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Michael Foreman
Enlightened Industries
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.04.03 18:39:00 -
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Rico Minali wrote:Everything in eve needs rescalign basically, planets and stars are too small, stations too, pretty much everything is too small. If you can put two battleships into a carrier then carriers should be FAR bigger than they currently are too. Loads of scales are way out in game.
Totally agree!
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Ai Shun
572
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Posted - 2012.04.03 18:51:00 -
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I agree, it would be great to get that sense of scale. (As an aside, good video series that illustrates the size differences here) |
Zoloft Rx
Forged Prophets
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Posted - 2012.04.03 18:53:00 -
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Rico Minali wrote:Everything in eve needs rescalign basically, planets and stars are too small, stations too, pretty much everything is too small. If you can put two battleships into a carrier then carriers should be FAR bigger than they currently are too. Loads of scales are way out in game.
Agree |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
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Posted - 2012.04.03 18:59:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:I agree, it would be great to get that sense of scale. (As an aside, good video series that illustrates the size differences here)
This video was posted in the OP. |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
295
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Posted - 2012.04.03 19:10:00 -
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One way you could tell the size of our ship is if you actualy see crew members running around behind those lit up portholes most ships have. I always thought they are portholes, they might be something else.... Nothing fancy just a few pixels of vague humanoid forms blocking out the light coming out of the port holes for a few milliseconds
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Terazul
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.03 19:11:00 -
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Actually, stations and orbital bodies do appear at roughly the correct size if you change the field of view. The default field of view is enormous, making everything appear much smaller than they really are. |
Adacia Calla
The Long Kiss Goodnight
Rise Against All
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Posted - 2012.04.03 19:17:00 -
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A Machariel is nearly the same length and width as a Thanatos, but a Thanatos has 10x the mass.
Yes, we are all aware ship scaling is messed up, no it won't be a priority since it changes nothing in gameplay.
Test signature....forum not applying settings :( |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
161
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Posted - 2012.04.03 19:22:00 -
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Ships were centralized in station when CQ was still in duality. Yet frigs were super tiny. Couldn't see jack. It was a design and game centric decision to adjust smaller ships closer to the balcony losing that scale just to enjoy your ships.
Would be nice to have that apr 1st joke video "screen saver" effect at the end of the vid to do flybys of all ships within your hanger.
Camera drones ruin the scale yet make the game playable. |
Michael Foreman
Enlightened Industries
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.04.03 19:24:00 -
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Adacia Calla wrote:Yes, we are all aware ship scaling is messed up, no it won't be a priority since it changes nothing in gameplay.
It should be a priority as EVE IS REAL!
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Telegram Sam
The Drones Club
247
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Posted - 2012.04.03 19:45:00 -
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Of course everybody has seen this Rifter vs. 747 comparison? |
Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae
ROMANIAN-LEGION
103
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Posted - 2012.04.04 07:24:00 -
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Alright, update to what I posted earlier about changing the camera perspective to change scale. Here are some of my fav screenies that make use of this. Course some of them don't do it really well for creating individual scale, but they do really change how battles feel and show how some slight perspective change using mechanics already in game really do make a difference
http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd332/KwKiller/Eve%20Online%20Screenshots/TheFleet.jpg
http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd332/KwKiller/Eve%20Online%20Screenshots/Death.jpg
http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd332/KwKiller/Eve%20Online%20Screenshots/Drone.jpg
http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd332/KwKiller/Eve%20Online%20Screenshots/Omnom.jpg
http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd332/KwKiller/Eve%20Online%20Screenshots/Reclaimator.jpg
http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd332/KwKiller/Eve%20Online%20Screenshots/Markusonlocation.jpg
http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd332/KwKiller/Eve%20Online%20Screenshots/20111106182015.jpg
http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd332/KwKiller/Eve%20Online%20Screenshots/20111202202838.jpg
This last one, man do I love this last one. I had the scale just right, was a visual overload. I wish I could have kept it like that, but game settings means any view change or camera reset resets it all
http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd332/KwKiller/Eve%20Online%20Screenshots/20111223035407.jpg
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Ai Shun
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Posted - 2012.04.04 07:36:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:This video was posted in the OP.
Oh dear God no! What have I done! I beg your forgiveness, Lapine. Please. Don't hurt me. No more. Please. Pleaaaaase.
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Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae
ROMANIAN-LEGION
105
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Posted - 2012.04.04 07:49:00 -
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Talk of vids reminded me of the best perspective video I have seen. Also why we really couldn't have eve ships in dust.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ti7mLcIQ1k
not mine. |
Otrebla Utrigas
Space Bastards
2
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Posted - 2012.04.04 08:00:00 -
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Ehm... you know what? Stations can have hangars in different sizes, so a frig hangar will be smaller than a BS one.
In the end you see both ships on the same size from the balcony, but just because the frig is way closer to you, than the BS.
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Michael Foreman
Enlightened Industries
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.04.04 11:03:00 -
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The ships don't need to fly that close to earth but wouldn't it be nice to be able to enter the stratosphere with the smaller ships and have fights in the air / attack groundsites. |
Hydroz0rz
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.04 11:15:00 -
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I have a different thought about ship sizes and that's that they're simply too large.
A frigate being 747 sized..
The materials for a building a ship of this size would indeed be perfectly fine. When we go into something like a Battleship, I think that It wouldn't be possible. The material level would be unimaginable to build one.
It wouldn't be possible to create such scale in CQ, It simply wouldn't work.
When you think the size of a BS and materials required, think onto the sheer size and material level of a station. It would take centuries to build and numerous planets worth of material to build. |
Otrebla Utrigas
Space Bastards
2
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Posted - 2012.04.04 11:29:00 -
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Hydroz0rz wrote:I have a different thought about ship sizes and that's that they're simply too large.
A frigate being 747 sized..
The materials for a building a ship of this size would indeed be perfectly fine. When we go into something like a Battleship, I think that It wouldn't be possible. The material level would be unimaginable to build one.
It wouldn't be possible to create such scale in CQ, It simply wouldn't work.
When you think the size of a BS and materials required, think onto the sheer size and material level of a station. It would take centuries to build and numerous planets worth of material to build.
Not really. Manufacturing in Space is way easier once you have the technology to do so. Just build modules across the world / system you are, haul them to orbit and connect them in space.
And about resources take into account than a single starting player can mine in few hours several tons of tritanium with a single badger and 2 mining lasers.
A mining company with hulks, orca support and good skills, can mine an asteroid field in hours.
The scale is OK.
Just think our own Space shuttle is half the size of a 747 (more than that if you account the full shuttle and not just the orbiter)
And a Nuclear carrier weights more than 90.000 tons of steel and aluminium. If a single country in a single planet can do that... I think you get the point
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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
The Irukandji
447
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Posted - 2012.04.04 11:37:00 -
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Seriously it's easy if you want to know how big it is:
Take a ruler and when no one is looking, maneuver it into position and measure its length. Now there are two schools of thought here, those who measure from the engine trail and those who measure from the edge of the engines. Use whichever measurement makes you feel more manly.
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Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
183
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Posted - 2012.04.04 11:43:00 -
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In WIS your ship is floating well to be honest in a spot it shouldn't be.
When you are in your ship you are on the pad.
This was reported a long time ago.
In fact in the Amarr station you are standing on what is open space when you compare the perspectives from in ship and WIS.
It was never fixed, maybe some day. |
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