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Croesus
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Posted - 2004.06.29 21:06:00 -
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Since very few of the ppl ingame that i currently talk to have any intrest in talking about ship loadouts, ill just dump this here for u ppl to rip to pieces.
My current raven pvp setup is:
High: 6 x Cruise missile launchers, 2 x Energy neutralizers
Med: 1 x XL C5-L, 1 x thermal, 1 x em, 1 x kinetic, 1 x amp, 1 x Heavy cap booster
Low: 3 Ballsitic control, 2 x Power diagnostic.
Does this setup suck, should i change the energy neutralizers to large Noz (would have to add a co processer to do that), are 2 energy neutralizers an overkill? And yes i know i really should have stabs.
God im tired of this game.
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number 258
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Posted - 2004.06.29 21:29:00 -
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hmm i dunnp about this but i think you should use energy wamps instead of the neutralisers though, because they give you some cap, i think you should put more guns on it, if you have ok skills you should do better dmg than the cruise missile launchers because of theyr very high ROF
that was my input, or else you could talk to me ingame(need to open that channel again )
long live the Taranis!!!
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Croesus
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Posted - 2004.06.30 00:24:00 -
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thx for the input m8
Another setup that i havent really thought through, propably a crap setup.
high: 6 x cruise, 2 x guns or noz(if its possible to fit) or some
med: 1 x cap booster 800, 4 x damps, 1 x something
low: 2 large armor repair, 1 thermal, 1 kinetic and 1 explosive hardener.
Could go allout armor repair by dropin the damps for those mid slot cap relays, but i like damps. Ofcource i have no stabs and i cant stop my oppoment fleeing but meh.
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NewDisease
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Posted - 2004.06.30 00:26:00 -
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Here's one i like:
High : 6x crusie launchers, 1x energy wampier and one large smartbomb (2x boom and all droens are fuucked )
mid: 6x tech II cap rechargers
Low: 2x large named armour repairers and all 3 armour harderners.
No single ship can kill this setup, but with crusie launchers, you get 2 sec more ROF then the siege's, so a bit less dmg output
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JoCool
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Posted - 2004.06.30 00:43:00 -
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Edited by: JoCool on 30/06/2004 00:49:23
Quite a cut in damage output when fighting closerange and no room for any eccms or other stuff - and also very killable when two or three battleships pound it.
I would not like it unless it is my enemy's ship, but
Draw your own conclusion.
Shield tanking seems to be old school now 
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.06.30 00:43:00 -
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 Originally by: NewDisease
Here's one i like:
High : 6x crusie launchers, 1x energy wampier and one large smartbomb (2x boom and all droens are fuucked )
mid: 6x tech II cap rechargers
Low: 2x large named armour repairers and all 3 armour harderners.
No single ship can kill this setup, but with crusie launchers, you get 2 sec more ROF then the siege's, so a bit less dmg output
Setup is nice, but you are definatly wrong on this "no single ship"-thing.
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JoCool
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Posted - 2004.06.30 00:50:00 -
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Edited by: JoCool on 30/06/2004 00:55:17
Yup, he is. Just calculated it, I could take him down alone. And I wouldn't even need scrambling support hahah 
Addendum: Wouldn't bet on it if I could outtank that without using charges though, haven't tried it yet as it seems noone but a few crazy Fins (does anyone know Siddy?) fly such things. But then again, I usually use charges 
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Del Narveux
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Posted - 2004.06.30 01:28:00 -
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Just a thought, fron a non-BS flier: Isnt Caldaris primary defense supposed to be shield tanking? Might be easier to tank shields and use those lowslots to deal with cap recharge...
