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Rok Hard
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Posted - 2008.10.18 12:26:00 -
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I agree with Warlord7 see Boycott thread.
I think CCP should bring back 30 and 90 day cards. One price point doesn't cut it for a lot of players. Back in the day 90 day cards were going for 300-400 mil, nowadays 490-500 seems to be the norm for a 60 day card.
In the past at least we had two price points 150-170 for 30 day cards and 300-400 for 90 day cards. At least we had a choice, more casual players could opt for a 30 day card and still have iskies left over to buy a shuttle. Power players could but a 90 day card and not have to worry about it for three months.
With just one product you get one price point which freezes out the more casual players or players who need to budget their iskies. I just think we should have more options when it comes to timecodes.
60 day prices seem to be climbing.
Buyer's unite we can't afford these prices to get away from us. Wouldn't you like to afford a t2 fit on that t1 frigate? t1 frigate is prolly all you can afford after buying a 60 day card for half a billion iskies.
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Alexis Rainbow
DEFCON. Pure.
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Posted - 2008.10.18 12:31:00 -
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/agree
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Meneia
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Posted - 2008.10.18 12:33:00 -
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/agree
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Achilles 10
Caldari Terrenus Arcanorum
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Posted - 2008.10.18 12:41:00 -
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Well i agree with your point on having choices but from the other hand this is an open market. I sell GTC and my price is determined by demand. I mean for all i care you might be the same guy that sells those overpriced rigs for 30mil each in game. I lose ISK in game you lose ISK here. We are all buyers forum or in game so don't complain. |
RogoRed
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Posted - 2008.10.18 12:47:00 -
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/agree
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Warrio
Southern Cross Incorporated Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.18 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Achilles 10 Well i agree with your point on having choices but from the other hand this is an open market. I sell GTC and my price is determined by demand. I mean for all i care you might be the same guy that sells those overpriced rigs for 30mil each in game. I lose ISK in game you lose ISK here. We are all buyers forum or in game so don't complain.
Possibly the most off-topic post I've ever seen. That said, you are not wrong. sXe |
K'aos
Caldari MegaTraveller
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Posted - 2008.10.18 13:37:00 -
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Achillies 10
What are you talking about? There are a number of ways to get rigs.
1. Purchase them, obviously this is the only way you know. 2. Run missions and salvage the wrecks to build them. 3. Buy the components of the market and build them. 4. Contract someone to build them for you at a discount.
The point is you have choices.
In regards to GTC's (to keep it on topic) we do not have a choice. Therefore we are at the mercy of a one price point market.
Oh and who are you to tell him not to complain? Last I checked there was no rule about bringing up a legitimate issue.
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kidd1
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Posted - 2008.10.18 13:42:00 -
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I strongly support your way of thinking, I believe you will succeed.
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kidd1
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Posted - 2008.10.18 13:56:00 -
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These are cold-blooded!!!
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Aivo Laitanen
Laitanen Holding
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Posted - 2008.10.18 13:58:00 -
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Hello,
I'm not sure that CCP would make something to change this system as their marketing squad told them that they will earn more money selling 60 days GTC.
Now, if you think (like me) that 250M is too much for a month of play for an account and do not want to afford your 15Ç / month fee. There is only one solution, stop to pay your GTC and stop your account. Thus, the price of GTC will fall :)
I had 8 accounts paid by GTC, now I sell my characters and will keep only one or 2 accounts.
I'm not happy because my characters give me fun. CCP won't be happy because if we are a majority, they'll lost money GTc sellers won't be happy because less buyers = hardest to sell = less money.
I miss this time when 90 days gtc were sold at 270M :)
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Buhhdust Princess
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.10.18 14:21:00 -
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Yes, Bring back 30d and 90d!
This is what made eve such a diverse game is the prices, you could choose what u wanted easier and it made life easier for many people who already play the game.
Okay, 60d is an easy way for u guys to get money, but i bet u actually got more when u used 30/90 because the amount of players that left when u introduced just 60's!
BRING THEM BACK!
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Greywalker
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Posted - 2008.10.31 09:42:00 -
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CCP listen to your customers bring back 30 and 90 day cards.
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Institutional Afker
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Posted - 2008.10.31 10:02:00 -
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although i'm sure ccp will not listen to us... i must agree with the 30-90 card option !
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Josho
Caldari Fatal Solutions RjctD
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Posted - 2008.10.31 10:03:00 -
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Always a choice to use Visa to pay with then there ISK are not touched. I am fine with just 60 days, and new players have the trial to see if they want to spend cash on game or not so it isn't a surprise, you still have a choice buy the 60 days GTC or pay with Visa.
It is an open market the new players can buy a GTC adn sell then they have ISK for theres shuttle they need.
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Clapped Out
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Posted - 2008.10.31 10:06:00 -
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only reason i could ever see when they stopped 30 and 90 days, was the stealth price increase, and an attempt to limit "ghost training" now they have stopped ghost training i cant see any reason for them not to start selling 30 and 90 days again.
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Raptrojar
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.10.31 10:20:00 -
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/signed. Give us the 30 and 90 day cards back.
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tjinsu
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.10.31 10:23:00 -
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Why not have all three?
