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Necrologic
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Posted - 2004.07.01 18:45:00 -
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If i was going to fly one ship overall (PvP and rats) what frig/intercep would you all recommend, and with what sort of loadout? This topic may seem abit redundent, but theres stuff i wanna know thats not really in others. so please explain you reasons for liking stuff. _______________________________________________________
Et nunc, reges, intelligite, erudimini, qui judicati terram. |

Necrologic
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Posted - 2004.07.01 18:45:00 -
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If i was going to fly one ship overall (PvP and rats) what frig/intercep would you all recommend, and with what sort of loadout? This topic may seem abit redundent, but theres stuff i wanna know thats not really in others. so please explain you reasons for liking stuff. _______________________________________________________
Et nunc, reges, intelligite, erudimini, qui judicati terram. |

Necrologic
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2004.07.01 18:45:00 -
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If i was going to fly one ship overall (PvP and rats) what frig/intercep would you all recommend, and with what sort of loadout? This topic may seem abit redundent, but theres stuff i wanna know thats not really in others. so please explain you reasons for liking stuff.
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Wuubaa
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Posted - 2004.07.01 19:28:00 -
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In my opinion id go for a taranis with the current state of things if i was to fly a frig/int.
His: 3 x named light ions 1x small smart bomb/named nos (prolly a nos)
Med: 1mn mwd/10 mn ab 90% webber strength 2 scrambler
lows: watever to fit 2x aux power things and 1 cap relay
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Wuubaa
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Posted - 2004.07.01 19:28:00 -
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In my opinion id go for a taranis with the current state of things if i was to fly a frig/int.
His: 3 x named light ions 1x small smart bomb/named nos (prolly a nos)
Med: 1mn mwd/10 mn ab 90% webber strength 2 scrambler
lows: watever to fit 2x aux power things and 1 cap relay
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Wuubaa
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2004.07.01 19:28:00 -
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In my opinion id go for a taranis with the current state of things if i was to fly a frig/int.
His: 3 x named light ions 1x small smart bomb/named nos (prolly a nos)
Med: 1mn mwd/10 mn ab 90% webber strength 2 scrambler
lows: watever to fit 2x aux power things and 1 cap relay
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flummox
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Posted - 2004.07.01 19:59:00 -
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crow and taranis i'd say. they are more adaptable. but all the interceptors are good. depends on what you want to do with it.
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |

flummox
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Posted - 2004.07.01 19:59:00 -
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crow and taranis i'd say. they are more adaptable. but all the interceptors are good. depends on what you want to do with it.
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |

