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Moah
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Posted - 2004.07.01 08:06:00 -
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 Originally by: Xelios
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You can find them with time and patience.
Wrong. The only safe spots you can find with time and patience are the stupidly made ones, where people just make a safe between two easily identifiable places. If someone wants to make a safe safespot you will never be able to find it, and if you've got a fleet that you need to hide at one you'll make it a good one.
Wrong, you can find ANY Safespot.
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Moah
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Posted - 2004.07.01 08:06:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Xelios
Quote:
You can find them with time and patience.
Wrong. The only safe spots you can find with time and patience are the stupidly made ones, where people just make a safe between two easily identifiable places. If someone wants to make a safe safespot you will never be able to find it, and if you've got a fleet that you need to hide at one you'll make it a good one.
Wrong, you can find ANY Safespot.
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FraNtik
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Posted - 2004.07.01 08:50:00 -
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Edited by: FraNtik on 01/07/2004 08:56:20
As Moah says, any safespot can be found.
If a pilot can make the safespot, a pilot can find it.
I know 'cause I do it. Zoners, Omega Corp ,ATUK and some others can confirm it 
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FraNtik
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Posted - 2004.07.01 08:50:00 -
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Edited by: FraNtik on 01/07/2004 08:56:20
As Moah says, any safespot can be found.
If a pilot can make the safespot, a pilot can find it.
I know 'cause I do it. Zoners, Omega Corp ,ATUK and some others can confirm it
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FA's Bloodhound
"You can warp, but you can't hide" |
Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.07.01 09:34:00 -
[35]
Originally by: FraNtik
Edited by: FraNtik on 01/07/2004 08:56:20
As Moah says, any safespot can be found.
If a pilot can make the safespot, a pilot can find it.
I know 'cause I do it. Zoners, Omega Corp ,ATUK and some others can confirm it
How the hell do you find a Safespot over 100AU from any celestial object?
The scanner has a range of 20AU max so anything more than that beyond a planet,moon,asteroid field ect. can't be found. By all means enlighten me to how you can find a Safespot 100+ AU out?
I also agree SS should be easier to find, not within a couple of minutes but a skilled pilot able to use the scanner should not have to spend hour or be unable to find them.
If you want safe spots dock, otherwise there should be a risk to any ship sitting in space.
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It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.07.01 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: FraNtik
Edited by: FraNtik on 01/07/2004 08:56:20
As Moah says, any safespot can be found.
If a pilot can make the safespot, a pilot can find it.
I know 'cause I do it. Zoners, Omega Corp ,ATUK and some others can confirm it
How the hell do you find a Safespot over 100AU from any celestial object?
The scanner has a range of 20AU max so anything more than that beyond a planet,moon,asteroid field ect. can't be found. By all means enlighten me to how you can find a Safespot 100+ AU out?
I also agree SS should be easier to find, not within a couple of minutes but a skilled pilot able to use the scanner should not have to spend hour or be unable to find them.
If you want safe spots dock, otherwise there should be a risk to any ship sitting in space.
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It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
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FraNtik
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Posted - 2004.07.01 09:52:00 -
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lol mate, I ain't gonna tell you how to do it 
I'd located safespots at >150AU from anything. Those need some more time to find.
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FraNtik
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Posted - 2004.07.01 09:52:00 -
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lol mate, I ain't gonna tell you how to do it
I'd located safespots at >150AU from anything. Those need some more time to find.
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FA's Bloodhound
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.07.01 09:56:00 -
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Originally by: FraNtik
lol mate, I ain't gonna tell you how to do it
I'd located safespots at >150AU from anything. Those need some more time to find.
Ok I have ideas on how to do it but tell me how long it would take for you to find a ss 150au out from anything?
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.07.01 09:56:00 -
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Originally by: FraNtik
lol mate, I ain't gonna tell you how to do it
I'd located safespots at >150AU from anything. Those need some more time to find.
Ok I have ideas on how to do it but tell me how long it would take for you to find a ss 150au out from anything?
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It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
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Moah
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Posted - 2004.07.01 09:59:00 -
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Edited by: Moah on 01/07/2004 10:02:27
1. safespots that are 150au away from everything are allways mad with the uber save. So just warp to uber save, scann little bit, warp from uber save to some objects, scann little bit, and you will find any savespot... (no, i'll not explain how to make the uber save, ask somebody else)
2. im not the "safespot finder" in our corp, but i think he'll find and get to every spot in ~2 - 3 days. (if its a good one) So dont let your ships in space...