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Croesus
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Posted - 2004.06.30 01:30:00 -
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Edited by: Croesus on 30/06/2004 02:28:44
Edited by: Croesus on 30/06/2004 02:20:19
Why is the damage output less when fightin at close range, and another thing most people dont carry any eccm¦s (pls correct me if im wrong here since this is just my perception). You never know whether your gonna be damped, not many awnsers to that except maybe an mwd, or multy¦d(most ew scorp players i know are massivly paranoid and carry eccm¦s and go way over the top when scrambling), and the raven has an awnser of sort to ew, not very good one though in the form of fof, and lastly whats not very killable when 2-3 battleships pound on it :).
and about shield tankin being old school.
Does it really matter how you tank, in the instances you defete your enemy its usually a gank where you and your m8s trash some solo bs, and when u lose its usually the other way around. Doesnt matter how well you tank you¦ll go down.
In smaller schirmishes it might matter to have the most cap efficient tankin, but is that more important than just to have as much dmg as possible and try to take one of them out as fast as possible or ew, i dont think so, could be wrong though hehe.
In fleet dmg is king, it doesent matter how well you tank your going to go down fast when u get lit up, cap efficiency takes second place to dmg, ew and really really fast Armour/shield boostin (i have never armor tanked so i dont know anything about how fast it is) as youll hope that your ship will hold together for long enough to warp out.
The only time it really matters what sort of tankin your using and what is more cap efficiant is one on one, which really never happens.
So is tanking imoprtant, yes but not as much as ppl would like to belive.
I really dont know why i wrote this crap.
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Jorev
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Posted - 2004.06.30 04:09:00 -
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Croesus, I dunno why you wrote it, but you wrote the truth 
It is like this thing among bicycle racers who count every ounce in bike weight. So 16 lb. bike is suddely a big deal over 17 lb. bike. Well, in the end it makes no difference at all. Stronger rider wins.
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Mir0s
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Posted - 2004.06.30 08:28:00 -
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Originally by: Croesus
Edited by: Croesus on 30/06/2004 02:28:44
Edited by: Croesus on 30/06/2004 02:20:19
Why is the damage output less when fightin at close range, and another thing most people dont carry any eccm¦s (pls correct me if im wrong here since this is just my perception). You never know whether your gonna be damped, not many awnsers to that except maybe an mwd, or multy¦d(most ew scorp players i know are massivly paranoid and carry eccm¦s and go way over the top when scrambling), and the raven has an awnser of sort to ew, not very good one though in the form of fof, and lastly whats not very killable when 2-3 battleships pound on it :).
and about shield tankin being old school.
Does it really matter how you tank, in the instances you defete your enemy its usually a gank where you and your m8s trash some solo bs, and when u lose its usually the other way around. Doesnt matter how well you tank you¦ll go down.
In smaller schirmishes it might matter to have the most cap efficient tankin, but is that more important than just to have as much dmg as possible and try to take one of them out as fast as possible or ew, i dont think so, could be wrong though hehe.
In fleet dmg is king, it doesent matter how well you tank your going to go down fast when u get lit up, cap efficiency takes second place to dmg, ew and really really fast Armour/shield boostin (i have never armor tanked so i dont know anything about how fast it is) as youll hope that your ship will hold together for long enough to warp out.
The only time it really matters what sort of tankin your using and what is more cap efficiant is one on one, which really never happens.
So is tanking imoprtant, yes but not as much as ppl would like to belive.
I really dont know why i wrote this crap.
Answer to being damped is carrying sensor booster.
And i disagree with you on the tanking matter. It's always very important to have good tanking setup. If you have a good tank setup you could hold out long enough to get away alive or deal more dmg! I don't fly Ravens but friend of mine does. His fitt enables him to tank the raven for 90 seconds. In that time he can replace 14000 shield hp plus his 7000 shield hp that he starts with. He outputs dmg with 6 launchers and 2 guns and he can do alot of dmg in that time... 
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.06.30 10:27:00 -
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6 Cruise launchers with Torps
1 Large Nosferatu
1 Cloaking Device
5 100mn Afterburners
1 Warp Scrambler
3 Warp Core Stabs
1 Armour repairer
1 Ballistic Control
You go so fast orbitting the enemy BS that none of his bugged guns can hit you and your torps dont have to worry about tracking. If it does go pear shaped you can warp away or zoom away and cloak and think of a new set up 
This crazy set up was brought to you by the letters U, D, I and E.
