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Astorothe Aperture Science Industries	Posted - 2008.10.24 08:46:00 - [1] Anyone know the name of the software the Eve Online forums is run on? Or the company who built it? RPGN Gaming Network - Eve News, Gaming News, Forums & Community - Home of Aperture Science Corp [ApSci]
Solomon XI Hoist The Colors. Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.10.24 08:49:00 - [2] I think the code is home-written, so to speak. They'd be better off switching the forums over to Invision Power Board. It's a better system. *** ~Solo Hoist The Colors. (CEO) Pirate Coalition (Yar?)
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.10.24 08:55:00 - [3] Originally by: Solomon XI I think the code is home-written, so to speak. They'd be better off switching the forums over to anything else. It's a better system. Fix'd Current forum software is from Parents' Basement Inc. - DesuSigs
Solomon XI Hoist The Colors. Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.10.24 08:59:00 - [4] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Solomon XI I think the code is home-written, so to speak. They'd be better off switching the forums over to anything else. It's a better system. Fix'd Current forum software is from Parents' Basement Inc. You're probably right ... but let's support IP.Board, k? *** ~Solo Hoist The Colors. (CEO) Pirate Coalition (Yar?)
Jovoich Infestation. R.U.R.	Posted - 2008.10.24 08:59:00 - [5] I'm happy with the home grown CCP forums. It works fine for me.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.10.24 09:44:00 - [6] Originally by: Solomon XI You're probably right ... but let's support IP.Board, k? phpBB is free, and thus, superior Originally by: Jovoich I'm happy with the home grown CCP forums. It works fine for me. I actually agree with this. While some enhancements wouldn't be nice, I wouldn't like them to switch to a generic forum. Official forums for things like games should be home-grown.

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2008.10.24 09:56:00 - [7] Someone mentioned the name was 'LOL' but I think it was a joke?

Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.10.24 10:04:00 - [8] Originally by: Chribba Someone mentioned the name was 'LOL' but I think it was a joke? There are no LOL jokes, you know this
Tiirae The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.24 10:18:00 - [9] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Solomon XI You're probably right ... but let's support IP.Board, k? phpBB is free, and thus, superior Originally by: Jovoich I'm happy with the home grown CCP forums. It works fine for me. I actually agree with this. While some enhancements wouldn't be nice, I wouldn't like them to switch to a generic forum. Official forums for things like games should be home-grown. Disagree completely. They could have started with phpbb and paid someone to customise it visually and to incorporate stuff like the portrait server. End result would have been: - a fraction of the cost - far less buggy - much easier to use i.e. consistent with 99% of forums people already use - probably easier to admin; the popular boards have very good admin functionality and I doubt this board is even close It doesn't make much sense to say that a game company's forum should be their own work. They make games, not forum software. You don't see plastic surgeons doing their own appendectomies.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.10.24 10:30:00 - [10] The supreme irony : /ingameboard.asp?... does NOT render in the IGB
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.10.24 10:33:00 - [11] Originally by: Tiirae They make games, not forum software. Quoting this on a forum made by a games company.
Serrano Balthar Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.10.24 10:46:00 - [12] Originally by: Akita T The supreme irony : /ingameboard.asp?... does NOT render in the IGB 4 years ago make me smile :D
Volarius D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.10.24 10:47:00 - [13] I heard they had a deal with the creators of Hello Kitty to use their forum code, as it seemed to fit EVE online perfectly.
Unity Love Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.24 10:48:00 - [14] Chribba we love your sites and all that, but an actual forum search feature would be fairly useful.
Maglorre	Posted - 2008.10.24 10:59:00 - [15] Originally by: Tiirae Disagree completely. They could have started with phpbb and paid someone to customise it visually and to incorporate stuff like the portrait server. End result would have been: - a fraction of the cost - far less buggy - much easier to use i.e. consistent with 99% of forums people already use - probably easier to admin; the popular boards have very good admin functionality and I doubt this board is even close - riddled with well known and not so well known exploits Fixed. While these forums are not perfect (actually, they are pretty crap), phpBB an it's ilk are awful and bloated. Personally, I detest forums. I'd much rather use an email list My main gripe is the ****ed quoting mechanics that people use. The "I'll quote a wall of text and add my one line response at the bottom" paradigm sucks. It's bloats the storage, it bloats the bandwidth and takes up screen space forcing me to spend time scrolling Fortunately people are starting to wake up and realise this and have begun to implement more sensible threading models (e.g. google's gmail and groups) where you don't load every bloody ****ed post and quote every time you hit the page.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.10.24 11:16:00 - [16] Quoting style is a problem with people, not software. If the EVE-O Fora used a threaded model, every random comment (of which there are plenty in every thread) would spawn a subthread, which would inevitably be filled with further random comments, resulting in entire branches of crap. With a flat view, a thread can be dragged back on topic or just locked as a whole if it is incurable. Also, if I want threaded views, I go read a newsgroup.
Tiirae The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.24 11:27:00 - [17] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Tiirae They make games, not forum software. Quoting this on a forum made by a games company. Indeed, forum software that can't even maintain session for many users, one which makes me log in fresh every single time I reply to a thread. Pretty much proves my point really.
Rivqua Caldari Omega Wing R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.10.24 11:29:00 - [18] Originally by: Unity Love Chribba we love your sites and all that, but an actual forum search feature would be fairly useful. And Chribba provides: http://www.eve-search.com /Riv
Tiirae The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.24 11:30:00 - [19] Originally by: Maglorre Originally by: Tiirae Disagree completely. They could have started with phpbb and paid someone to customise it visually and to incorporate stuff like the portrait server. End result would have been: - a fraction of the cost - far less buggy - much easier to use i.e. consistent with 99% of forums people already use - probably easier to admin; the popular boards have very good admin functionality and I doubt this board is even close - riddled with well known and not so well known exploits Fixed. While these forums are not perfect (actually, they are pretty crap), phpBB an it's ilk are awful and bloated. Personally, I detest forums. I'd much rather use an email list My main gripe is the ****ed quoting mechanics that people use. The "I'll quote a wall of text and add my one line response at the bottom" paradigm sucks. It's bloats the storage, it bloats the bandwidth and takes up screen space forcing me to spend time scrolling Fortunately people are starting to wake up and realise this and have begun to implement more sensible threading models (e.g. google's gmail and groups) where you don't load every bloody ****ed post and quote every time you hit the page. You're right about the exploits, but I don't really think it's much of an issue. Patch regularly and it's fine. We are not coordinating the G8 summit here, security doesn't need to be that perfect. Also, email lists are far far worse for quoting pyramids; it's not a pyramid but you get massive chains of indented messages and horrific trees of '>' characters. Besides which, they may be your personal preference but the rest of the world seems pretty comfy with the forum concept.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.10.24 11:36:00 - [20] Afaik CCP didnt homegrow the forums, they modified an existing package, i cant remember the name though. (several years ago there was a link on here somewhere linking back to the people who created it). The name was something with an S... -----
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.10.24 11:57:00 - [21] Originally by: Tiirae Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Tiirae They make games, not forum software. Quoting this on a forum made by a games company. Indeed, forum software that can't even maintain session for many users, one which makes me log in fresh every single time I reply to a thread. Pretty much proves my point really. Your point was pretty worthless anyway. It would have been better if they had paid someone to mod phpBB for them? Sure. But because they paid someone else to do it, not because it's standard software. They could just as easily have paid that someone to do this forum, and it too would have been better. The lesson? You get what you pay for. Shocking. - DesuSigs
Unity Love Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.24 11:59:00 - [22] Originally by: Rivqua Originally by: Unity Love Chribba we love your sites and all that, but an actual forum search feature would be fairly useful. And Chribba provides: http://www.eve-search.com /Riv ^ medal, that was kinda the point of my post. Having it is all fine and dandy as it does work perfectly, but having to outsource every time you want to search gets a bit annoying. And there are a few features the search should have, which I would only expect from people who are being paid for their work (i.e CCP).
Dmian Gallente Gallenterrorisme	Posted - 2008.10.24 12:32:00 - [23] Originally by: Astorothe Anyone know the name of the software the Eve Online forums is run on? Or the company who built it? Snitz Forum 2000 Last update: September 13, 2006
Astorothe Aperture Science Industries	Posted - 2008.10.24 14:31:00 - [24] Originally by: Dmian Originally by: Astorothe Anyone know the name of the software the Eve Online forums is run on? Or the company who built it? Snitz Forum 2000 Last update: September 13, 2006 Thanks o7