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Moah
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Posted - 2004.07.01 09:59:00 -
[42]
Edited by: Moah on 01/07/2004 10:02:27
1. safespots that are 150au away from everything are allways mad with the uber save. So just warp to uber save, scann little bit, warp from uber save to some objects, scann little bit, and you will find any savespot... (no, i'll not explain how to make the uber save, ask somebody else)
2. im not the "safespot finder" in our corp, but i think he'll find and get to every spot in ~2 - 3 days. (if its a good one) So dont let your ships in space...
Fancy. |
Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.07.01 10:16:00 -
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Originally by: Moah
1. safespots that are 150au away from everything are allways mad with the uber save. So just warp to uber save, scann little bit, warp from uber save to some objects, scann little bit, and you will find any savespot... (no, i'll not explain how to make the uber save, ask somebody else)
Now this works ok if you intend on warping all the way to the F11 ss, I like most I would think just warp to max cap and leave it there.
So unless you warp to within 20AU of the ss it will take forever to find. Same goes for the double F11 ss which is sometimes up to 200+.
Originally by: Moah
2. im not the "safespot finder" in our corp, but i think he'll find and get to every spot in ~2 - 3 days. (if its a good one) So dont let your ships in space...
2-3 days to find a safe spot, now in that time the guy could have come and picked his ship up made himself a new safespot and you would have to start all over, how long would you spend looking? The increased finding time player want is within an hour or 2.
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.07.01 10:16:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Moah
1. safespots that are 150au away from everything are allways mad with the uber save. So just warp to uber save, scann little bit, warp from uber save to some objects, scann little bit, and you will find any savespot... (no, i'll not explain how to make the uber save, ask somebody else)
Now this works ok if you intend on warping all the way to the F11 ss, I like most I would think just warp to max cap and leave it there.
So unless you warp to within 20AU of the ss it will take forever to find. Same goes for the double F11 ss which is sometimes up to 200+.
Originally by: Moah
2. im not the "safespot finder" in our corp, but i think he'll find and get to every spot in ~2 - 3 days. (if its a good one) So dont let your ships in space...
2-3 days to find a safe spot, now in that time the guy could have come and picked his ship up made himself a new safespot and you would have to start all over, how long would you spend looking? The increased finding time player want is within an hour or 2.
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It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
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Moah
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Posted - 2004.07.01 10:59:00 -
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Our safespot finder isnt in our corp or in any alliance. when someone is in system, he logs of or leave system until its clear. we arent interested in 1 industrial, but if there are some bs, its worth it to search 2 or 3 days.
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Moah
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Posted - 2004.07.01 10:59:00 -
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Our safespot finder isnt in our corp or in any alliance. when someone is in system, he logs of or leave system until its clear. we arent interested in 1 industrial, but if there are some bs, its worth it to search 2 or 3 days.
Fancy. |
Six KH
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Posted - 2004.07.01 12:16:00 -
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Edited by: Six KH on 01/07/2004 12:19:45
I want a compass, a better system map that shows your bookmarks ,and a directional scanner that doesn't work randomly, to find them faster.
there aren't any "safe" spots, even those made between 2 random bookmarks (but not "outside system" spots that are an exploit for me) 
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Six KH
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Posted - 2004.07.01 12:16:00 -
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Edited by: Six KH on 01/07/2004 12:19:45
I want a compass, a better system map that shows your bookmarks ,and a directional scanner that doesn't work randomly, to find them faster.
there aren't any "safe" spots, even those made between 2 random bookmarks (but not "outside system" spots that are an exploit for me)
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Beringe
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Posted - 2004.07.01 12:52:00 -
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Safe spots *can* be found.
But only afk morons will ever be caught at their safe spot.
Anyone with half a brain will notice when you start to get close to their safespot, and warp to...a new safe spot!
Rinse and repeat.
A waste of time.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2004.07.01 12:52:00 -
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Safe spots *can* be found.
But only afk morons will ever be caught at their safe spot.
Anyone with half a brain will notice when you start to get close to their safespot, and warp to...a new safe spot!
Rinse and repeat.
A waste of time.
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"My main griveance with the Caldari state was that once I had finished my work for them, they wanted me dead."
"No, it's none of your business." |
digitalwanderer
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Posted - 2004.07.01 13:23:00 -
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Well,if i want to be really safe and thereŠs no station nearby,iŠll make a 600+ AU safe spot jump in one warp(apoc with lots of cap definately helps here..)
