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Piper Halliwell
Minmatar
Phantom Squad
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.16 18:58:00 -
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I would support this if:
A) Rust had a variety of colors; 
B) Spray paint was available so others could ninja paint it for you 
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.10.16 19:09:00 -
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 Originally by: Snasty
Please never let this happen. The very reason you detail as a joke would become a reality.
This is and has been my objection to the painting issue as well.
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TheOtherDante
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Posted - 2008.10.16 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Piper Halliwell
I would support this if:
A) Rust had a variety of colors;
B) Spray paint was available so others could ninja paint it for you
i agree, i would love to leave giant quotes on the sides of poeples ships
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Karl Luckner
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Posted - 2008.10.16 19:59:00 -
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Well, most ships have already different paint scemes implemented in the game. Caracal has at least four. Mordus/Mercs, CN, standard and guristas paint sceme. Just let the the player select one out of four alternatives. Job done.
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Hooded Person
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.10.16 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
No. We all know what awesomness would be unleashed.
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Vegetable Goodsoup
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Posted - 2008.10.16 20:43:00 -
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Will agree with paiting ships if any ship that has more than 1% of it's surface painted in pink gets a -99% HP and dmg penalty.
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Piper Halliwell
Minmatar
Phantom Squad
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.16 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Vegetable Goodsoup
Will agree with paiting ships if any ship that has more than 1% of it's surface painted in pink gets a -99% HP and dmg penalty.
Drakes will still tank you 
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Dihania
Gallente
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.10.16 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: Mograph
i want to paint my ship all pink and add pictures of angels on it!
well not really but please please add a skinning option to ships with a few layers of customization ala forza motorsport. or if not that let me choose a colour,
This would be a nice thing, entire gangs with ships painted in gang colors fighting each other.. Blood red pirate ships roaming low sec.
But NO. And the only reason I say no is because of the lag it would generate. Yes the ship color is done by your computer, by the client, but the information is sent to the server, because the player piloting the other ship you meet has to see the color of your ship too, just as you have to see the color of his ship.
All this extra traffic will be added to all the other lag factors. And even if you have the ability to disable the skin display of others, not all will do it, most will let it on because the ships are pretty.
Also, not all like this idea and not all would appreciate pink ships in space, but all hate lag. So we have a common front against lag and separate fronts on the ship skins and coloring.
I want my gang fights and my solo fights to go flawlessly and user customized ship skins is something that is not needed, nice addition, but not very important; and it sits in front of my wish for no lag, saying "no, we are pretty and we will generate lag".
Now count how many times I typed lag.
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Jean Curtien
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Posted - 2008.10.16 21:18:00 -
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If this happened, all Armageddons would instantly be pink because everyone thinks they're so original and wants to be a comedy superstar on the internet. All other ships would be black and be renamed 'Death Killer __' or 'Sephiroth's Ship' or some such nonsense. Then you'd have people like me that would paint our ships in bright primary/secondary colors, just to see how intense a green or orange we can stick on our domis. Nevermind the tech 2 ships losing the majority of their visal distinctiveness. This is just a terrible idea.
...I want a bright orange domi so bad...
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Del Narveux
Dukes of Hazard
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Posted - 2008.10.16 23:10:00 -
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FYI to everyone going on about extra lag, it could be done with one integer. Or three, if you want to go the Tabula Rasa route with fully customizable* colors. One integer is pretty negligible in terms of bandwidth and so forth.
*It should be noted that those blasphemers fail hard for using CMY, everyone knows real men use good ole fashioned RGB cause its better 
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Beltantis Torrence
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Posted - 2008.10.16 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: Zhenga
do you know how much more lag this would add to the game?? 
No, do you?
But in any case you are implying that the programmers at CCP are inferior to those at NcSoft. Cause you have been able to customise the armour in Tabula Rasa since day one.
A) Tabula Rasa does not play host to 800+ fleet fights with the gazillion data items and calculations to keep up with.
B) If you could customize your ships look then I guarantee that a corp would make up scores of special white noise texures that are nearly impossible to compress and would amount to gigabytes of data to be tranferred to each and every ship in the fight on loading the grid. Queue jump in slaughter and a quick node death.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Say the idea is tacky (it is), but don't tell me CCP can't figure out how to put a size limit on textures.
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Odhinn Vinlandii
Shadows of the Dead
Elitist Cowards
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Posted - 2008.10.16 23:16:00 -
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Originally by: Zhenga
do you know how much more lag this would add to the game??
None.
Dev's already said they could have an unlimited amount of unique customizations for ambulation character/clothing details.
Why not ships to.
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Beltantis Torrence
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Posted - 2008.10.16 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Dihania
But NO. And the only reason I say no is because of the lag it would generate. Yes the ship color is done by your computer, by the client, but the information is sent to the server, because the player piloting the other ship you meet has to see the color of your ship too, just as you have to see the color of his ship.
