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Fhalgorn
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Posted - 2008.10.16 11:02:00 -
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Edited by: Fhalgorn on 16/10/2008 11:03:08
As title says it,with the upcomming patch it would only be fair that we get all of our SP invested in matari ships (aka obsolete ships) soo we can all invest it in caldari soo we can missile blob each other.
I realy do not understand why you caved in and listened to the noobs that cant get it threw their thick skull that the flying paper balls that go very fast have had 1bil+ invested in them and they cant solo kill it in a BS that moves at 2m/year.
The speed nerf is uncalled for ,it's application atleast and it just shows the favoritism on Caldari and the fact that CCP wants to remove Minmatar from the game.
THERE IS A EXTREMLY EASY SOLUTION TO FIXING THE OP (1bil+ nano ships) without nerfing a whole freaking race.Add a maximum speed cap to some ships that arent ment to go that fast,for exemple leave the nano-HACs with unlimited speed cap but add a speed cap to different BS and such,like a max of 1.5km/sec (with a slow accelaration after 1km/sec mark),it will not punish the innocent and it will be alot easy to implement.
Also you nerf speed,then nerf anti-nano mods like the webber... basicly reverting back to the original scheme mostly.
Soo a summary: Either buff Minmatar ships and bring them in line on direct engagements with the other races or USE a alternate sollution to solving the speed problems,like hand out free hankerchiefs each time a CNR pilot cant solo kill a inty.
/discuss
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.10.16 11:03:00 -
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No. Stop failing.
(I have an alt with 36m sp in matari gunnery and spaceship command, so yea, I have a right to post here)
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.16 11:03:00 -
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Yeah and I want my sp replaced for amarr a year ago, and for amarr 3 years ago and...
Well you get my point.
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Odessima
Caldari
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2008.10.16 11:16:00 -
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Fail! Adapt or Die isnt that what Nano Pilots always say. Fail due to failure to actually understand that they are also working on missiles as well so they dont WTFPWN, fail due to so many different reasons!! Go buy a box of tissues |
goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.16 11:17:00 -
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 Originally by: Odessima
Fail! Adapt or Die isnt that what Nano Pilots always say. Fail due to failure to actually understand that they are also working on missiles as well so they dont WTFPWN, fail due to so many different reasons!! Go buy a box of tissues
You were waiting a while to say this didnt you?
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Lafe
Baptism oF Fire
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.10.16 11:47:00 -
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Failsauce
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LadyLubU2
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.10.16 11:59:00 -
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Nerf falcons tbh.
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NARF FALCONS!!!
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Syekuda
Caldari
Titanium Guard
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Posted - 2008.10.16 12:07:00 -
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Major fail decided to talk. Anyway, look at history. Its called balancing. People whine about speed, CCP decide to please the crowd. they take down speed. eventually people will get happy...I think.
After that balance has taken its toll, who knows, maybe lots of people will go with amarr and whine about their cap issues and CCP will balance it. You just need to adapt.
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LadyLubU2
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.10.16 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: Syekuda
Major fail decided to talk. Anyway, look at history. Its called balancing. People whine about speed, CCP decide to completly screw over the balance and metagaming. they take down speed in a unnessecairy way. eventually people will get happy...I think.
here, i fixed it for you
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NARF FALCONS!!!
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The Djego
Minmatar
merovinger inc
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Posted - 2008.10.16 12:13:00 -
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Edited by: The Djego on 16/10/2008 12:13:23
Originally by: Fhalgorn
leave the nano-HACs with unlimited speed cap but add a speed cap to different BS and such
Originally by: Fhalgorn
leave the nano-HACs with unlimited speed cap but add a speed cap to different BS and such
The soultion, nerf allready slow BS even more(that is this good that it¦s allready done by CCP a year ago in the first Nano ballance), fixes all EvE once and for all. 
You read it here first.
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Nerf Tank - Boost Gank!
Originally by: Amantus
Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2008.10.16 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Fhalgorn
/discuss
K, I'll bite and discuss your post.
1. Bolding text doesn't make things more true.
2. Bolding, italic-ing and underlining at the same time doesnt make things more true
3. Capatilizing and italic-ing doesn't make things more true.
4. Nano-HAC's aren't innocent.
5. Amarr never got SP reimbursement. Nor would any Amarr pilot want one these days. Stick to your minnie SP, you'll get another day in the sun.
6. If you recently invested 1 bil+ into nano ships, you're an idiot.
7. If you invested before the dev blog about speed, you've had 3 months to enjoy it and at least 2 more months to come. If you haven't managed to get your ship destroyed by that time, you've become the living proof of why nano ships should be nerfed.