flummox
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Posted - 2004.07.01 19:59:00 -
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crow and taranis i'd say. they are more adaptable. but all the interceptors are good. depends on what you want to do with it.
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Tobias Raddick
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Posted - 2004.07.01 20:11:00 -
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Taranis = Very Expensive. How about a Griffin instead?
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Tobias Raddick
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Posted - 2004.07.01 20:11:00 -
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Taranis = Very Expensive. How about a Griffin instead?
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Tobias Raddick
Caldari Raddick Explorations Myriad Alliance
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Posted - 2004.07.01 20:11:00 -
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Taranis = Very Expensive. How about a Griffin instead?
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KrakizBad
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Posted - 2004.07.01 20:43:00 -
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I am an Ares pilot. At first glance the Ares seems to be a turd of a ship, but beuty is in the eye of the beholder. With the 4 low slots i am able to run a 10mn AB and warp scrambler while using a 150 carbine and 125 carbine with anti ammo. I can then orbit a BS at aprox 7km, aim for 5 but speed of AB pushes me out because of centrifugal force. Using the AB makes me damn hard to hit as there isn't the penalty associated with the mwd. I can run this setup for about eternity, but keep in mind my cap skills are uber (currently working on energy management 5). It does take decent skills to be able to put this setup together as it pretty much uses every bit of resource available, but is super efficient.
The ares is also faster than a taranis. And sense i use my ares to transport mega and zyd from 50 jumps deep in 0.0 to emp., the extra little bit helps. And because of the 4 low slots i can have a larger cargo cap. and carry more of the rare scooby snacks.
I'm not claiming the Ares is the best, but i believe it is best suited for my use. If anyone has any other recomendations on the statements i've posed feel free to comment (but not flame). I'm not opposed to learning lvl 5 of other races frig just to try the inty's as i have 16 perception and 17 willpower, with only lvl 4 learning skills. Enough said.
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KrakizBad
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Posted - 2004.07.01 20:43:00 -
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I am an Ares pilot. At first glance the Ares seems to be a turd of a ship, but beuty is in the eye of the beholder. With the 4 low slots i am able to run a 10mn AB and warp scrambler while using a 150 carbine and 125 carbine with anti ammo. I can then orbit a BS at aprox 7km, aim for 5 but speed of AB pushes me out because of centrifugal force. Using the AB makes me damn hard to hit as there isn't the penalty associated with the mwd. I can run this setup for about eternity, but keep in mind my cap skills are uber (currently working on energy management 5). It does take decent skills to be able to put this setup together as it pretty much uses every bit of resource available, but is super efficient.
The ares is also faster than a taranis. And sense i use my ares to transport mega and zyd from 50 jumps deep in 0.0 to emp., the extra little bit helps. And because of the 4 low slots i can have a larger cargo cap. and carry more of the rare scooby snacks.
I'm not claiming the Ares is the best, but i believe it is best suited for my use. If anyone has any other recomendations on the statements i've posed feel free to comment (but not flame). I'm not opposed to learning lvl 5 of other races frig just to try the inty's as i have 16 perception and 17 willpower, with only lvl 4 learning skills. Enough said.
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KrakizBad
SUBLIME L.L.C. Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2004.07.01 20:43:00 -
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I am an Ares pilot. At first glance the Ares seems to be a turd of a ship, but beuty is in the eye of the beholder. With the 4 low slots i am able to run a 10mn AB and warp scrambler while using a 150 carbine and 125 carbine with anti ammo. I can then orbit a BS at aprox 7km, aim for 5 but speed of AB pushes me out because of centrifugal force. Using the AB makes me damn hard to hit as there isn't the penalty associated with the mwd. I can run this setup for about eternity, but keep in mind my cap skills are uber (currently working on energy management 5). It does take decent skills to be able to put this setup together as it pretty much uses every bit of resource available, but is super efficient.
The ares is also faster than a taranis. And sense i use my ares to transport mega and zyd from 50 jumps deep in 0.0 to emp., the extra little bit helps. And because of the 4 low slots i can have a larger cargo cap. and carry more of the rare scooby snacks.
I'm not claiming the Ares is the best, but i believe it is best suited for my use. If anyone has any other recomendations on the statements i've posed feel free to comment (but not flame). I'm not opposed to learning lvl 5 of other races frig just to try the inty's as i have 16 perception and 17 willpower, with only lvl 4 learning skills. Enough said.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.07.01 21:03:00 -
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Kestrels are currently a bit overpowered. They are still slow, so they aren't quite so good for attacking battleships, but for frigate vs frigate combat they are very difficult to stop.
Assuming you have level 5 caldari frigate, you get a 25% bonus to kinetic missle damage and a 25% bonus to firing speed. Add on a few ballistic controls, and you've got a very cheap frigate that can blow up interceptors (even taranis's) before they know what happened.
I engaged one last night in my armor tanked claw and lost. I was getting hit with tons of small missles, and they were doing 100 points of damage each!
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.07.01 21:03:00 -
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Kestrels are currently a bit overpowered. They are still slow, so they aren't quite so good for attacking battleships, but for frigate vs frigate combat they are very difficult to stop.
Assuming you have level 5 caldari frigate, you get a 25% bonus to kinetic missle damage and a 25% bonus to firing speed. Add on a few ballistic controls, and you've got a very cheap frigate that can blow up interceptors (even taranis's) before they know what happened.
I engaged one last night in my armor tanked claw and lost. I was getting hit with tons of small missles, and they were doing 100 points of damage each!
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Shamis Orzoz
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2004.07.01 21:03:00 -
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Kestrels are currently a bit overpowered. They are still slow, so they aren't quite so good for attacking battleships, but for frigate vs frigate combat they are very difficult to stop.
Assuming you have level 5 caldari frigate, you get a 25% bonus to kinetic missle damage and a 25% bonus to firing speed. Add on a few ballistic controls, and you've got a very cheap frigate that can blow up interceptors (even taranis's) before they know what happened.
I engaged one last night in my armor tanked claw and lost. I was getting hit with tons of small missles, and they were doing 100 points of damage each!
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Easy Target
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Posted - 2004.07.01 21:13:00 -
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A noob frigate...
it is free.... Comes fitted.. can be flown out of the box and your clone is free...
Easy Target -----------------------------------------------
No i'm not good... but i have never claimed to be -------------------- Moments of genius |

