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MenanceWhite
Amarr Red Light Navy
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Posted - 2008.10.16 12:34:00 -
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Since the nerf the myrm has basicly been a somewhat tougher vexor. But it's drone DPS is still just exactly the same as that of the Vexor.
Could we get myrm drone bandwidth increased to 95 or at least 80 it can use 2x heavy 3x medium drones? ---
Originally by: Torfi There's alot. That can be done. With.. corpses
Originally by: Oveur
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MenanceWhite
Amarr Red Light Navy
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Posted - 2008.10.16 12:34:00 -
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Since the nerf the myrm has basicly been a somewhat tougher vexor. But it's drone DPS is still just exactly the same as that of the Vexor.
Could we get myrm drone bandwidth increased to 95 or at least 80 it can use 2x heavy 3x medium drones? ---
Originally by: Torfi There's alot. That can be done. With.. corpses
Originally by: Oveur
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.10.16 13:17:00 -
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Edited by: Gneeznow on 16/10/2008 13:17:14 Yes please
edit: Eos too
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Rivqua
Caldari Omega Wing R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.10.16 13:25:00 -
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Vexor has 100 bandwith ;-) Myrm is still way more powerful.
/Riv
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Wannabehero
Caldari Absolutely No Retreat
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Posted - 2008.10.16 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Rivqua Vexor has 100 bandwith ;-) Myrm is still way more powerful.
/Riv
Navy Issue Vexor has 100 mbit bandwidth, regular Vexor cruiser is 75 like the Myrm.
I am all for increasing the myrmidon drone bandwidt by 15 - 25, but this would most likely need to be accompanied by removing a gun hardpoint. --
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MenanceWhite
Amarr Red Light Navy
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Posted - 2008.10.18 01:58:00 -
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This is a small deal compared to other things but well, let's not let it die yet. ---
Originally by: Torfi There's alot. That can be done. With.. corpses
Originally by: Oveur
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Dyaven
Interstellar Mining and Research
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Posted - 2008.10.18 02:03:00 -
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Myrm definately needs at least 100mb imo, but I see absolutely no reason why the Eos should not have 125mb.
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Asuka SoryuLangley
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Posted - 2008.10.18 08:24:00 -
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Originally by: Dyaven Myrm definately needs at least 100mb imo, but I see absolutely no reason why the Eos should not have 125mb.
This man speaks the truth.
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Warrio
Southern Cross Incorporated Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.18 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Dyaven Myrm definately needs at least 100mb imo, but I see absolutely no reason why the Eos should not have 125mb.
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Strill
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Posted - 2008.10.18 08:46:00 -
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Originally by: Wannabehero
Originally by: Rivqua Vexor has 100 bandwith ;-) Myrm is still way more powerful.
/Riv
Navy Issue Vexor has 100 mbit bandwidth, regular Vexor cruiser is 75 like the Myrm.
I am all for increasing the myrmidon drone bandwidt by 15 - 25, but this would most likely need to be accompanied by removing a gun hardpoint.
No way. I hate ships with unused turret hardpoint graphics.
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Artemis Rose
Varion Galactic Accord Corporate Enterprise Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.10.18 08:47:00 -
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Doubt it will happen, though it would be nice
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.18 09:04:00 -
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Originally by: Warrio
Originally by: Dyaven Myrm definately needs at least 100mb imo, but I see absolutely no reason why the Eos should not have 125mb.
Flown a Vulture or Damnation recently?
And hey, guess what, both of those need a boost too. 7x guns for the Vulture, 7x launchers for the Damnation (and possibly HAM damage instead of one of the tank bonuses, if people really want it), 8th high for a gang mod on both ships. With that done, giving the Eos 125mb + bonus (damage, ewar drone strength, whatever) instead of the gun slots would be just fine.
As for the Myrmidon, yes. The nerf to 75mb was just massive overkill, and has left the Myrmidon a distant second to the Hurricane, and not even in the same game as the Harbinger/Drake.
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Fafnir Drake
Gallente Boob Heads Bionic Dawn
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Posted - 2008.10.18 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin As for the Myrmidon, yes. The nerf to 75mb was just massive overkill, and has left the Myrmidon a distant second to the Hurricane, and not even in the same game as the Harbinger/Drake.
Ya know, since that nerf, I've seen just a single Myrm in PvP, and not one Eos......
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Easley Thames
The Maverick Navy Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.10.18 10:07:00 -
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They went too far in the case of the Myrm's bandwith. I also feel the significant nerf to nos weakened the ship significantly.
It was a great close quarters vampire / heavy drone boat, overpowered even, but currently it just feels a bit lacking.
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Tac Ginaz
The Righteous Few
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Posted - 2008.10.19 07:30:00 -
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CCP should add a hislot item that adds +Drone bandwith to the ships.
that way pure drone boats could BE drone boats.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.10.19 07:44:00 -
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Myrmidon already does a significant amount of damage while having a very good active tank as well as a 5th mid slot. Compared to the armor tanked hurricane and the myrm is clearly superior at in-your-face ranges.
If you really want more bandwidth on the myrm, then get ready for a fairly significant powergrid and/or turret slot nerf.