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.06.30 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: Estios
6 Cruise launchers with Torps
1 Large Nosferatu
1 Cloaking Device
5 100mn Afterburners
1 Warp Scrambler
3 Warp Core Stabs
1 Armour repairer
1 Ballistic Control
You go so fast orbitting the enemy BS that none of his bugged guns can hit you and your torps dont have to worry about tracking. If it does go pear shaped you can warp away or zoom away and cloak and think of a new set up
This crazy set up was brought to you by the letters U, D, I and E.
myy cruise launchers arent firing cruise missles?!
mhh i prefer some standard setup here
6x siege launchers, 2x250mm rails (mhh bigger guns dont fit)
1x XL Shield Booster 1x Shield Boost Amplie 3x Wards 1x cap recharger
1x damage mod 5x power diags
give you at least nice shield and with torps awesome damage output
Wanna fly with me?
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.06.30 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Estios
6 Cruise launchers with Torps
1 Large Nosferatu
1 Cloaking Device
5 100mn Afterburners
1 Warp Scrambler
3 Warp Core Stabs
1 Armour repairer
1 Ballistic Control
You go so fast orbitting the enemy BS that none of his bugged guns can hit you and your torps dont have to worry about tracking. If it does go pear shaped you can warp away or zoom away and cloak and think of a new set up
This crazy set up was brought to you by the letters U, D, I and E.
myy cruise launchers arent firing cruise missles?!
mhh i prefer some standard setup here
6x siege launchers, 2x250mm rails (mhh bigger guns dont fit)
1x XL Shield Booster 1x Shield Boost Amplie 3x Wards 1x cap recharger
1x damage mod 5x power diags
give you at least nice shield and with torps awesome damage output
WTB 6 Low Slot Raven.
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Baytt
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Posted - 2004.06.30 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Estios
6 Cruise launchers with Torps
1 Large Nosferatu
1 Cloaking Device
5 100mn Afterburners
1 Warp Scrambler
3 Warp Core Stabs
1 Armour repairer
1 Ballistic Control
hey
ok first of u CANT use torps in a cruise launcher and a cloaking devise is a tad expensive to buy atm. Also 1 armour repairer wont cut it if u get ganked
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Roxy
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Posted - 2004.06.30 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: NewDisease
Here's one i like:
High : 6x crusie launchers, 1x energy wampier and one large smartbomb (2x boom and all droens are fuucked )
mid: 6x tech II cap rechargers
Low: 2x large named armour repairers and all 3 armour harderners.
No single ship can kill this setup, but with crusie launchers, you get 2 sec more ROF then the siege's, so a bit less dmg output
Bet you my megathron could kill it without even trying very hard. :)
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.06.30 12:51:00 -
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I was kidding dude, it was some crazy set-up I just thought of. So replace Torps with Cruise and cloaking hasnt cost me a bean
The bit about U DIE might have gave away the fact the set up is destined for disaster.
I will no doubt think of some more crazy amusing set ups because Ive never been a beleiver of this 'What set up should I fit' post. If you are going out solo you are going to need a completely different set up than if you are planning a 5vs5 in close or at range or likewise a 50 vs 50.
Test the boundaries I say, wait til you see my 7 smartbomb, dual MWD, 8 warp core stabbed Armageddon coming for your support vessels
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Croesus
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Posted - 2004.06.30 13:01:00 -
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Id even go so far to say that fittings dont matter, the only thing that matters is to outnumber your oppoment.
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JoCool
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Posted - 2004.06.30 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: Croesus
Id even go so far to say that fittings dont matter, the only thing that matters is to outnumber your oppoment.
That's far from reality.