Easy Target
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Posted - 2004.07.01 21:13:00 -
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A noob frigate...
it is free.... Comes fitted.. can be flown out of the box and your clone is free...
Easy Target -----------------------------------------------
No i'm not good... but i have never claimed to be -------------------- Moments of genius |

Easy Target
Minmatar Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2004.07.01 21:13:00 -
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A noob frigate...
it is free.... Comes fitted.. can be flown out of the box and your clone is free...
Easy Target -----------------------------------------------
No i'm not good... but i have never claimed to be -------------------- |

OFFT
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Posted - 2004.07.01 22:13:00 -
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Edited by: OFFT on 01/07/2004 22:15:12 I have a preferance ....
Want to guess ...
Top shot with a Bloodclaw light is 124.5.
Does for me ...
OFFT FORM LIFE :SIMPLE IN A COMPLICATED WAY Some players make EVE history : Other players are EVE history
"We cant all be heroes because somebody has to sit on the curb and and clap as they go by"
scooooshcrumpzerump (c) Random RandomnesesesesÖ |

OFFT
OFFT FORM LIFE
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Posted - 2004.07.01 22:13:00 -
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Edited by: OFFT on 01/07/2004 22:15:12 I have a preferance ....
Want to guess ...
Top shot with a Bloodclaw light is 124.5.
Does for me ...
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OFFT
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Posted - 2004.07.01 22:13:00 -
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Edited by: OFFT on 01/07/2004 22:15:12 I have a preferance ....
Want to guess ...
Top shot with a Bloodclaw light is 124.5.
Does for me ...
OFFT FORM LIFE :SIMPLE IN A COMPLICATED WAY Some players make EVE history : Other players are EVE history
"We cant all be heroes because somebody has to sit on the curb and and clap as they go by"
scooooshcrumpzerump (c) Random RandomnesesesesÖ |

Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.07.01 22:15:00 -
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I'd say for 1-on-1 frig action - 1)Taranis 2)Kestrel 3)Crow
Against larger ships - 1)Crow 2)Kestrel 3)Rifter
I doubt a taranis will lose to an kestrel assuming both pilots are of reasonable skill, but its certainly not implausable.
-------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003 |

Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.07.01 22:15:00 -
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I'd say for 1-on-1 frig action - 1)Taranis 2)Kestrel 3)Crow
Against larger ships - 1)Crow 2)Kestrel 3)Rifter
I doubt a taranis will lose to an kestrel assuming both pilots are of reasonable skill, but its certainly not implausable.
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Pandora Panda
Caldari
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Posted - 2004.07.01 22:15:00 -
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I'd say for 1-on-1 frig action - 1)Taranis 2)Kestrel 3)Crow
Against larger ships - 1)Crow 2)Kestrel 3)Rifter
I doubt a taranis will lose to an kestrel assuming both pilots are of reasonable skill, but its certainly not implausable.
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Bella Verde
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Posted - 2004.07.01 22:25:00 -
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I'd reccomend a rifter for anything. Most of my SP are devoted to gunnery rather than missiles so I use 3 200mn autocannons and 1 standard launcher, but that may change when the missile skills and changes go through. I'm confident in my ability to take down any frigate, and even the occasional cruiser. Plus, its cheap.
/me cant wait for an elite rifter.
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Bella Verde
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Posted - 2004.07.01 22:25:00 -
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I'd reccomend a rifter for anything. Most of my SP are devoted to gunnery rather than missiles so I use 3 200mn autocannons and 1 standard launcher, but that may change when the missile skills and changes go through. I'm confident in my ability to take down any frigate, and even the occasional cruiser. Plus, its cheap.
/me cant wait for an elite rifter.
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Bella Verde
Gallente
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Posted - 2004.07.01 22:25:00 -
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I'd reccomend a rifter for anything. Most of my SP are devoted to gunnery rather than missiles so I use 3 200mn autocannons and 1 standard launcher, but that may change when the missile skills and changes go through. I'm confident in my ability to take down any frigate, and even the occasional cruiser. Plus, its cheap.
/me cant wait for an elite rifter.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.07.02 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: Pandora Panda I doubt a taranis will lose to an kestrel assuming both pilots are of reasonable skill, but its certainly not implausable.
I saw 2 friends lose taranis's to kestrels yesterday. Not at the same time, but both in the same manner. Both the taranis pilots were PvP veterans with over 10 million skill points. The taranis is still better all around, but kestrels are uber for frigate vs frigate.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.07.02 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: Pandora Panda I doubt a taranis will lose to an kestrel assuming both pilots are of reasonable skill, but its certainly not implausable.
I saw 2 friends lose taranis's to kestrels yesterday. Not at the same time, but both in the same manner. Both the taranis pilots were PvP veterans with over 10 million skill points. The taranis is still better all around, but kestrels are uber for frigate vs frigate.
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Shamis Orzoz
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2004.07.02 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: Pandora Panda I doubt a taranis will lose to an kestrel assuming both pilots are of reasonable skill, but its certainly not implausable.
I saw 2 friends lose taranis's to kestrels yesterday. Not at the same time, but both in the same manner. Both the taranis pilots were PvP veterans with over 10 million skill points. The taranis is still better all around, but kestrels are uber for frigate vs frigate.
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pyrross
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Posted - 2004.07.02 02:11:00 -
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And the kestrel fitted with 4 launchers with light missiles??
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pyrross
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Posted - 2004.07.02 02:11:00 -
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And the kestrel fitted with 4 launchers with light missiles??
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pyrross
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Posted - 2004.07.02 02:11:00 -
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And the kestrel fitted with 4 launchers with light missiles??
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iLLumino
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Posted - 2004.07.02 02:55:00 -
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Yupp, I had fitted with bloodclaws...
But i was nice and gave back the loot, even brought it to the station in torrinos. I like Kessies almost more than Crows, becuase i get more engagements in the Kessie than when i fly Crow...
It was nice fights though...
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iLLumino
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Posted - 2004.07.02 02:55:00 -
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Yupp, I had fitted with bloodclaws...
But i was nice and gave back the loot, even brought it to the station in torrinos. I like Kessies almost more than Crows, becuase i get more engagements in the Kessie than when i fly Crow...
It was nice fights though...
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iLLumino
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2004.07.02 02:55:00 -
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Yupp, I had fitted with bloodclaws...
But i was nice and gave back the loot, even brought it to the station in torrinos. I like Kessies almost more than Crows, becuase i get more engagements in the Kessie than when i fly Crow...
It was nice fights though...
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hatchette
Caldari Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2004.07.02 06:48:00 -
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My preference is incursus.. with 3 light anode nautron blasters and a named dmg mod. It's a BS killer. The powergrid might be a problem.. i have micro-aux mounted on it.
If i were to fly an interceptor.. i'll go with taranis.. One gun more.. and you can fit 2 dmg mods on;)
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hatchette
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Posted - 2004.07.02 06:48:00 -
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My preference is incursus.. with 3 light anode nautron blasters and a named dmg mod. It's a BS killer. The powergrid might be a problem.. i have micro-aux mounted on it.
If i were to fly an interceptor.. i'll go with taranis.. One gun more.. and you can fit 2 dmg mods on;)
