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Pillowtalk
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.01 12:42:00 -
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Zaaark Quasar wrote:Stop suicide ganking.
It-¦s totally out of balance, there isn-¦t any other counter on it than not logging in or sitting in station. It doesn-¦t add anything in the sandbox, it just makes CCP lose subscriptions.
Suicide ganking is not pvp content, it-¦s just griefing.
Pilots that don-¦f have balls, should grow a pair and go to 0.0 or lowsec, or drop a war declaration. Those are good for the game.
One reason for EVE online low subscription number is the fact that this game is ******** towards new players and pve players.
PVE players do bring the same cash flow to CCP and if someone wants to spend 15$ montly just for shooting npc-¦s then so what? It doesn-¦t take anything away from 'pvp' pilots.
Suicide ganking doesn-¦t have any valid reasoning behind it, it-¦s just seriously bad game design.
CCP should really show some respect on all those players who pays their paychecks.
Don't listen to all the people bad mouthing you. They all suck so bad that they have had to grind out cash to replace the 100's of ships they have lost, and because misery loves company they think you should have to do the same.
They are just angry at themselves really, and because no one wants to yell at themselves they come here and yell at you. |
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.01 12:44:00 -
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So Sensational wrote:Zaaark Quasar wrote:Stop suicide ganking.
I agree, remove Concord, let players defend themselves.
I am actually for the removal of concorde. At least then I could just quit Eve and stop having to deal with monstrous grey area that keeps expanding and contracting. |
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.01 12:47:00 -
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If the guy in that killmail came here whining I would have to get on board with the rest of you and yell at him. Hauling 18 billion in Jita in a transport ship? It makes my soft carebear eyes bleed. |
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.01 12:52:00 -
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Francisco Bizzaro wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote: OP has a valid point, suicide attacks are slowly chasing away new subscription revenue that CCP is trying to gain.
What are these new subscribers flying that are so gank-worthy? Quote: Heh, high security, now that's definitely the biggest misrepresentation in use within this game.
I don't know what sec status my home town has, but Concord respond a hell of a lot quicker than the local cops and have a better success record at catching the bad guys. What more do you want from a police force? Seems pretty high-security to me.
Thats because your local police don't have SPACESHIPS with WARP DRIVE duhhh! |
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.01 12:54:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:I'll admit to being a complete carebear who doesn't indulge in PVP as such, yeah I screw people on the markets etc but I don't shoot at anything that isn't a red cross. With the amount of shiptoasting that's been spewing out of the "I'm a carebear and PVP'rs are doing it wrong crowd" I'm seriously considering buying up a ton of disposable ships and collecting me some tears . I used to get annoyed at the HTFU attitude of the PVP folks, after a couple of years in game I'm beginning to agree with them and rapidly beginning to see why they enjoy taunting us poor bears, some people just don't deserve to be in the same universe as the rest of us and I'm not talking about the PVP crowd.
Oh Gawd, bittervet syndrome is setting in. Quick, go mine something! |
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.01 12:55:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Zaaark Quasar wrote:Really, these npc alt forum spammers are the minority in EVE. We know you are. That's why we're saying GÇ£NoGÇ¥ to your OP.
Tippia, you're such an angry muffin. |
Pillowtalk
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Posted - 2012.04.01 13:19:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Pillowtalk wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:I'll admit to being a complete carebear who doesn't indulge in PVP as such, yeah I screw people on the markets etc but I don't shoot at anything that isn't a red cross. With the amount of shiptoasting that's been spewing out of the "I'm a carebear and PVP'rs are doing it wrong crowd" I'm seriously considering buying up a ton of disposable ships and collecting me some tears . I used to get annoyed at the HTFU attitude of the PVP folks, after a couple of years in game I'm beginning to agree with them and rapidly beginning to see why they enjoy taunting us poor bears, some people just don't deserve to be in the same universe as the rest of us and I'm not talking about the PVP crowd. Oh Gawd, bittervet syndrome is setting in. Quick, go mine something! Don't have enough time behind me for bittervet syndrome , although I am a member of Failheap so I'm slowly heading down that road and ugh mining, I'd rather flay myself and rub salt into the wounds than do that again
Oh come on! Let me set the mood...
You're in a backwoods dead end system, 1.0, no stations. Only one other mission runner in the system with you. Your home base in one jump over. 10 belts in the system, all are pristine and juicy to the point of bursting. You warp in with your two accounts, one in a hulk, the other in a maxed out orca. You put on some "insert favorite soothing music here", and listen to the rythmic hum of the mining lasers as you lean back and take a long drag from your pipe (yes, you smoke a pipe). As you leisurely drag your ore from your hold to the jetcan you quietly wonder how many miners were ganked down in 0.5 since you lit your pipe.
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Pillowtalk
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.01 13:30:00 -
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Francisco Bizzaro wrote:Pillowtalk wrote:Francisco Bizzaro wrote: I don't know what sec status my home town has, but Concord respond a hell of a lot quicker than the local cops and have a better success record at catching the bad guys. What more do you want from a police force? Seems pretty high-security to me.
Thats because your local police don't have SPACESHIPS with WARP DRIVE duhhh! Indeed. I'm glad you agree that Concord are already a very effective police force and do not need to be buffed further. High-sec is very (but not absolutely) safe, at least until they introduce doughnut shops to incarna. After that ... doughnut shops will be safe.
Actually I want an Eve PvE server. I've mentioned it several times before. It wouldn't be difficult to do (relatively speaking). Just replace what pirates and enemies do with NPCs. Within 6 months its population would greatly exceed that of TQ.
