11.13 09:59:00 -
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Lately we saw the introduction of the 60-days GTC and the removal of the 30-days GTC. I think we all agree this had quite an effect on ghost training already. With this change even a GTC-payed account would be payed roughly 75% of the year.
Now when I first came across the removal of ghost training I was wondering where it was stated from the player base that this might be a bug in the game. Taking a look into the Assembly Hall forum I finally found a 4 pages thread about the topic 8http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=786801). Now if you read carefully through this thread you see a lot of disagreement and also a very different idea by the player-base. People were not complaining about SP-gain while being offline but their concern was the RP-gain. From what I understood the CSM was meant to give voice to the players. This should have been a topic for the 2nd CSM meeting...
I do understand CCP's economic point of view but as it was stated by others as well: their information politics failed! They did not make sure this important change in gameplay was taken to every player out there.
CCP happily sends out newsletter for every expansion they publish so why did they refuse to provide this important information to make sure 99% of the player-base know about it?
Where was the information about disabling ghost training other then in the only accessable for active account players news center and the forum a regular inactive player would not take a look into?
Oh and by the way: if ghost training was not an intended feature as CCP stated in the blog (http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=592) what was the original idea behind it?
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Zebba
Gallente
Northwind Research Agency
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Posted - 2008.11.24 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Terces Yp's
This thread is no longer significant to CCP anymore... give it up people & surrender!
I believe it is a good thing to keep this thread going. Simply to show that there is a large number of people that care about the issue and how it was established.
And I can imagine they see this thread and are still confused people keep posting.
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Zebba
Gallente
Northwind Research Agency
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Posted - 2008.12.15 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Gotrek Gurnisson
And why not announce such a major change 2-3 months ahead allowing people time to get used to the idea and make plans accordingly. 2 days is NOT enough warning.
This is exactly the topic of the thread and the focus of our complains. Too bad too few realize that.
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Zebba
Gallente
Northwind Research Agency
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Posted - 2009.01.08 15:48:00 -
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We are working on it. Because the issue is still there even in 2009. And personally: I'm still waiting for an apologize for the short notice. |
Zebba
Northwind Research Agency
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Posted - 2009.06.04 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Seluko
Edited by: Seluko on 31/05/2009 04:05:44
No replies in over 10 days! A travesty I say.
PS. Bring back ghost training
I guess we are still around.
The second post in this thread actually sums up quite good what the problem still is: CCP, you failed to make sure everyone knew about this.
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