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Drake Draconis
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.10.16 22:26:00 -
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I honestly don't get what the hell the problem is. If your so upset... then stop playing.
Money talks... not whiners.
If they see a major drop off in subscriptions... then you will get there attention.
No ones forcing you to pay for something you don't like.
So leave already.... and let the rest of us brainwashed folk continue playing the game.

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Drake Draconis
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.10.16 22:26:00 -
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I honestly don't get what the hell the problem is. If your so upset... then stop playing.
Money talks... not whiners.
If they see a major drop off in subscriptions... then you will get there attention.
No ones forcing you to pay for something you don't like.
So leave already.... and let the rest of us brainwashed folk continue playing the game.

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Marlona Sky
Caldari Astroglide X
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Posted - 2008.10.17 00:16:00 -
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Training is playing. If you want to play you should pay.
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Marlona Sky
Caldari Astroglide X
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Posted - 2008.10.17 00:16:00 -
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Training is playing. If you want to play you should pay.
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Another Forum'Alt
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Posted - 2008.10.17 12:11:00 -
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This is not part of my sig.
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MS Stanis
Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.17 12:28:00 -
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how do you make the thumbs up and down ?
Just wanna qoute Dennis Leary: " STFU NEXT !"
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Zathrus
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Posted - 2008.10.17 13:19:00 -
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You are correct I only have 29M SP and have been playing every day I'm off work since making my charicters. Just because you are a new player do not think you can not do anything.
Originally by: Raymond Sterns
Originally by: Sanadis Edited by: Sanadis on 14/10/2008 22:39:40
Originally by: Zathrus So if I do not pay my account my charicters stop training till I pay my account.
I can live with that.
Same here. People need to stop crying about the change and get the hell over it. CCP is not going to change their mind just because of a bunch of whiners are telling them to. Life goes on, get over it.
Easy for you to say, you're not the one who's only got 15 mill SP and can only use T2 small hybrids.
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Sky Marshal
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.10.17 14:46:00 -
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Edited by: Sky Marshal on 17/10/2008 14:56:44
Originally by: Becq Starforged * If I go to a restaurant with seven friends and pay for three meals, should I expect the restaurant to feed all eight of us? [...Etc...]
It is annoying to see the "Service ? Pay" argument all the time, when in the real world, there is also some counter-exemples.
In France, "Mobicarte" (and others) cards permits to emit/receive phone calls, and have a number phone, for a limited amount of money. But if you use all the emit credits or don't use it, you still keep your number phone and the capacity to receive calls with, for six months, without having to pay anything more (after 6 months you have to pay, or more earlier to be able to emit).
It is unfair about all others persons who pay a monthly subscription to emit AND receive phone calls, isn't it ?
No, this is business. This motivates to buy new credits.
EVE Online did this too. We paid to be able to play, but if we stop, we still have some skills points, but not able to play, do missions, etc... So this motivated to return to EVE Online after a small break.
CCP decided to retire it instead of doing a compromise, and did a really bad communication about it, calling implicitly all users of this maybe "unintended" feature like cheaters.
Sorry but this is difficult to accept that.
If I remember correctly (I can be wrong), CCP say that after the account is expired, the skill point progression will stop within 3 days. It is possible to do a compromise of the suppression of this feature as the infrastructure is online, like stop it but after 15/20 days. Not unlimited, make more difficult to do some abuses, but this keep the capacity of EvE to remotivate players to come back.
Quote: Training is playing. If you want to play you should pay.
Because you "play" and have fun when you see the progress bar of a skill gain a nano-pixel ?
Curious definition of "playing" 
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Raymond Sterns
Utopian Research I.E.L. The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2008.10.17 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Zathrus You are correct I only have 29M SP and have been playing every day I'm off work since making my charicters. Just because you are a new player do not think you can not do anything.
Excuse me?
My first account dates back as early 2004. (Messed up attributes, abandoned.)
This account is from 2005. I've quit EVE a total of 3 times (including this time). I'm anything *but* new, so you should probably get your facts straight before poastin, k? _ Hooray for shitty marketing moves.
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DrAtomic
Atomic Heroes
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Posted - 2008.10.17 15:41:00 -
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Edited by: DrAtomic on 17/10/2008 15:42:18 In all honesty I think it is fair for CCP to stop providing service to unpaid accounts, however they should realise why there are so many alt accounts; the limitations of the skill system. Or in effect the silly long real time it takes for skills to progress. Thus forcing people who like to enjoy all content of the game into having multiple accounts. - - -
Originally by: CCP Wrangler If you can understand our goal, disagree with our solution and offer a solution that is equal or better your opinion has a better chance of being heard...
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KAELA MENSHA
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Posted - 2008.10.17 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: DrAtomic Edited by: DrAtomic on 17/10/2008 15:42:18 In all honesty I think it is fair for CCP to stop providing service to unpaid accounts, however they should realise why there are so many alt accounts; the limitations of the skill system. Or in effect the silly long real time it takes for skills to progress. Thus forcing people who like to enjoy all content of the game into having multiple accounts.
And everything in eve revolves around team play, again to promote multiple accounts.
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Silvana Kor'ah
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Posted - 2008.10.18 02:17:00 -
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@ all who don't see a problem with this, stating "if you wanna play pay"
It's just not that easy, cause EVEs design is different. You don't gain EP, you just skill over time. In all other MMOs, you'r free to make a new toon and bash monsters and experience the other races/classes. That's just not possible in eve and the major reason for the amazing ammount of alts.
I don't have a particular problem with the removal of ghost training. If there is no ghost training, i won't make an alt cause i just don't see a reason to pay 2 accounts for the same game 
This beeing said, my problem is that ghost training was an advertised feature till 3 days ago. I would never have created a 2nd account, and i won't activate it again. I just wasted time and money for nearly a year now, and this is ****shit.
Furthermore, this change will do eve no good. I see many 2nd/3rd ect accounts expire, and eve will loose a major feature. In summer, i rather be outside, play beach volleyball or whatever. But when my ghost skill finished, i reactived my accounts. Won't do that now. This applies as well when u feel burned out. But well, that'll be CCPs problem, not mine.
This change is just not smart, as it will not get CCP more profit but upset the playerbase.
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CCP Applebabe

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Posted - 2008.10.18 02:47:00 -
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Please keep the discussion to the relevant thread here. Applebabe Community Representative CCP Games, EVE Online Email / Netfang
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