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royal killer Amarr Shadows Of The Federation	Posted - 2008.10.20 00:42:00 - [1] Ok, so I'mma get straight to the point, Navythron or a Kronos for level 4's ? Only thing I can think of a Kronos over a Navythron is the salvaging while missioning at the same time....help plz ? All responses (positives) greatly appriciated -------------------- ding ding! Wrangler: Hello and w ding ding! Wrangler: ...damn nanowhiners.
Dyaven Interstellar Mining and Research	Posted - 2008.10.20 00:48:00 - [2] I've never used either, but I imagine Kronos would be faster because of the salvaging while missioning.
arbalesttom Glauxian Brothers	Posted - 2008.10.20 00:53:00 - [3] Kronos, hands down. *Sig*
royal killer Amarr Shadows Of The Federation	Posted - 2008.10.20 00:53:00 - [4] really ? -------------------- ding ding! Wrangler: Hello and w ding ding! Wrangler: ...damn nanowhiners.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.10.20 00:56:00 - [5] less ammo use, pwnage web, easier to fit, better cap, and 8 effective guns on the kronos navy meg more lowslots, better raw hitpoints, bigger drone bandwidth, easier to get into (cost and skill wise). I would go with the kronos, look at the paladin fits, and just replace the guns with 425mm railguns, and drone bay with 3 sentries, 5 mediums. I fit a navythron up like that and it just does less damage and has less tank, and needs mostly faction fitting due to cpu
royal killer Amarr Shadows Of The Federation	Posted - 2008.10.20 01:02:00 - [6] Thanks for reminding me of the paladin, that wakes up a question. Tbh, I've been thinking of the Kronos because gallente is my second race, my primary is Amarr, but I'm currently doing (working on getting) lvl 4 agent for the gallente faction, so I figured that the Kronos would be better than the Paladin for most common missions that a gallente agent gives me, since it deals kinetic+thermic instead of em+thermic, or am I wrong here? could a paladin still be as effective or just useless s*t ? -------------------- ding ding!* Wrangler: Hello and w ding ding! Wrangler: ...damn nanowhiners.
Ezekiel Sulastin Gallente Art of War Exalted.	Posted - 2008.10.20 01:08:00 - [7] Either a Kronos or a sentry-drone-plus-railgun Dominix, tbfh. The Dominix can out-damage either version of the Megathron while tanking quite well and having more of its damage able to hit more things due to the enhanced tracking of sentry drones at closer ranges, especially with 2x Omnidirectional Tracking Links. ----
royal killer Amarr Shadows Of The Federation	Posted - 2008.10.20 01:10:00 - [8] Edited by: royal killer on 20/10/2008 01:10:19 Hitting spider drones at 5k with 425mm's not good tracking enough ? I'd love to see my sentry drones do that... edit: Of course putting the web bonus into use and fitting a web on it. -------------------- ding ding! Wrangler: Hello and w ding ding! Wrangler: ...damn nanowhiners.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.10.20 01:22:00 - [9] Originally by: royal killer Thanks for reminding me of the paladin, that wakes up a question. Tbh, I've been thinking of the Kronos because gallente is my second race, my primary is Amarr, but I'm currently doing (working on getting) lvl 4 agent for the gallente faction, so I figured that the Kronos would be better than the Paladin for most common missions that a gallente agent gives me, since it deals kinetic+thermic instead of em+thermic, or am I wrong here? could a paladin still be as effective or just useless s**t ? kronos should do better against guristas/serpentis, paladin against just about everything else, however for angels I have no idea what to use. paladin doesn't seem to do too bad against them. but I haven't really looked past the shoot explosive at them.
Hotice	Posted - 2008.10.20 02:06:00 - [10] Edited by: Hotice on 20/10/2008 02:06:17 Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: royal killer Thanks for reminding me of the paladin, that wakes up a question. Tbh, I've been thinking of the Kronos because gallente is my second race, my primary is Amarr, but I'm currently doing (working on getting) lvl 4 agent for the gallente faction, so I figured that the Kronos would be better than the Paladin for most common missions that a gallente agent gives me, since it deals kinetic+thermic instead of em+thermic, or am I wrong here? could a paladin still be as effective or just useless s**t ? kronos should do better against guristas/serpentis, paladin against just about everything else, however for angels I have no idea what to use. paladin doesn't seem to do too bad against them. but I haven't really looked past the shoot explosive at them. For angels, use 4 t2 neutron blasters on kronos and 5 t2 heavy drones. You can easily pop angel ships since they come real close.
