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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2008.10.23 17:28:00 -
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Thumbs Up:
- New mining ship!
- Introduces effectively a sub-capital class; those ships which require some capital components, but can fly in hihg-sec and do other things, etc. I secretly hope CCP opens this up to other sub-capital ship roles
- Bonuses a go go
- Good cargo capacity
Thumbs Down:
- This has a worrying amount of bonuses that it doesn't need.
Huge cargo makes it a replacement to freighters; people have been using industrials on mining ops for aeons, this doesn't need fixing this much.
Ship carrying capacity makes it a replacement for empire carriers; ok, so carriers cant fly in high-sec anyway - but perhaps we need a dedicated ship transport.
- I don't see why this is a sub-capital, and not in the same 'tier' as other command ships. Something the size of a battlecruiser, without the cargo 'gimmicks' would have been fine for empire use.
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FireFoxx80
Caldari
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Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.10.23 17:31:00 -
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 Originally by: loki gallach
Be nice to have bonus for astrometrics I.E. scan probe launchers. and slightly larger ship maintenance bay.
But all in all 
What you say kinda reminds me....
Having single race-generic, specialised, ships are fine. Just look at what we've achieved with minind barges.
The same needs to be applied accross the board. What about a dedicated survey/salvage ship from SOE?
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FireFoxx80
Caldari
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Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.10.23 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Karina Bellac
Originally by: Caiman Graystock
If you want a mini freighter, buy a jump freighter. This is more versatile.
And there's me thinking CCP stated the Orca was meant to bridge the gap between industrials and freighters. Some sort of "mini freighter".
Yeah, but a mini freighter (~100km3) should be dedicated. Not part of another role.
CCP have opened up an interesting avenue with this sub-capital concept. They just need to make better use of it. At the moment the Orca is a jack of all trades.
*By sub-capital I mean something that's constructed using capital components, is allowed in high-sec, jump incapable**, but doesn't require Advanced Spaceship Command to fly.
**Having a dedicated jump portal ship - NOT CACK OPS - is still on my wishlist.
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FireFoxx80
Caldari
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Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.10.24 07:39:00 -
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Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Originally by: Xindi Kraid
Edited by: Xindi Kraid on 23/10/2008 20:27:27
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Also, for an ORE ship, the skills are right where they should be, the rorqual requires barges V as well
The rorqual requiring Mining Barge V is also a mistake. if you have mining skills you should be mining, haulers should require a different skillset regardless of what faction they belong to.
The only significant change I can endorse is renaming the skill to "ORE Vessels" or something similar, as ORE has expanded significantly over the years and has become somewhat more varied than just mining barges
Or make it generic "Industrial V".
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