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Institutional Afker
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Posted - 2008.10.31 10:25:00 -
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ofcourse or all 3... but to realy get any damage undone the prices for the 90day cards should be like before ( or maybe a lil bit more ?)
but if prices for a 90day gtc are going to be 3/2 of the 60day now then basicly we're screwed again ;)
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SODI FX2
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Posted - 2008.10.31 10:27:00 -
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CCP make profits with ur customers ! Bring back 30&90 cards
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Chris Tao
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Posted - 2008.10.31 10:35:00 -
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I agree with that times where better when 30 and 90 where here. But why the hell would CCP change it back
They are earning more money now.
The number of people with multiple accounts that stop paying for them are probably not that many. They raised the price quite nicely removed ghost training and now they get more money guaranteed.
And if somebody try's to tell me that they care about their costumers... ya sure they do but FFS money always comes first.
Also do not forget the the world economy is in a big crisis.
So I'm gonna point out that CCP is not you MOM and they DON'T CARE
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MILK Monk
2nd Blood Raven Assault Squad
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Posted - 2008.10.31 10:36:00 -
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yeah, I want also 90 days time codes... yesterday I just found out that my account expired 2 days ago. Reasons?: - I do not check everyday, how is my account status - 2 months run fast like a hell and I did not even realized that it passed
Why I cannot receive EVE mail that my account is going to expire in like 5 days before it does? Yeah sure, I can check it myself, but I had really busy weeks at work and simply I did not checked that... not stupid, not lazy... just did not checked...
Is it that big deal to notify about it and give us more choices for time codes?
Give me please 3-month time code and it will be simply better.
*end of one customer opinion* __________________________________ I do it myyyy wayyyy... Milky Way. |
Institutional Afker
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Posted - 2008.10.31 10:38:00 -
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so true... should have some display on login...
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Tuberider
Caldari Pothouse Cartel IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.10.31 10:51:00 -
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If you suckers keep buying at inflated prices then tough You only got yourselves to blame either that or pay too play like the rest of us Oh wait u farm to play for free
Who wants to buy a 60 day for 800 million isky ?
Your mother is a hampster and your father smells of elderberries
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RedSplat
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.10.31 11:11:00 -
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CCP make more money this way and IF for some strange reason anyone at CCP wanted to bring back 30/90 GTC the suggestion would get shot down as giving the wrong image.
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XXJackXX
Caldari Rage of Inferno
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Posted - 2008.10.31 11:15:00 -
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/agreed
i can understand people prefer gtc when they cheap and this makes ccp in crisis and they want to add some price to gtc.i can totaly understand this.but when you removed 30-90days gtc this changed everythink coz they were balancing each other easly.add some prices to 30-90days gtc and give them back to us.i can pay 600-700m for a 90days but when i pay same price to 60days it force me think should i sell me other accounts?.
we want 30-90days gtc back.
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Bizness Gurl
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Posted - 2008.10.31 11:20:00 -
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I think a basic business principle is being overlooked. Supply and demand means the price is what the market will bear. When demand is high and supply is low the price will go up.
Bringing back the 30 may help players with a lower price but don't expect that price to be much different than half of the 60's going price at the time of the purchase. Sellers are not going to offer 30s at prices on a huge discount to what they could get if they were selling the 60s.
If the 60 is going for 600 - count on the 30 at 300 and the 90 at 900.
I do some reselling when I see the market is priced where it is appealing to me to layout RL cash. If the bazaar has few WTBs and lots of WTS's - I'll come back later.
You can bet that if I cannot get half of the 60 price for any 30s I'm selling, that I will hold back the 30s till the price goes up and sell some 60s in the meantime.
Fly safe
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Another Forum'Alt
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Posted - 2008.10.31 11:33:00 -
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I have an idea: don't buy GTCs at all. Pay with a credit/debit card, it costs less per month.
Nerf Zulupark. NOW. |
sliver 0xD
exiles. The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2008.10.31 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Another Forum'Alt I have an idea: don't buy GTCs at all. Pay with a credit/debit card, it costs less per month.
exactly what iam doing now for my accounts.
but my nefue wanted to try eve and 14 days just wanst enough so i wanted to give him isk so he could buy a 30 day gtc.
but iam left with paying for his account witch to me start to look like account shareing becouse who is the owner of the account ? they one who pays or the one with the password?
gtc with more days are generaly beter. i know i will be playing for atleast a year longer. all this messing around with 60 day gtc is anoying.
ccp should look into selling 1 year gtc becouse its verry usefull to know your income is set for a year and that u can invest into the company. it is verry stable system and i think icesave would love it.
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Gonada
Priory Of The Lemon
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Posted - 2008.10.31 11:49:00 -
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good lord get a frikin credit card or debit card allready.
Please, jump into traffic
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Bizness Gurl
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Posted - 2008.10.31 11:51:00 -
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One other thing - CCP does not set the price of GTCs in the bazaar. CCP sets the RL price for what I pay the reseller, but the price I set on the bazaar is determined by what that market will bear.
I fully expect that if CCP brings back the 30 and 90, the authorized reseller prices in RL cash will be 1/3, 2/3, and 3/3 for the 30, 60, and 90 respectively.
I'm going to use some prices here as an example. If 30s are selling for 150 on the bazaar and the 60s are selling for 600 - then I'm going to sell some 60s and use the ISKs to buy some 30s to pay for my accounts. Why would I pay RL cash for the 30s when I can do better selling the 60s?
OK - just one other thing. It is cheaper, at least for CCP, to sell only one size GTC. If they increase the number of types, they will experience an increase the overall cost of having them produced.
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