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Habigor Minmatar The Black Ops	Posted - 2008.10.24 17:12:00 - [1] k, As I'm not a man of many words, i'll recreate the story in a few lines.... 1. Alliance created 11/2007 2. Hospitalised in rl 10/2008 3. Come back ingame after 3 weeks 4. Alliance is deleted because of an outstanding bill of 8mill 5. Corp wallet has more then enouph 6. Contact CCP by petition 7. Nice reply is 'yea dude, you gotta pay another 1bill to get it sorted' THIS IS JUST PLAIN AND SIMPLE BULL**!!! CCP YOU FAIL!! Wot about a reminder mail? Wot about automaticaly deducting it from master wallet? Wot about mailing the CEO's of the Alliance corps as a reminder? Ever thought of those options ccp b4 you cheat out corps for billions???? Habigor CEO The *ing Black Ops EX execuror of Black Core Alliance CEO the Black Ops RADIO STATIC*
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.24 17:18:00 - [2] It's been like this for ages. It's happened all the time and to bigger boys than you. Live with it. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
Adeptus mecanicus The Flaming Sideburn's	Posted - 2008.10.24 17:20:00 - [3] ceo's in a alliance do get a mail saying there is a bill fore alliance fee's to be payed at a certain date, so basicly i think that ccp is not to blame at this incident.....they have more important stuff to do like karaoke nights and fighting lag Grunt's
Habigor Minmatar The Black Ops	Posted - 2008.10.24 17:25:00 - [4] Edited by: Habigor on 24/10/2008 17:25:53 I understand that there is a mail when a bill comes in, this we all know. But tell me, why is there a way to settle a late bill for an office and even get your goods back from impounding after paying a small fee and there is nothing, aside from 1 single mail when the bill is created when it's about an alliance? I mean, I respect the fact that CCP has other things todo then make sure their bills get paid, but in case of a corporate office, you have an elaborate mechanism to get it sorted. For an alliance they just delete it. It's just wrong to ask for another bill when it was already created. Sending a reminder mail to the ceo's of alliance corps is not too much to ask is it. Sadest this is, now we probably gotta wait another 6 montsh again b4 the allaince logo is added if we need to create BCA again. CEO the Black Ops RADIO STATIC
Anonymous Troll	Posted - 2008.10.24 17:29:00 - [5] Edited by: Anonymous Troll on 24/10/2008 17:29:21 .
Habigor Minmatar The Black Ops	Posted - 2008.10.24 17:31:00 - [6] Edited by: Habigor on 24/10/2008 17:32:46 right, I suppose I had to ask the docs to operate me with a laptop nearby so i could'ff payed the bill whilst i was being operated. If you have no clue wot this is about, keep your comments to yourself. The above comment was for anonymous troll, seems he deleted his remark. Eather way, I was not able to get online, kinda difficult with tubes sticking in your body CEO the Black Ops RADIO STATIC
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.10.24 17:32:00 - [7] Originally by: Habigor right, I suppose I had to ask the docs to operate me with a laptop nearby so i could'ff payed the bill whilst i was being operated. If you have no clue wot this is about, keep your comments to yourself. wot Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Rakessh Arachnea Phoenix Battalion Bionic Dawn	Posted - 2008.10.24 17:36:00 - [8] Did your operation go allright? :) I guess you could make that bill inside of half an hour with the help of your alliance? CEO Arachnea Phoenix Battalion
enjoi Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.10.24 17:36:00 - [9] Hi Hab! Real men structure tank.
Jesse Jamess Caldari Red Tides	Posted - 2008.10.24 17:43:00 - [10] dont worry dude Obama will fix everything!
Habigor Minmatar The Black Ops	Posted - 2008.10.24 17:52:00 - [11] o/ Enj, good to see you're still alive buddy. Guess if this were to happen to BoB, CCP could fix it in seconds huh? Oops, did I realy say that? CEO the Black Ops RADIO STATIC
Rexthor Hammerfists Rage of Inferno	Posted - 2008.10.24 18:01:00 - [12] Im pretty sure bob would pay the billion from their lunchmoney ;) and hello Hab.