That being said, a bump to 80 bandwidth so you wouldn't have to carry that silly light drone would be awesome --
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.10.19 09:29:00 -
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Originally by: Strill
Originally by: Wannabehero
Originally by: Rivqua Vexor has 100 bandwith ;-) Myrm is still way more powerful.
/Riv
Navy Issue Vexor has 100 mbit bandwidth, regular Vexor cruiser is 75 like the Myrm.
I am all for increasing the myrmidon drone bandwidt by 15 - 25, but this would most likely need to be accompanied by removing a gun hardpoint.
No way. I hate ships with unused turret hardpoint graphics.
CCP, fix my harbinger! >:(( __________________________________
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.10.19 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: MenanceWhite Since the nerf the myrm has basicly been a somewhat tougher vexor. But it's drone DPS is still just exactly the same as that of the Vexor.
Could we get myrm drone bandwidth increased to 95 or at least 80 it can use 2x heavy 3x medium drones?
That's why it has 6 turret hardpoints, and enough fitting space to use it. Or is 800dps somehow not enough for you? -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking? |
Barsexual
Castle Greyskull
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Posted - 2008.10.19 10:11:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus
Originally by: MenanceWhite Since the nerf the myrm has basicly been a somewhat tougher vexor. But it's drone DPS is still just exactly the same as that of the Vexor.
Could we get myrm drone bandwidth increased to 95 or at least 80 it can use 2x heavy 3x medium drones?
That's why it has 6 turret hardpoints, and enough fitting space to use it. Or is 800dps somehow not enough for you?
show me an 800 dps myrmidon that doesn't sacrifice everything you douche bag
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2008.10.19 10:14:00 -
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Bit more bandwidth on the Myrmi? sure.
Originally by: Merin Ryskin Damnation (and possibly HAM damage instead of one of the tank bonuses, if people really want it)
No thanks. I know people want this change on the Sacrilege, and there's some reasons to argue for it as well. Personally I dislike that idea tho. Look at all the ships Amarr has with this bonus, it's quite a few, hell it even goes from our smaller ships up to our capitals, even the mothership.
With the speedchange there's a chance these tank bonuses gets more valid again. If you recall, they used to be quite useful at one point before as well.
The Damnation is the last ship that potentially should lose this bonus tbh. It's a fleet ship. It's too slow for small gangs, get another racial CS for that job. Instead, it's really sturdy, and it can be fielded in a big fleet, especially with RR BS. The tank bonus is ideal for the job it does.
I'm not sure it needs an extra launcher either, just because the monster tank. I know the doctrine of most fleets is to fit for damage as it is, the Damnation + damage isn't two words that function together as it is. And tbh, that's perfectly fine, because it has a role where the other 3 Fleet-CS' doesn't work as good. I fly several of these as it is and I take the ship that's needed for the job. Damnation is for big fleets. The others for small(er).
And aye tbh the Eos could really use some love as it is today.
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Taco Raptorian
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2008.10.19 11:30:00 -
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A drone damage bonus is a joke on a ship bigger than a cruiser with only 75mb bandwidth.
That's like giving a battle ship bonus to medium guns.
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Harrana
Total Mayhem.
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Posted - 2008.10.19 11:33:00 -
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Edited by: Harrana on 19/10/2008 11:37:26 I think something does have to change with the Myrmidon, because at the moment I can find little it does that would make me choose it over a Dominix?
Price? Barely. Damage? No. Tank? Definitly not. Speed? Nope. Agility? Lol. SP? Hardly.
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Kirtan Loor
Divine Retribution Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2008.10.19 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tac Ginaz CCP should add a hislot item that adds +Drone bandwith to the ships.
that way pure drone boats could BE drone boats.
This is a good idea...3 different sizes for 3 different ship sizes with according powergrid needs...like 5mbit-15pg-50(?)CPU, 10mbit-150pg-60(?)CPU, 25mbit-1500pg-70(?)CPU.
..and as final step increase ALL ships dronebay's by 25-50% so people can have option of using more drones simultaneously at the expense of high slots. This would give people another option for unused high slots.
Oh...this should also come with a slight nerf to arbitrator and vexor...they would do waaaay too much damage this way. I'm sure that there will be a lot more things to adjust, but that's nothing a few months on sisi can't rectify. |
MenanceWhite
Amarr Red Light Navy
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Posted - 2008.10.19 12:47:00 -
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Edited by: MenanceWhite on 19/10/2008 12:52:02
Originally by: James Lyrus
Originally by: MenanceWhite Since the nerf the myrm has basicly been a somewhat tougher vexor. But it's drone DPS is still just exactly the same as that of the Vexor.
Could we get myrm drone bandwidth increased to 95 or at least 80 it can use 2x heavy 3x medium drones?
That's why it has 6 turret hardpoints, and enough fitting space to use it. Or is 800dps somehow not enough for you?
It you're so EFTworrior highest theoretical dps possible compare that to the vexors 700 somethin DPS.
ohho, why don't we get 2 vexors instead of that myrm. ---
Originally by: Torfi There's alot. That can be done. With.. corpses
Originally by: Oveur
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