8. Even before the dev blog the writing was on the wall. If the majority of the players move to a couple of ships with the same kind of setup, you can tell a nerf will be coming. The only question is the severity of it.
9. You don't give a damn about minmatar ships. You just don't like having your overpowered pwn-mobile being taken away from you.
Finally, Caldari? Missed the bit about missiles being changed alongside with the speednerf?
Consensus these days seems to be that Amarr is the race to train. |
Mifter Hogdido
Amarr
eXceed Inc.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.10.16 12:26:00 -
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To OP -
Stop whining. Similar to others, I've flown amarr for a good while, came into it during the bad times and stuck with it, and were finally starting to shine (again apparently). Welcome to where we were a couple years ago, and adapt like we did.
a.k.a - stop failing  |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2008.10.16 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Washell Olivaw
5. Amarr never got SP reimbursement. Nor would any Amarr pilot want one these days. Stick to your minnie SP, you'll get another day in the sun.
People keep being too focused on the FotM's and miss out this point you (and others) mentioned here.
For years I stuck with Amarr while dying to any pilot I met that had nos fitted, which was basicly.. most people. I figured from the start that going FotM (Gallente and/or Minmatar) would screw me over in the long run. Stayed with Amarr, and well it did take a crapload of time, but it does pay off.
Whoever feel screwed over now should just try specialize in what they want to fly, they'll be better off in whatever, as long as they fly it well. Chasing the FotM might very well mean they screw over the SP forever.. and won't fly anything decently. 
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Laughlyn Vaughns
Gallente
Lagos-Vaughn Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.16 12:37:00 -
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Anyone remmeber the missile nerf where they introduced all the new skills and stopped torps one popping frigs? Yeah we got used to it. I mainly use Caldari and Minmatar ships and i've never used the nano setups, simply cos i think its a bit weak, guess i'm more of a traditional duelist and it shud be more to do with ur skills and ability to handle your ship instead of running round very fast out the way. But maybe more thought into the whole nano ship thing could be done instead of just messing with speeds/mass of ships and other modules but really i thought the idea of ceptors was to buzz round being annoyign to bigger ships while remaing almost untouchable to a big ship like a BS.
I'm sure we'll all grumble for a month or 2 like we did with every other nerf thats dropped in game because our simple stick on a nano fit ships wont do the job anymore, i think CCP just want us to use our imaginations in fitting ships up a bit
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Dr Sheepbringer
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Posted - 2008.10.16 12:57:00 -
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Too bad you thought speed would last forever! Bwwaahahaha!
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Miyamoto Uroki
Caldari
Katsu Corporation
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Posted - 2008.10.16 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Washell Olivaw
Originally by: Fhalgorn
/discuss
K, I'll bite and discuss your post.
1. Bolding text doesn't make things more true.
2. Bolding, italic-ing and underlining at the same time doesnt make things more true
3. Capatilizing and italic-ing doesn't make things more true.
4. Nano-HAC's aren't innocent.
5. Amarr never got SP reimbursement. Nor would any Amarr pilot want one these days. Stick to your minnie SP, you'll get another day in the sun.
6. If you recently invested 1 bil+ into nano ships, you're an idiot.
7. If you invested before the dev blog about speed, you've had 3 months to enjoy it and at least 2 more months to come. If you haven't managed to get your ship destroyed by that time, you've become the living proof of why nano ships should be nerfed.
8. Even before the dev blog the writing was on the wall. If the majority of the players move to a couple of ships with the same kind of setup, you can tell a nerf will be coming. The only question is the severity of it.
9. You don't give a damn about minmatar ships. You just don't like having your overpowered pwn-mobile being taken away from you.
Finally, Caldari? Missed the bit about missiles being changed alongside with the speednerf?
Consensus these days seems to be that Amarr is the race to train.
This. all of it. simply the truth, nothing more to say left.
oh and can I marry you? 
Originally by: Puupuu
dude... your face
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2008.10.16 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Miyamoto Uroki
oh and can I marry you?
Depends, are you rich? Will there be pre-nups? If not, will the honeymoon suite have a balcony and be on the 10th story of an hotel?
Originally by: Signature
Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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Jach Wong
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Posted - 2008.10.16 14:29:00 -
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Don't feed the troll.
"This is not the boot you're looking for." |
Keitaro Baka
Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises
Babylon Project
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Posted - 2008.10.16 14:53:00 -
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yawn, in two years minmatar will be uber again relatively, so keep your sp and shut u.. I mean adapt
All the stuff above does not necessarily reflect my corp, my alliance or even me..