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hatchette
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Posted - 2004.07.02 06:48:00 -
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My preference is incursus.. with 3 light anode nautron blasters and a named dmg mod. It's a BS killer. The powergrid might be a problem.. i have micro-aux mounted on it.
If i were to fly an interceptor.. i'll go with taranis.. One gun more.. and you can fit 2 dmg mods on;)
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Andrew Redburn
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Posted - 2004.07.02 10:08:00 -
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Edited by: Andrew Redburn on 02/07/2004 10:10:51 In my opinion the Crow is the best overall firgate/interceptor. 25% rof bonus, 3 missle slots max, together with the 4-3-3 slot config is quite good. The kestrel might have 4 launchers, but a named 125mm or 150mm rail will make one launcher up, if you web your target. Since no frigate is faster than interceptors, you should be able to kill every frigate as long as you don't get webbed yourself, because outrunning missles is now very easy (lights only 1km, which I already reach with one OD and one AB/AB Tech II, not to mention a MWD; fastest are CMs with just 1,6km/s).
The Amarr Crusader might be very good since the last patch though I haven't the chance to try it so far, as it can use 4 named Small Laser turrets where each can do more than 100dmg easily and every 2.5s. 4 low slots give enough space for a dmg mod and whatever you need to fit the ship. Good for killing frigates, and even better for big ships as long as you have high Engineering/Gunneryskills (Cap!).
If you want it cheap with lots of damage, then the kestrel is a very good choice. Together with the RoF and Dmgbonus, there is no frigate that can do more damage (missle hit always and no cap needed). Skills required to pilot and equip one are very few, as you basicly only need missle launcher and light missles. Since it is slow compared to others you might have problems in frig vs frig though (Congratulations to the Kestrelpilot that took out two interceptors. I did that myself before I switched to a Crow and it is VERY difficult, even more now, since you don't have CMs anymore).
In any case a decent frigate PvP will need some skills, as you need speed, cap for your EW/AB/MWD and high missle or gunnery skills to do enough dmg for bigger targets. Not to mention the requirements for Elitefirgates.
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Andrew Redburn
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Posted - 2004.07.02 10:08:00 -
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Edited by: Andrew Redburn on 02/07/2004 10:10:51 In my opinion the Crow is the best overall firgate/interceptor. 25% rof bonus, 3 missle slots max, together with the 4-3-3 slot config is quite good. The kestrel might have 4 launchers, but a named 125mm or 150mm rail will make one launcher up, if you web your target. Since no frigate is faster than interceptors, you should be able to kill every frigate as long as you don't get webbed yourself, because outrunning missles is now very easy (lights only 1km, which I already reach with one OD and one AB/AB Tech II, not to mention a MWD; fastest are CMs with just 1,6km/s).
The Amarr Crusader might be very good since the last patch though I haven't the chance to try it so far, as it can use 4 named Small Laser turrets where each can do more than 100dmg easily and every 2.5s. 4 low slots give enough space for a dmg mod and whatever you need to fit the ship. Good for killing frigates, and even better for big ships as long as you have high Engineering/Gunneryskills (Cap!).
If you want it cheap with lots of damage, then the kestrel is a very good choice. Together with the RoF and Dmgbonus, there is no frigate that can do more damage (missle hit always and no cap needed). Skills required to pilot and equip one are very few, as you basicly only need missle launcher and light missles. Since it is slow compared to others you might have problems in frig vs frig though (Congratulations to the Kestrelpilot that took out two interceptors. I did that myself before I switched to a Crow and it is VERY difficult, even more now, since you don't have CMs anymore).
In any case a decent frigate PvP will need some skills, as you need speed, cap for your EW/AB/MWD and high missle or gunnery skills to do enough dmg for bigger targets. Not to mention the requirements for Elitefirgates.
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Andrew Redburn
Caldari adeptus gattacus
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Posted - 2004.07.02 10:08:00 -
[45]
Edited by: Andrew Redburn on 02/07/2004 10:10:51 In my opinion the Crow is the best overall firgate/interceptor. 25% rof bonus, 3 missle slots max, together with the 4-3-3 slot config is quite good. The kestrel might have 4 launchers, but a named 125mm or 150mm rail will make one launcher up, if you web your target. Since no frigate is faster than interceptors, you should be able to kill every frigate as long as you don't get webbed yourself, because outrunning missles is now very easy (lights only 1km, which I already reach with one OD and one AB/AB Tech II, not to mention a MWD; fastest are CMs with just 1,6km/s).
The Amarr Crusader might be very good since the last patch though I haven't the chance to try it so far, as it can use 4 named Small Laser turrets where each can do more than 100dmg easily and every 2.5s. 4 low slots give enough space for a dmg mod and whatever you need to fit the ship. Good for killing frigates, and even better for big ships as long as you have high Engineering/Gunneryskills (Cap!).
If you want it cheap with lots of damage, then the kestrel is a very good choice. Together with the RoF and Dmgbonus, there is no frigate that can do more damage (missle hit always and no cap needed). Skills required to pilot and equip one are very few, as you basicly only need missle launcher and light missles. Since it is slow compared to others you might have problems in frig vs frig though (Congratulations to the Kestrelpilot that took out two interceptors. I did that myself before I switched to a Crow and it is VERY difficult, even more now, since you don't have CMs anymore).
In any case a decent frigate PvP will need some skills, as you need speed, cap for your EW/AB/MWD and high missle or gunnery skills to do enough dmg for bigger targets. Not to mention the requirements for Elitefirgates.
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2004.07.02 11:44:00 -
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Kestrels work pretty well. 4 std launchers, 1 web, 1 warp scram, 1 1mn MWD. Low slots to make this setup work. The only problem I've had is taking out duel MWD frig/interceptor.
Test out some configs with a 400mm steel plate, 20 CPU 30 MW(if I recall) rocket launchers, webber if your going after interceptors. I know it takes something like 20 light em's to eat through 600+ armor.
Fear the Ibis of doom. |