I don't think very many people understand that a TON of people in this game love the GAME, but not so much the agressive people in it. Also I don't think people realize how much less it irritates you when a computer blows you up as opposed to another human. I'm a science nerd, hence I naturally love Eve. But as a science nerd I don't particularly get any big thrills by "HAHA I blowed up ur ship!", whether I'm the one doing the blowing up, or if I am on the receiving end.
I mean lets look at the parts of Eve that are completely independent of PvP.
1) Phenomenol graphics. 2) Sci-Fi environment with good back story. 3) Rich and in depth player manufacturing. 4) Almost fully player driven economy. 5) Non cookie cutter approach to game design with almost infinite possibilites.
And then, PvP.
Yeah yeah, I know markets and manufacturing and all that are dependent on PvP you are going to say. Well, NPC's can be programmed to blow up a lot more stuff a lot faster then any human player or alliance ever could. And its a lot easier to tweak the rate at which they do when they are NPC's as opposed to humans. |
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.01 13:37:00 -
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Tippia wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:How about contributing some worthwhile discussion to the topic instead of getting all hostile? [GǪ]
so go ahead and get bent. Riiiight. Pillowtalk wrote:I mean lets look at the parts of Eve that are completely independent of PvP.
1) Phenomenol graphics. 2) Sci-Fi environment with good back story.
3) Rich and in depth player manufacturing.
4) Almost fully player driven economy.
5) Non cookie cutter approach to game design with almost infinite possibilites. The game design is entirely done with PvP in mind, and it's the player competition that gives rise to the GÇ£infinite possibilitiesGÇ¥. The other two would not exist without PvP. If you want to play the game you just described, go to Sisi. It's all there. You'll notice that it's not nearly as popular as you're expecting it to be.
Tippia, there is a line in "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" about where the pulse is, and how far from it you are. I've learned my lesson from my interactions with you. I won't even try to have a rational debate.
You just keep being angry honey. |
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.01 13:38:00 -
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Valek Noor wrote:Pillowtalk wrote:Francisco Bizzaro wrote:Pillowtalk wrote:Francisco Bizzaro wrote: I don't know what sec status my home town has, but Concord respond a hell of a lot quicker than the local cops and have a better success record at catching the bad guys. What more do you want from a police force? Seems pretty high-security to me.
Thats because your local police don't have SPACESHIPS with WARP DRIVE duhhh! Indeed. I'm glad you agree that Concord are already a very effective police force and do not need to be buffed further. High-sec is very (but not absolutely) safe, at least until they introduce doughnut shops to incarna. After that ... doughnut shops will be safe. Actually I want an Eve PvE server. I've mentioned it several times before. It wouldn't be difficult to do (relatively speaking). Just replace what pirates and enemies do with NPCs. Within 6 months its population would greatly exceed that of TQ. I don't think very many people understand that a TON of people in this game love the GAME, but not so much the agressive people in it. Also I don't think people realize how much less it irritates you when a computer blows you up as opposed to another human. I'm a science nerd, hence I naturally love Eve. But as a science nerd I don't particularly get any big thrills by "HAHA I blowed up ur ship!", whether I'm the one doing the blowing up, or if I am on the receiving end. I mean lets look at the parts of Eve that are completely independent of PvP. 1) Phenomenol graphics. 2) Sci-Fi environment with good back story. 3) Rich and in depth player manufacturing. 4) Almost fully player driven economy. 5) Non cookie cutter approach to game design with almost infinite possibilites. And then, PvP. Yeah yeah, I know markets and manufacturing and all that are dependent on PvP you are going to say. Well, NPC's can be programmed to blow up a lot more stuff a lot faster then any human player or alliance ever could. And its a lot easier to tweak the rate at which they do when they are NPC's as opposed to humans. Dude please go back to WOW and stop trying to ruin eve for those of us who have played it for 7+ years Its clear you have not tried any combat of any kind, you wont belive me but COMBAT IS WHAT THIS GAME IS ABOUT all the stuff your going on about was added to pad out the combat, nothing more. you may have missed all the whooha last year about this, we dont want barbies and the sims in space, this is about combat, conquest and politics. Please re read the manual about GETTING FRIENDS and playing with them your missing 95% of what eve has to offer and the part your asking to keep and that great!
How would having a PvE server in addition to TQ ruin Eve? lol
Man you guys are fanatical zealots.
And no, I'm not "missing" anything that I actually want to do. In fact I'm enjoying Eve a lot by doing what I do. But I don't PvP. I don't want to. If I wanna go kill someone in a video game I'll go play black ops where the only penalty I have from death is a couple second re-spawn time. Not hours of real life time lost.
You also used the word "we". Who is this "we" you speak of? Its impossible that you would be so pompous to actually think you could speak for everyone who plays Eve, so I must assume you have a mouse in your pocket. |
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Pillowtalk
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.01 13:46:00 -
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Valek Noor wrote:Pillowtalk wrote:
How would having a PvE server in addition to TQ ruin Eve? lol
Man you guys are fanatical zealots.
because its one universe and one war - idiot, not the fighting server and the carebear server how crap would that be! you clearly dont get what makes eve great and i dont know why i am talking with you
I was half way through typing out a response to you, then I realized you sound like a CCP marketing exec, so I'm just gunna pass you by.
And "idiot", really? We are talking about an internet spaceships game. If you get so worked up at someone having a different opinion than yours about an online game that you feel it necessary to call them an idiot, then perhaps you need reevaluate who you are as a person.
I say good day Sir! |
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