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Croesus
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Posted - 2004.06.30 13:21:00 -
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Edited by: Croesus on 30/06/2004 13:24:30
Im exageating but this is true nonetheless. Lets take a real life analogy since most ppl here seem to hate em, the EVE module sys is largely influenced by mtg, (dmg are colors, your even getting pro weenies in the new frigs):
So im running around some gamecon with my suiced black deck and some 3 hugh bullis come and slam me against the wall and say play against our toalrian academy deck¦s all at the same time. Do i have a chance in hell, NO (id even be hard pressed to win one deck let alone 3. No matter how good i am i cant win against these numbers, even if those bullies had friggin awefull decks i wouldnt even have a chance in hell.
Its like what Stalin said( think it was him): quantity has quality of it own.
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Roxy
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Posted - 2004.06.30 13:24:00 -
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"7 smartbomb, dual MWD, 8 warp core stabbed Armageddon"
Will probably run out of cap before getting anything to armor damage :D
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Synapse
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Posted - 2004.06.30 14:20:00 -
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6 rocket launchers
2 civ gat guns
6 civ shield boosters
5 warp core stabalisers
Unbeatable!
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Croesus
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Posted - 2004.06.30 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Synapse
6 rocket launchers
2 civ gat guns
6 civ shield boosters
5 warp core stabalisers
Unbeatable!
Yea well Im sry i posted here, goodbye :/
ps. your loadout sucks
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Elaine Marley
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Posted - 2004.07.01 08:07:00 -
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Raven SetUps...
This one is also a nice one in my eyes..
Hi:
2x 425mm Carbide Rails,
2 Siege Launchers
4 Cruise Missle Launchers
Med:
2x Cap Recharger II
1 EM Hardner
1 Th Hardner
1 CL5 XL
1 Amp
Low:
2 Ballistic Controls
3 Diags
Its working cool, even in RL and not on the Testserver...
Greetings
Podding Regards
Elaine Marley
Put the money on the table, here is the Inflation Control
Veni, Vedi, Vici |
Elaine Marley
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Posted - 2004.07.01 08:07:00 -
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Raven SetUps...
This one is also a nice one in my eyes..
Hi:
2x 425mm Carbide Rails,
2 Siege Launchers
4 Cruise Missle Launchers
Med:
2x Cap Recharger II
1 EM Hardner
1 Th Hardner
1 CL5 XL
1 Amp
Low:
2 Ballistic Controls
3 Diags
Its working cool, even in RL and not on the Testserver...
Greetings
Podding Regards
Elaine Marley
Put the money on the table, here is the Inflation Control
Veni, Vedi, Vici |
Estios
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Posted - 2004.07.01 10:19:00 -
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You have a Raven battleclass spaceship in RL, Sweeeeet. Dont fly over france in it, those air traffic control monkeys are a nightmare.
As for arma idea, if you read the bit about support ships and see how many frigs our enemies have swarmed round gates you'd know where the ridiculous tongue in cheek idea came from.
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.07.01 10:19:00 -
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You have a Raven battleclass spaceship in RL, Sweeeeet. Dont fly over france in it, those air traffic control monkeys are a nightmare.
As for arma idea, if you read the bit about support ships and see how many frigs our enemies have swarmed round gates you'd know where the ridiculous tongue in cheek idea came from.
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Maniac Insane
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Posted - 2004.07.02 08:19:00 -
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So what's the conclusion, what would a good setup be ?) Really can't figure out how to fit mine
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Maniac Insane
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Posted - 2004.07.02 08:19:00 -
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So what's the conclusion, what would a good setup be ?) Really can't figure out how to fit mine
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Elaine Marley
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Posted - 2004.07.02 10:05:00 -
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Originally by: Estios
You have a Raven battleclass spaceship in RL, Sweeeeet. Dont fly over france in it, those air traffic control monkeys are a nightmare.
Yeah, meant was Tranquility... :P
Podding Regards
Elaine Marley
Put the money on the table, here is the Inflation Control
Veni, Vedi, Vici |
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