Boonaki
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Posted - 2004.07.02 11:44:00 -
[47]
Kestrels work pretty well. 4 std launchers, 1 web, 1 warp scram, 1 1mn MWD. Low slots to make this setup work. The only problem I've had is taking out duel MWD frig/interceptor.
Test out some configs with a 400mm steel plate, 20 CPU 30 MW(if I recall) rocket launchers, webber if your going after interceptors. I know it takes something like 20 light em's to eat through 600+ armor.
Fear the Ibis of doom. |

Boonaki
Caldari Suffoco Noctis Atrocitas
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Posted - 2004.07.02 11:44:00 -
[48]
Kestrels work pretty well. 4 std launchers, 1 web, 1 warp scram, 1 1mn MWD. Low slots to make this setup work. The only problem I've had is taking out duel MWD frig/interceptor.
Test out some configs with a 400mm steel plate, 20 CPU 30 MW(if I recall) rocket launchers, webber if your going after interceptors. I know it takes something like 20 light em's to eat through 600+ armor.
Fear the Ibis of doom! |

Xtro 2
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Posted - 2004.07.02 12:05:00 -
[49]
Originally by: hatchette My preference is incursus.. with 3 light anode nautron blasters and a named dmg mod. It's a BS killer. The powergrid might be a problem.. i have micro-aux mounted on it.
If i were to fly an interceptor.. i'll go with taranis.. One gun more.. and you can fit 2 dmg mods on;)
Incursus is very good allround and cheap, good for damage, or when you wanna go fast you can strap on 3 mwd and break the 55kms barrier for a very fast escape, interceptor wise, im unsure, crow looks ok, then again still boils down to personal preference in the end. __________________________________________
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Xtro 2
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Posted - 2004.07.02 12:05:00 -
[50]
Originally by: hatchette My preference is incursus.. with 3 light anode nautron blasters and a named dmg mod. It's a BS killer. The powergrid might be a problem.. i have micro-aux mounted on it.
If i were to fly an interceptor.. i'll go with taranis.. One gun more.. and you can fit 2 dmg mods on;)
Incursus is very good allround and cheap, good for damage, or when you wanna go fast you can strap on 3 mwd and break the 55kms barrier for a very fast escape, interceptor wise, im unsure, crow looks ok, then again still boils down to personal preference in the end. __________________________________________
Hell is nothing more than an office with fluorecent lights. |

Xtro 2
Caldari Pre-nerfed Tactics Blood of the Innocents
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Posted - 2004.07.02 12:05:00 -
[51]
Originally by: hatchette My preference is incursus.. with 3 light anode nautron blasters and a named dmg mod. It's a BS killer. The powergrid might be a problem.. i have micro-aux mounted on it.
If i were to fly an interceptor.. i'll go with taranis.. One gun more.. and you can fit 2 dmg mods on;)
Incursus is very good allround and cheap, good for damage, or when you wanna go fast you can strap on 3 mwd and break the 55kms barrier for a very fast escape, interceptor wise, im unsure, crow looks ok, then again still boils down to personal preference in the end.
Xtro 2 - Tactically Insane Tradesman.
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.07.02 12:27:00 -
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Crusader is brilliant with 4 modulated medium beams. Takes up alot of grid, but it packs a punch. ------------------------------------------
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.07.02 12:27:00 -
[53]
Crusader is brilliant with 4 modulated medium beams. Takes up alot of grid, but it packs a punch. ------------------------------------------
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MadGaz
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2004.07.02 12:27:00 -
[54]
Crusader is brilliant with 4 modulated medium beams. Takes up alot of grid, but it packs a punch. --------------------------- What can I put here without getting banned? |