Shereza	Posted - 2008.10.20 02:55:00 - [11] Originally by: Hotice Edited by: Hotice on 20/10/2008 02:06:17 Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: royal killer Thanks for reminding me of the paladin, that wakes up a question. Tbh, I've been thinking of the Kronos because gallente is my second race, my primary is Amarr, but I'm currently doing (working on getting) lvl 4 agent for the gallente faction, so I figured that the Kronos would be better than the Paladin for most common missions that a gallente agent gives me, since it deals kinetic+thermic instead of em+thermic, or am I wrong here? could a paladin still be as effective or just useless s**t ? kronos should do better against guristas/serpentis, paladin against just about everything else, however for angels I have no idea what to use. paladin doesn't seem to do too bad against them. but I haven't really looked past the shoot explosive at them. For angels, use 4 t2 neutron blasters on kronos and 5 t2 heavy drones. You can easily pop angel ships since they come real close. Personally, I wouldn't pack 5 heavy drones onto a kronos. The fact that you can only have 3 of them out at once screws with the thought. Max drone DPS with 75mbit bandwidth comes from 2 heavies, 2 mediums, and 1 light. The only thing I'd consider packing in on top of that in the other 50m3 of drone bay would be 5 more medium drones in case there's anything the heavies are having problems hitting that needs more dps than the 2 mediums and light can put out. ____________________ Minmatar in Fantasy or Duct Tape Goes Medieval.
royal killer Amarr Shadows Of The Federation	Posted - 2008.10.20 11:05:00 - [12] So hands down the Navythron sucks a$$ for lvl 4's? Haven't even heard 1 good thing about it -------------------- ding ding! Wrangler: Hello and w ding ding! Wrangler: ...damn nanowhiners.
The Djego Minmatar merovinger inc	Posted - 2008.10.20 11:21:00 - [13] Edited by: The Djego on 20/10/2008 11:24:47 Damage on both ships are mostly equal(Navythron has a bit more bite in my Opinion). Kronos has the advantage in the Fitting, the Tank, nice Web and the Tractor Beams. If you don¦t loot, know how to manage Missions with a more Buffer style tank and know how to slove CPU Issues with some Mods there is not a big diffrence between both in the end. Both in action, quite good ships in the right hands: Navy Mega Kronos ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank! Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
Alannis Gallente Revelation Space	Posted - 2008.10.20 12:20:00 - [14] Kronos without a doubt. I flew the Navy mega for a fair while and a couple of weeks ago switched to the Kronos. The Kronos is easy mode.
royal killer Amarr Shadows Of The Federation	Posted - 2008.10.20 14:45:00 - [15] Could I tho use a PAladin effectively enough to do lvl 4 missions for a gallente agent ? I kind of like the paladin more -------------------- ding ding! Wrangler: Hello and w ding ding! Wrangler: ...damn nanowhiners.
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2008.10.20 16:20:00 - [16] Originally by: royal killer Could I tho use a PAladin effectively enough to do lvl 4 missions for a gallente agent ? I kind of like the paladin more I use a run of the mill pulse apoc, a paladin would be quite sufficient. __________________________________ Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
Arazel Chainfire Dissolution Of Eternity Ethikos Trade Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.20 17:50:00 - [17] I recently bought a nightmare, and have been switching back and forth between that and the kronos. To answer the first question about kronos or navy mega, I would do kronos. The easier fitting, more effective turrets, and the web bonus all give it major advantages imo. If you get a faction webber, that web bonus just becomes even nicer . As for the lasers vs the rails, well, I have almost maxed skills for gunnery for the kronos (damage wise, I'm only missing large rail spec lvl 5). I have caldari bs lvl 3, and large energy turret lvl 4 for the nightmare, and with a tach setup, on missions with more small ships than large the nightmare is almost equal speed. Against more large ships, it shifts in favor of the kronos, but I imagine that will change once I get t2 tachs and caldari bs lvl 5. This is including against angels (got buzz kill twice in a row last night ), as well as agianst serps, though against guristas the kronos still appears to be better. -Arazel Originally by: Tsanse Kinske Mutual Incomprehension is one of the Four Horsemen of most internet arguments, I guess, along with Unfettered Hostility, Overwhelming Vagueness, and Lack of Evidence.