Habigor Minmatar The Black Ops	Posted - 2008.10.24 18:03:00 - [13] o/ Rex and yes, you're probably right
Dark Motoko Caldari Stormlord Battleforce Vanguard.	Posted - 2008.10.24 18:17:00 - [14] Edited by: Dark Motoko on 24/10/2008 18:17:53 Originally by: Habigor k, As I'm not a man of many words, i'll recreate the story in a few lines.... 1. Alliance created 11/2007 2. Hospitalised in rl 10/2008 3. Come back ingame after 3 weeks 4. Alliance is deleted because of an outstanding bill of 8mill 5. Corp wallet has more then enouph 6. Contact CCP by petition 7. Nice reply is 'yea dude, you gotta pay another 1bill to get it sorted' THIS IS JUST PLAIN AND SIMPLE BULL**!!! CCP YOU FAIL!! Wot about a reminder mail? Wot about automaticaly deducting it from master wallet? Wot about mailing the CEO's of the Alliance corps as a reminder? Ever thought of those options ccp b4 you cheat out corps for billions???? Habigor CEO The **ing Black Ops EX execuror of Black Core Alliance I'm actually with you on this Habigor. Occasionally one of my directors would pay off the alliance bill and I personally worried over whether the bill had come up, been paid properly etc. I've known a couple groups who were disbanded because of lack of payment who swear the demand never appeared. Just a little irritating doubt in the back of your mind I guess. It'd be one less thing to worry about if this was on an automated system to debit it from the executor corp's wallet. The option for that would be good.
Zeb Zilla	Posted - 2008.10.24 18:21:00 - [15] STORM THE GREAT FORTRESS OF INEPITUDE HI haB "THEY" take no Notice of anyone "THEY" are always right. I bet bet "THEY" wish "ISK" was real in Iceland It's total BS I agree Hab Most on these Forum could do with an EVE brain implant any way
Evileene Evil Conservative Industries	Posted - 2008.10.24 18:41:00 - [16] Maybe there should be an "auto pay bills" setting for corp wallets... --- Support the economy, cut down a tree and set it on fire.
Parasite S Death Monkey's With Knives	Posted - 2008.10.24 20:13:00 - [17] as if we hadnt enough isk sink allready ...
The Medusa GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.10.24 20:29:00 - [18] Habigor... I will mine if you haul so you can get a bisk to recreate the alliance Anyway, where the Black Core Alliance living in Syndicate? I have heard that Syndicate kills alliances. ----------------sig space for rent -------- EvE Online are a game. EvE Online are a game. EvE Online are a game. EvE Online are a game. EvE Online are a game. EvE Online are a game. EvE Online ar
Monkey Saturday Unknown Soldiers Soldiers Of New Eve	Posted - 2008.10.24 20:32:00 - [19] They won't reinstate your alliance because the one and only time they did it they bugged it so badly that no one could wardec that alliance for months. Thanks for the Maulus BPO nerf! :D
Doddy Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.10.25 00:08:00 - [20] Edited by: Doddy on 25/10/2008 00:08:51 You know, while my first thought "lol fail, another inept alliance leader loses a bil", "pay attention noob" etc, i am beginning to think it would just be easier for ccp to perhaps, set up a reminder? or autodeduct and make you choose not to continue the alliance? Otherwise no you weren't cheated, its just one of these things. Being hospitalised in RL can cost you billions in other ways too, deal with it. See anyone crying on here cos they lost their pos operation while RL was in the way despite the fact there was enough fuel in the corp hangar to last for months? Oh and other corp ceos do get the mail, so unless you are a one man alliance, someone else could have paid.
Alaxen Caldari Eve Defence Force Resurgency	Posted - 2008.10.25 04:11:00 - [21] Originally by: Habigor 7. Nice reply is 'yea dude, you gotta pay another 1bill to get it sorted' That sounds exactly like the kind of reply CCP would give. Exactly. --
Habigor Minmatar The Black Ops	Posted - 2008.10.25 09:18:00 - [22] Edited by: Habigor on 25/10/2008 09:18:00 I understand wot you're saying, but a pos can be handled by more then 1. I mean, the roles decides wether you get a mail or not. As far as allaince bills go, the exec is the only 1.