Morikai Acler
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Posted - 2004.07.02 17:15:00 -
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Ah hell, I'll throw in my .02 isk, since its not really my main combat frigate at the moment.
Merlin
hi Light Neutron (can be exchanged for 150mm proto) Light Ion (Can be exchanged for 125mm named, or tech 2 after they're released) 2x Rocket launcher
Mid 10mn AB (Tech 2 10mn can be a real squeeze if you sacrifice a bit of turrent firepower and go with standard missiles instead of rockets) Stasis web/tracking disruptor (depending on the weapon loadout) Tracking computer I (can't hit while orbiting frigates otherwise)
Lo 2x Micro Aux
With the frigate buff changes, the merlin has +5% shield cap and 10% optimal hybrid range now. Meaning over 400 shields with good skills. And fairly decent range on blasters and railguns. Can easily sustain over 1000ms indefinetely, and can take a fair amount of punishment as well.
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Morikai Acler
Caldari The Whitesands Consortium
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Posted - 2004.07.02 17:15:00 -
[56]
Ah hell, I'll throw in my .02 isk, since its not really my main combat frigate at the moment.
Merlin
hi Light Neutron (can be exchanged for 150mm proto) Light Ion (Can be exchanged for 125mm named, or tech 2 after they're released) 2x Rocket launcher
Mid 10mn AB (Tech 2 10mn can be a real squeeze if you sacrifice a bit of turrent firepower and go with standard missiles instead of rockets) Stasis web/tracking disruptor (depending on the weapon loadout) Tracking computer I (can't hit while orbiting frigates otherwise)
Lo 2x Micro Aux
With the frigate buff changes, the merlin has +5% shield cap and 10% optimal hybrid range now. Meaning over 400 shields with good skills. And fairly decent range on blasters and railguns. Can easily sustain over 1000ms indefinetely, and can take a fair amount of punishment as well.
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Morikai Acler
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Posted - 2004.07.02 17:15:00 -
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Ah hell, I'll throw in my .02 isk, since its not really my main combat frigate at the moment.
Merlin
hi Light Neutron (can be exchanged for 150mm proto) Light Ion (Can be exchanged for 125mm named, or tech 2 after they're released) 2x Rocket launcher
Mid 10mn AB (Tech 2 10mn can be a real squeeze if you sacrifice a bit of turrent firepower and go with standard missiles instead of rockets) Stasis web/tracking disruptor (depending on the weapon loadout) Tracking computer I (can't hit while orbiting frigates otherwise)
Lo 2x Micro Aux
With the frigate buff changes, the merlin has +5% shield cap and 10% optimal hybrid range now. Meaning over 400 shields with good skills. And fairly decent range on blasters and railguns. Can easily sustain over 1000ms indefinetely, and can take a fair amount of punishment as well.
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Zack K'Lorna
Gallente The Black Ops
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Posted - 2006.08.17 15:52:00 -
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Edited by: Zack K''Lorna on 17/08/2006 15:54:34
Originally by: Pandora Panda I'd say for 1-on-1 frig action - 1)Taranis 2)Kestrel 3)Crow
Against larger ships - 1)Crow 2)Kestrel 3)Rifter
I doubt a taranis will lose to an kestrel assuming both pilots are of reasonable skill, but its certainly not implausable.
If there was more than 1 Taranis against a larger ship, then that ship wouldn't stand much of a chance - which brings me to the point: Are interceptors more deadly in groups or solo? Using a metephor; 'A swarm of killer bees' for groups or just 'one killer bee'. (Even the smallest of animals can take out a much larger animal )
I'm an interceptor pilot and I use the Taranis all the time (Becuase I can only fly Gallente one's ) and the Taranis would be a deadly t**t with the right skills and mods, example skills; surgical strike 4/5, small blaster spec' lvl 5 and so on.. and mods like; t2 blasters, t2 small nos ect. (You get ze point, ya ya?)
At the end of the day though, the right ship for the right pilot will depend on the skills, mods and stratergies of that pilot.
And to answer your question, Necrologic, Taranis FTW!   ________________ Pwnability:  |

