Javajunky
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.05 05:00:00 -
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Debiru wrote:Riley Moore wrote:[quote=Debiru]I don't see Nocxium going above 1,100 ISK in the long run and most likely stabilizing under that (800 would be my guess for final price), and Zydrine has already started to stabilize somewhat, though it will probably rise slightly again once the stockpiles people are trying to sell run low. I don't see Zydrine breaking past 2,000 except for brief periods of time. bla blah stuff here blah blah Furthermore, the values on Drone-to-Ore came before wormholes and (IIRC) the Orca. While nullsec alliances always had the Rorqual for mining ops, it's hideously expensive and was kept safely tucked away most of the time, just providing the bonuses. Now the Orcas are out in force and have increased the supply of nullsec ores via alliances drastically. While much of that production does go into cap/supercap production, some of it is still rerouted to highsec. Then factor in the amount of wormhole corps out mining nowadays, whose minerals generally go straight back into highsec, and you've got an increased supply from ores compared to that of Drones, which as was mentioned before, goes into supercap production most of the time anyway. Large amounts of high-end minerals in highsec comes from loot reprocessing and wormhole mining, not drones. Most mission runners don't loot, and those that do usually ignore drone missions and bypass them. So the speculation on the impact of highsec mineral availability has been drastically overpredicted. Though that was intentional by many people in order to spike prices higher which was good for their wallet (and the overall market in my opinion).
Mine much?
WH mining, is mining of opportunity. Remember WH Grav sites are a "chance" to spawn you can mine a system out and not see anythign for weeks. Unlike other sites, you are less inclined to mine an adjacent WH due to the mass restrictions, only a handful of trips to make a orca close up most WHs. Rorquals do exist in WH space, but there biggest value value add is compression, any serious WH mining group is not going to spend time chasing WH openings when they can throw a rorq in and get a grav site out in 2 trips.
I don't see where you get your logic related to Orca's or Rorquals, while most corps and alliances have something boosting if they are running an op, the reality is the biggest boosts to null sec were the T2 mining boosts, the Grav site changes (Crucible) and not the ability to move or compress ore as much mining is done in systems that have refineries.
It's going to be quite a while before equilibrium is reached, the amount of minerals being sat on by speculators is just freakin enormous. All in all I find all the speculaation for high and low numbers quite interesting.
No offense man, not trying to troll... just not seeing the logic.
One thing for sure, it's an exciting time to be a miner and a speculator... |