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2008.10.24 14:51:00 - [25] They're made in-house, sort of. I have plans though... long term plans... secret plans...

Dmian Gallente Gallenterrorisme	Posted - 2008.10.24 14:57:00 - [26] Originally by: CCP Wrangler They're made in-house, sort of. I have plans though... long term plans... secret plans... You integrated your system's authentication with the forum, right? TBH, the forums serve its purpose. Even though I like other software, what you're using is fine, as long as people can post and reply to.
Maria Kalista	Posted - 2008.10.24 14:57:00 - [27] Originally by: CCP Wrangler They're made in-house, sort of. I have plans though... long term plans... secret plans... Oh, now that is just mean. The suffering of not knowing... How long do you expect me to be here anyway?
Dmian Gallente Gallenterrorisme	Posted - 2008.10.24 15:24:00 - [28] Edited by: Dmian on 24/10/2008 15:24:42 Originally by: Maria Kalista Originally by: CCP Wrangler They're made in-house, sort of. I have plans though... long term plans... secret plans... Oh, now that is just mean. The suffering of not knowing... How long do you expect me to be here anyway? Well, I hope Evelopedia arrives sooner than that what Wrangler is thinking about. The wiki will relieve the forums a little, I think. Now we have forums wars, in the future we might have wiki wars And also, if something akin "ghost training" happens in the future, the level of vandalization on Evelopedia could be huge, so I hope it will have strong moderation tools ("lock everything" button )
Lazuran Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.10.24 15:25:00 - [29] Originally by: Dmian Originally by: CCP Wrangler They're made in-house, sort of. I have plans though... long term plans... secret plans... You integrated your system's authentication with the forum, right? TBH, the forums serve its purpose. Even though I like other software, what you're using is fine, as long as people can post and reply to. The search function sucks and is essential.
Dmian Gallente Gallenterrorisme	Posted - 2008.10.24 15:27:00 - [30] Originally by: Lazuran The search function sucks and is essential. Oh! that! you are right... I'm so used to eve-search.com that I forgot about that.

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