Max Teranous
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.17 16:01:00 -
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Necromancy FTL.
Max 
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Amazoph
Gallente The Caldari Confederation
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Posted - 2006.08.17 16:24:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Max Teranous Necromancy FTL.
Yep. Didn't realise it was an 04 thread til i saw someone say 'dual mwd'... 
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Christopher Dalran
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Posted - 2006.08.17 18:10:00 -
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Dont pay a ton more for the taranis that for the ares, there is not much of an actual cost difference between the two. Yeah its better but there is no real material difference to warrant the cost hike.
Be picky who you buy from.
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Shinon Asahina
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.17 18:25:00 -
[62]
Kestrel vs Inty battle, what do you recommend for your other modules and tactics? Try to web them? Sensor jamming?
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Christopher Dalran
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Posted - 2006.08.17 18:27:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Christopher Dalran on 17/08/2006 18:27:57
Originally by: Shinon Asahina Kestrel vs Inty battle, what do you recommend for your other modules and tactics? Try to web them? Sensor jamming?
Try poping their missile volleys with a Smartbomb?
Rely heavily on armor hardners on explosive?
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2006.08.17 18:34:00 -
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Edited by: Deathbarrage on 17/08/2006 18:36:58
Originally by: KrakizBad I am an Ares pilot. At first glance the Ares seems to be a turd of a ship, but beuty is in the eye of the beholder. With the 4 low slots i am able to run a 10mn AB and warp scrambler while using a 150 carbine and 125 carbine with anti ammo. I can then orbit a BS at aprox 7km, aim for 5 but speed of AB pushes me out because of centrifugal force. Using the AB makes me damn hard to hit as there isn't the penalty associated with the mwd. I can run this setup for about eternity, but keep in mind my cap skills are uber (currently working on energy management 5). It does take decent skills to be able to put this setup together as it pretty much uses every bit of resource available, but is super efficient.
The ares is also faster than a taranis. And sense i use my ares to transport mega and zyd from 50 jumps deep in 0.0 to emp., the extra little bit helps. And because of the 4 low slots i can have a larger cargo cap. and carry more of the rare scooby snacks.
I'm not claiming the Ares is the best, but i believe it is best suited for my use. If anyone has any other recomendations on the statements i've posed feel free to comment (but not flame). I'm not opposed to learning lvl 5 of other races frig just to try the inty's as i have 16 perception and 17 willpower, with only lvl 4 learning skills. Enough said.
you are weird..
edit: to contribute something; best imo is the taranis without doubt
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Murukan
Minmatar The Priory
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Posted - 2006.08.17 18:37:00 -
[65]
Big time thread necro. Bet this one will get locked
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Eleis Machuron
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Posted - 2006.08.17 18:46:00 -
[66]
Wonder why there isn't a policy that threads get locked automatically after x days without a response?
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.08.17 18:49:00 -
[67]
Kestrel doesn thave enough cap to cut it as an inty. Cant make the jumps nor have the cap to run dual scrams. ---------------------------------------- Friends Forever
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Shinon Asahina
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.17 18:55:00 -
[68]
Lol, I didn't even notice the timestamps, nice...
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Laocoon
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.08.17 19:03:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Amazoph
Originally by: Max Teranous Necromancy FTL.
Yep. Didn't realise it was an 04 thread til i saw someone say 'dual mwd'... 
lol same 
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Maeltstome
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Posted - 2006.09.26 12:10:00 -
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Why do people always overlook the Claw?
I'm actually glad - cause it means i generally go up against complete tards with no idea how to fight an inty that can actually 'tank'.
Claw > kessy btw. Proven repeatedly.
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Vexed
Amarr Defence Initiative
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Posted - 2006.09.26 13:14:00 -
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I wasted nearly 5 minutes reading the entire thread until I saw the dual mwd part and the penny dropped, I want my 5 minutes back....!
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Xo daNut
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2006.09.28 11:32:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Vexed I wasted nearly 5 minutes reading the entire thread until I saw the dual mwd part and the penny dropped, I want my 5 minutes back....!
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Lady Tammy
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Posted - 2006.09.28 11:39:00 -
[73]
crow, ishkur 
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Rei Toai
Faaip De Oiad
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Posted - 2006.09.28 11:48:00 -
[74]
i'm always curious HOW people find such ancient threads  __________________________________
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