royal killer Amarr Shadows Of The Federation	Posted - 2008.10.21 10:36:00 - [18] Originally by: Arazel Chainfire I recently bought a nightmare, and have been switching back and forth between that and the kronos. To answer the first question about kronos or navy mega, I would do kronos. The easier fitting, more effective turrets, and the web bonus all give it major advantages imo. If you get a faction webber, that web bonus just becomes even nicer . As for the lasers vs the rails, well, I have almost maxed skills for gunnery for the kronos (damage wise, I'm only missing large rail spec lvl 5). I have caldari bs lvl 3, and large energy turret lvl 4 for the nightmare, and with a tach setup, on missions with more small ships than large the nightmare is almost equal speed. Against more large ships, it shifts in favor of the kronos, but I imagine that will change once I get t2 tachs and caldari bs lvl 5. This is including against angels (got buzz kill twice in a row last night ), as well as agianst serps, though against guristas the kronos still appears to be better. -Arazel The Nightmare does more dmg than the Paladin IIRC, but I have very good amarrian skills, so a paladin with 2-3 faction heat sinks, it might do the job wel -------------------- ding ding! Wrangler: Hello and w ding ding! Wrangler: ...damn nanowhiners.
Qui Shon	Posted - 2008.10.21 12:24:00 - [19] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton kronos should do better against guristas/serpentis, paladin against just about everything else, however for angels I have no idea what to use. That's what the Golly is for, of course. -NM/Pally for Blood, Sansha, Drones, EoM, Mercs -Golly for Angels, Serps, Mercs, Sansha, Blood (The TD can drive a turret user crazy sometimes) -Khrony/NavThron for Guri, Serp, EoM, Mercs(Damsel w/ Blasters) -Domi/Ishtar for afking -Domi for Guri firesupport (ie. non-tanking gunboat), or 2nd ship as tank+droneage against all races for low workload multiaccounting. -Khrony/Pally for salvaging Hmm, might have forgot some races from some boats, but that's a proper missioneers arsenal. Don't settle for anything less
Amuko Amarr Disturbance Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.21 12:34:00 - [20] Whilst I'm not a hardcore mission runner at all I do have a Kronos setup for missions . And really, it works quite well. Using Highs: 4 425s II, 1 tractor beam, 2 salvagers. Mids: 100mn ab II, 3 cap recharger IIs, replace with a web if you want to, but as I don't use any faction stuff I prefer the extra recharge rate. Lows: 1 LAR II, DCU II, 2 hardeners and 1/2 EANM II, 1/2 Mag stab II. As drones I just use hammerhead IIs, mostly, haven't tried out sentry drones yet. Oh yeah I run missions for Caldari, some gallente missions give you the opportunity to fit blasters, which is even more fun . I am a little biased though as I got marauders V, it really helps with tanking and tracking.
royal killer Amarr Shadows Of The Federation	Posted - 2008.10.21 12:45:00 - [21] Hmm, interesting points been posted so far....I will go on the test server and test the Paladin against guristas and serpentis rats (I have a caldari agent so), will get a better look of how the Paladin does against them then -------------------- ding ding! Wrangler: Hello and w ding ding! Wrangler: ...damn nanowhiners.
N Ano From beyond	Posted - 2008.10.21 18:40:00 - [22] my ship fo' sure Originally by: destiny2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- yay for warp core stabalizers. --------------------------------------------------------
Kauschovar Task Force The Servant Brothers of EVE	Posted - 2008.10.22 00:43:00 - [23] Edited by: Kauschovar on 22/10/2008 00:45:05 I found the Paladin works best against Blood Raiders and Serpentis and thus should work fine if you're running missions for Gallente. Against Sanshas it works best among the Gunboats; the range on my Tachyons with Microwaves dropped from 90km to 10km when they activated their tracking disruptors ... but once that is gone it's pretty fast. It does not perform well vs Guristas ... it's doable but you will notice that it takes more time. Hope this helps.

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