Drone guide.. |
Traidor Disloyal
Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2008.10.16 15:49:00 -
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I fly Amarr.
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Love is having a second account with a cov ops pilot |
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
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Posted - 2008.10.16 17:00:00 -
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33M SP in Minmatar and another 30M in Gallente and I say no, I don't want a reimbursement. If I stick around for another couple of years the game will favor those characters again. I'll pass.
-Liang
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Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire
Liang/Vanesca - Order/Iron Rock@WAR
Liang - Destro/Azazel@WAR
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ElCoCo
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.16 17:23:00 -
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Train everything and you're nerf proof!
Boink! |
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
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Posted - 2008.10.16 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: ElCoCo
Train everything and you're nerf proof!
I endorsed this solution.
-Liang
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Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire
Liang/Vanesca - Order/Iron Rock@WAR
Liang - Destro/Azazel@WAR
www.kwikdeath.org |
ElCoCo
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.16 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: ElCoCo
Train everything and you're nerf proof!
I endorsed this solution.
-Liang
Tbh who doesn't have 2 accounts nowadays.
It's quite easy to have 2 nicely specced chars that fly 2 races each comfortably (no need for weapon spec lvl5 imho).
Besides that I don't realy see the problem, as -overall- things are pretty balanced and before you say anything, I can fly practicaly everything with just 1 char
Boink! |
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
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Posted - 2008.10.16 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: ElCoCo
Tbh who doesn't have 2 accounts nowadays.
It's quite easy to have 2 nicely specced chars that fly 2 races each comfortably (no need for weapon spec lvl5 imho).
Besides that I don't realy see the problem, as -overall- things are pretty balanced and before you say anything, I can fly practicaly everything with just 1 char
Yeah, I run 3 30M+ SP characters. Gallente/Caldari (Hybrid/Drone), Caldari (Missile), and Minmatar (Gunnery). I figured as long as Amarr isn't the *ONLY* viable race I'd be fine... fly everything, be nerf proof!
-Liang
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Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire
Liang/Vanesca - Order/Iron Rock@WAR
Liang - Destro/Azazel@WAR
www.kwikdeath.org |
Xori Ruscuv
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.10.16 18:00:00 -
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Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 16/10/2008 18:00:53
Originally by: Liang Nuren
figured as long as Amarr isn't the *ONLY* viable race I'd be fine... fly everything, be nerf proof!
This.
Though I'm just going to be semi-patient and do it on one character I suppose. I'm too lazy/poor to run 3 accounts, let alone play more than 1 at a time ^^
(Though I'm not dumb enough to try to be a missile and shield and gun and armor expert anytime soon. Armor and guns for the forseeable future ^^)
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B0rn2KiLL
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.16 18:02:00 -
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i fly matar... i used to fly caldari.
much happier since the switch. i dont use nano ships, and im happy. you have a problem :\
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Originally by: Oveur
It's important to understand that EVE is a "PvP" focused game
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Sean Faust
Gallente
Point of No Return
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Posted - 2008.10.16 18:39:00 -
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Edited by: Sean Faust on 16/10/2008 18:39:55
To the OP: Your problem is not with Eve or with CCP. It is with MMO games. The complaints you're making, while valid, are just something you have to put up with when playing MMOs. Whether it's Eve, WOW, Warhammer Online, or any other game. The fact is that in any MMO there will be periodic content patches that change game mechanics forcing you to change your playstyle in order to remain dominant. If this wasn't the case, gameplay would become stagnant.
Eve is better than other games as you don't have to start out from scratch on a new character when gameplay changes bring "hard times" for the class/race you play. You can simply cross train, so that when it happens again, you are now able to fly multiple races and will always have a viable ship to fly in a gang.
I fly both Amarr and Gallente equally well and can gladly say that regardless of what gameplay changes bring about, adapting is simply a matter of buying and fitting up a new ship. And in the event a patch comes that nerfs the hell out of BOTH of those races, I'll be fine training up Caldari. The missile skills I trained up to get good with the Sacrilege will carry over, as will the shield skills I trained up to get a good buffer on my nano ships.
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Timple Smythe
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Posted - 2008.10.16 19:04:00 -
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Just train for the Typhoon. If you can fly it well, then you will be ready for mosy nerfs. BTW i have lots of Typhoons for sale at only slightly higher than market value. I think everyone should fly Typhoon's.
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KD.Fluffy
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.10.16 20:09:00 -
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Amarr bs 5 finishes in 3 days... mwahahahaha
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