Beauty if this is that it warps in a totally different direction each time i do it,even when perfoming it in the same system repeatedly...
I have yet to be found in a safe spot,by anyone...
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digitalwanderer
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Posted - 2004.07.01 13:23:00 -
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Well,if i want to be really safe and thereŠs no station nearby,iŠll make a 600+ AU safe spot jump in one warp(apoc with lots of cap definately helps here..)
Beauty if this is that it warps in a totally different direction each time i do it,even when perfoming it in the same system repeatedly...
I have yet to be found in a safe spot,by anyone...
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illuminati
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Posted - 2004.07.01 14:27:00 -
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Ooooh, I'm so elite, I can find a safespot in less time than a week.
It takes me 5 seconds to create a new one.
Now who the hell sits at one safespot longer than 20 minutes if hunted anyway? 
I dont get it, I could hide in any system from any number of "hunters" for any amount of time and yet there are people here who like this balance.
Guess what they are, yeah thats right, the true carebears ladies and gentlemen, please don't shoot me, I prefer "8 vs 1 indy" combat but when "15 vs 8" come along, boohoo, I'm a wolf, please don't find me ... 
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illuminati
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Posted - 2004.07.01 14:27:00 -
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Ooooh, I'm so elite, I can find a safespot in less time than a week.
It takes me 5 seconds to create a new one.
Now who the hell sits at one safespot longer than 20 minutes if hunted anyway?
I dont get it, I could hide in any system from any number of "hunters" for any amount of time and yet there are people here who like this balance.
Guess what they are, yeah thats right, the true carebears ladies and gentlemen, please don't shoot me, I prefer "8 vs 1 indy" combat but when "15 vs 8" come along, boohoo, I'm a wolf, please don't find me ...
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Gerome Doutrande
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Posted - 2004.07.01 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: pHASE 11
Edited by: pHASE 11 on 30/06/2004 14:30:48
Safe spots should exist as a place to regroup & restock.
Safe spots should not exist as a place for out-waiting and out-boring your enemy.
Solution: Make them faster to find. It should take longer time than 5 mins to find them but it should be a lot faster than today.
exactly. make it so.
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Gerome Doutrande
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Posted - 2004.07.01 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: pHASE 11
Edited by: pHASE 11 on 30/06/2004 14:30:48
Safe spots should exist as a place to regroup & restock.
Safe spots should not exist as a place for out-waiting and out-boring your enemy.
Solution: Make them faster to find. It should take longer time than 5 mins to find them but it should be a lot faster than today.
exactly. make it so.
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.07.01 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: FraNtik
What's next? Force ships to undock?
Safespots are ok as they are now.
You can find them with time and patience. There are no *safe*spots, just worth or worthless to invest the time needed.
Yes, forcing ships to undock would be brilliant.
And your bullcrap about that safe spots can be discovered is well just bullcrap.
I want to get the people at the safespots, not the safespots. This is allmost impossible due to the fact that there are safespots 400 au away from any celestial objects and that you will not find someone who is warping all the time between his 4 safespots in a solar system. And you can hit the scanner all the time while being at a safespot and check if someone is coming closer to you or not and react.
Safespots are ok as they are now is a myth and bullcrap. They are easy to make and allmost impossible to find unless you are afk for hours at them.
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.07.01 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: FraNtik
What's next? Force ships to undock?
Safespots are ok as they are now.
You can find them with time and patience. There are no *safe*spots, just worth or worthless to invest the time needed.
Yes, forcing ships to undock would be brilliant.
And your bullcrap about that safe spots can be discovered is well just bullcrap.
I want to get the people at the safespots, not the safespots. This is allmost impossible due to the fact that there are safespots 400 au away from any celestial objects and that you will not find someone who is warping all the time between his 4 safespots in a solar system. And you can hit the scanner all the time while being at a safespot and check if someone is coming closer to you or not and react.
Safespots are ok as they are now is a myth and bullcrap. They are easy to make and allmost impossible to find unless you are afk for hours at them.
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Aleister Crowley
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Posted - 2004.07.01 16:19:00 -
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The current bookmarking system is fine.
To all who let bookmarks defeat their goals:
"Intolerance is a sign of impotence"
'Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law' |
Aleister Crowley
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Posted - 2004.07.01 16:19:00 -
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The current bookmarking system is fine.
To all who let bookmarks defeat their goals:
"Intolerance is a sign of impotence"
'Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law' |
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