All this extra traffic will be added to all the other lag factors.
Having read further into the thread, now this is the dumbest thing I've ever read.
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Cat Molina
Minmatar
Psychotic Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.16 23:33:00 -
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Minnie Target Painters come into their own. We get to paint ugly graffiti on other people's ships.
Finally! EW that's worth a damn.
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Snake Doctor
MacroIntel
United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2008.10.16 23:58:00 -
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Edited by: Snake Doctor on 16/10/2008 23:57:52
Stabber/Vaga with a Flying Tigers' shark jaw. Oh yeah.
http://www.talkingproud.us/ImagesHistory/EarthquakeMcGoon/FlyingTigerFormation.jpg
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MooKids
Caldari
Dark Echo Engineering
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Posted - 2008.10.17 02:26:00 -
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Somehow I don't think reskinning models with multiple surfaces would require changing "one integer".
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Posted - 2008.10.17 02:33:00 -
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Originally by: DukeHilton
Originally by: Meeogi
On a serious note...I think being able to put player "combat" ship kills on the side of a ship would be cool...like the old ww2 planes. Wouldn't take up much code at all....hell just a tally line
Yes, that would be cool... Your ship should carry some sort of history with it... E.g. should be able to see the kills made with THAT particular ship etc...
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MiIes Naismith
Amarr
Guru Clan
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Posted - 2008.10.17 03:24:00 -
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maybe allowing something client side that didnt have to be loaded onto other peoples computers would be the answer. so ya you can see your skin but the only people hwo can see it besides you have to have the same skin in their client,
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Zeba
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.10.17 03:26:00 -
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Originally by: Beltantis Torrence
Originally by: Zeba
B) If you could customize your ships look then I guarantee that a corp would make up scores of special white noise texures that are nearly impossible to compress and would amount to gigabytes of data to be tranferred to each and every ship in the fight on loading the grid. Queue jump in slaughter and a quick node death.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Say the idea is tacky (it is), but don't tell me CCP can't figure out how to put a size limit on textures.
With CCP pulling every trick in the book to reduce server calls in every nook and cranny of eve I seriously doubt they would willing to try to add to the server load by letting player use custom textures. Besides to keep the total amount of textures at a limit so they don't lag out a session change would require a texture size so low as to be unusable and visibly horrble in quality.
So ain't gonna happen.
And as far as the tinting of ships to just make it a 1~3 integer data transfer it will completely break the look of Eve to have pink geddons and bright orange and purple domis. So I'll agree with Dirk that it also ain't gonna happen.
Originally by: Odhinn Vinlandii
Originally by: Zhenga
do you know how much more lag this would add to the game??
None.
Dev's already said they could have an unlimited amount of unique customizations for ambulation character/clothing details with no stress to the server and no lag to the client.
Why not ships to.
Ambulation will be on a separate server. So your characters won't be needing to send and receive zillions of updates on the state of a fight and the scores of other variables that make up the normal node load in space. This means they can use all that free power to go all out on the customization and detail of the ambulation enviroments and interactions. These will be two completely different games linked only by your assets and character data.
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Cat Molina
Minmatar
Psychotic Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.17 03:49:00 -
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Only if ship textures were stored on the client side, and made moddable, could you then change them with no increased lag (well... if you resized them greatly you'd lag your own machine... but not the server).
However, only you'd be able to see your custom texture, and changing the color of your Rifter would change the color of every Rifter you see in the game. 
So not workable. But fun to think about.
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pc dude
Ghosts of Ragnarok
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.10.17 03:50:00 -
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you know, CCP could just use customizable ship skins as another isk sink. make it costly and only doable in special NPC stations. make it cost say....1/2 as much as insurance on said ship. people will spend the isk, and it'll be the people w/ the isk to blow anyway. just think of all the motherships running around w/ nice pretty paint jobs and maybe add the paint job cost to killmails even. but anyway, the idea is just basically, if people will pay...
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E Vile
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.10.17 04:01:00 -
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I am all for painting ships. Can we get basic colors and designs? Like Star Wars Galaxies paint texture kits. Each ship has about 7 different paint designs then 2 choice color tones that design is colored in.
Custom art I can see being an issue, but not SOME texture/color choices.
If SOE can do it in Galaxies, I would be embarrased if CCP couldn't figure it out....
Shoot, look at all the custom avatar options in City of Heroes/Villians.
One EVE weakpoint has always been the ability for the player to customize.
I don't care if jokesters fly pink ships. If they want to present themself that way, let them.
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Snake Doctor
MacroIntel
United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2008.10.17 21:07:00 -
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I know there are screenshots of ships with logos on them, but I don't *remember* actually seeing it ingame.
It would be interesting to see what you'd find in empire...
(say what you mean doc...)
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Xavier Zedicus
Zardoz Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.10.17 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: MooKids
Somehow I don't think reskinning models with multiple surfaces would require changing "one integer".
he means just color adjustments not skining
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