Jack Soul Freelancer Union Unaffiliated	Posted - 2008.10.25 21:40:00 - [23] Hi Hab, I'm pretty sure any director of the exec corp can pay the alliance bill (The same as any corp bill). Sorry to hear about you RL heath problems, but your directors should have kept Black Core going, its not really CCP's fault. All the best. Jack ********* Blue are the life-giving waters, taken for granted, they quietly understand... Once happy turquoise armies lay opposite ready, but wonder why the fight is on...
Jebidus Skari Comply Or Die G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.10.25 22:11:00 - [24] I do understand where your coming from, i think we should have a automatic renew/pay option on any rentals of offices, or alliance bills. Bad luck keep hassling CCP they may take pity.
cptwooks	Posted - 2008.10.25 23:55:00 - [25] Well when a pos is missing materials ccp is good at spamming everyone with a directors role but not Alliance bill
joe forden	Posted - 2008.10.26 00:55:00 - [26] is this gonna effect wallstreet at all
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.26 01:24:00 - [27] Pay the 1 bill, stfu and be glad you don't have to wait 4 weeks to get it sorted whilst CCP delete your old name from the database so you can recreate the alliance again wth the same name. Next time pay bill in time :)
Shigsy Heretic Militia	Posted - 2008.10.26 01:30:00 - [28] Originally by: KIAEddZ Pay the 1 bill, stfu and be glad you don't have to wait 4 weeks to get it sorted whilst CCP delete your old name from the database so you can recreate the alliance again wth the same name. Next time pay bill in time :) m8, just because you are very successful mercs and have alot of isk, doesnt mean everyone has 1b spare. U got to think of little guy who dont make career and lots of isk unlike you. If u kno what i mean.
El'Tar Caldari Genos Occidere Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.10.26 01:37:00 - [29] Originally by: Shigsy Originally by: KIAEddZ Pay the 1 bill, stfu and be glad you don't have to wait 4 weeks to get it sorted whilst CCP delete your old name from the database so you can recreate the alliance again wth the same name. Next time pay bill in time :) m8, just because you are very successful mercs and have alot of isk, doesnt mean everyone has 1b spare. U got to think of little guy who dont make career and lots of isk unlike you. If u kno what i mean. ye n im laughin tht KIA is advertisin their merc service lol cos they r noobs
NAFnist Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.10.26 04:19:00 - [30] you wont forget next time,ey ;p
Habigor Minmatar The Black Ops	Posted - 2008.10.26 12:57:00 - [31] Final reply from CCP: Hi, You received an evemail from concord informing you of the maintenance bill at 2008.09.22 12:44, and did not pay it. I'm afraid that as such the alliance was indeed disbanded. As no bug or server related problem was involved in the loss, I'm afraid you will indeed need to pay the alliance creation fee again. My apologies for the inconvenience. Best regards, GM Zhainius EVE Online Customer Support On a final note: Only CEO's and directors can pay bills. So if there are no directors in corp, the CEO is the only 1 that can pay the bill. Same goes for alliance corps; if only 1 corp in alliance, there is no backup. Thank you CCP for nothing, as per usual. CEO the Black Ops RADIO STATIC
mamolian Madhatters Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.26 14:11:00 - [32] Glad to hear your out of hospital Hab. As for the post.. well cmon mate.. its pretty common knowledge at this stage.. the alliance will disband if you dont pay the fuggin bill Perhaps all those layabout fgts who were online during your stay in hospital will take more of an interest in their own alliance in future? -----------
Kayleigh Lothian Minmatar KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.26 22:02:00 - [33] Edited by: Kayleigh Lothian on 26/10/2008 22:03:12 Edited by: Kayleigh Lothian on 26/10/2008 22:02:17 I have to agree with the op. This is one of the things CCP refuses to let go because "they are right". There is no other reason for them NOT to "fix" this then stubborn "pride" and not wanting to admit that this is a kinda stupid thing. We have the technology to travle across the universe automagically, we can deside to stay in "safe" space, we can even say "Hey, take me _there_ but do not go through P.I.T.A", and it is all automagical. If I bid on an auction, and someone outbids me, I get the isk back without doing anything. No risk that that they go away because I forgot to claim them back. But I can not say that my corp/alliance should pay the bills from concord automatically. I'd love to hear the RP-reason for this. Is it a "lost knowledge"? For some strange reason, my subscription fee to CCP is charged on my creditcard automagically, would it not be "better" to let people have to interact to pay for their playtime IRL too??? This is almost as stupid as not having training ques. Good to see you got out of your surgery btw, was it anything really cool? Edit: God damn I spell bad ----------------------
Dave PSI Haendlergilde	Posted - 2008.10.27 00:04:00 - [34] Hi Habigor, same thing happened to me too. Does it suck and should it be imroved - shure, but no question it was your fault. The game mechanics work this way since ages. If you want it changed, better post under "Game Development Forum" and make some proposes for a change. T R U S T shop: http://www.evetrust.com // Haendlergilde [HAE]
Jack Gates Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.10.27 07:06:00 - [35] Originally by: Zeb Zilla STORM THE GREAT FORTRESS OF INEPITUDE HI haB "THEY" take no Notice of anyone "THEY" are always right. I bet bet "THEY" wish "ISK" was real in Iceland It's total BS I agree Hab Most on these Forum could do with an EVE brain implant any way what medications are you on
Ralara Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.10.27 07:31:00 - [36] Originally by: Shigsy Originally by: KIAEddZ Pay the 1 bill, stfu and be glad you don't have to wait 4 weeks to get it sorted whilst CCP delete your old name from the database so you can recreate the alliance again wth the same name. Next time pay bill in time :) m8, just because you are very successful mercs and have alot of isk, doesnt mean everyone has 1b spare. U got to think of little guy who dont make career and lots of isk unlike you. If u kno what i mean. An alliance that doesn't have / can't make 1 billion isk isn't much of an alliance. And I don't mean that in a nasty way; CAn you not instruct everyone in the alliance to go do 5 level 4 missions with tax at 100% or have a "0.0 ratting for the alliance day" with tax at 100%? --
Chib Storm Guard Elite	Posted - 2008.10.28 04:22:00 - [37] Originally by: Ralara Originally by: Shigsy Originally by: KIAEddZ Pay the 1 bill, stfu and be glad you don't have to wait 4 weeks to get it sorted whilst CCP delete your old name from the database so you can recreate the alliance again wth the same name. Next time pay bill in time :) m8, just because you are very successful mercs and have alot of isk, doesnt mean everyone has 1b spare. U got to think of little guy who dont make career and lots of isk unlike you. If u kno what i mean. this isnt true really, i kinda agree with the OP in the fact that a bil is still alot of isk when it comes down to it and its certainly alot if its having to be spent on something thts alredy been spent on An alliance that doesn't have / can't make 1 billion isk isn't much of an alliance. And I don't mean that in a nasty way; CAn you not instruct everyone in the alliance to go do 5 level 4 missions with tax at 100% or have a "0.0 ratting for the alliance day" with tax at 100%? ---------------------------------------------
Buck Starchaser	Posted - 2008.10.29 12:31:00 - [38] Quote: THIS IS JUST PLAIN AND SIMPLE BULL****!!! CCP YOU FAIL!! Wot about a reminder mail? Wot about automaticaly deducting it from master wallet? Wot about mailing the CEO's of the Alliance corps as a reminder? Ever thought of those options ccp b4 you cheat out corps for billions???? You have wasted your time ranting about something that was totally your fault, however, you haven't wasted my time as you make a good clown to laugh at now and then. Your antics remind me of the kid that everyone saw do something wrong but adimantly swears he is innocent. Evidently there isn't a problem for the hundreds of other alliances that understand that things go away when you don't pay the bill for them. Don't come down on CCP for your failure to be responsible. Also, using spellings like "wot" may help you fit in on childrens websites but here there are people who know you are too old to talk like that. PS: Where have you been hanging out lately? You will tell me where to find the rebel base.

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