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Lesican
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Posted - 2004.07.05 12:03:00 -
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Edited by: Lesican on 05/07/2004 12:05:47
 Originally by: Goldengamegod
Also perhaps a rating system like on EBay would be nice, if someone gets a really bad rating (over a certain amount of people vote thumbs down on a char) they can have a bounty put on their head or maybe take a sec rating hit or even get banned from escrow by the SCC for a month. If you get a really good rating it could cost less to setup an escrow or you could be given a priority listing or something like that.
Nice idea, but it may be up to abuse as well, if you are in an alliance type war you maybe facing400-500 enemies, they could all rate you poor, so your alliance would do it to them....this would mean anyone with a large enemy list would not get to use escrow
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Lesican
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Posted - 2004.07.05 12:03:00 -
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Edited by: Lesican on 05/07/2004 12:05:47
Originally by: Goldengamegod
Also perhaps a rating system like on EBay would be nice, if someone gets a really bad rating (over a certain amount of people vote thumbs down on a char) they can have a bounty put on their head or maybe take a sec rating hit or even get banned from escrow by the SCC for a month. If you get a really good rating it could cost less to setup an escrow or you could be given a priority listing or something like that.
Nice idea, but it may be up to abuse as well, if you are in an alliance type war you maybe facing400-500 enemies, they could all rate you poor, so your alliance would do it to them....this would mean anyone with a large enemy list would not get to use escrow
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Goldengamegod
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Posted - 2004.07.05 13:13:00 -
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Originally by: Lesican
Edited by: Lesican on 05/07/2004 12:05:47
Originally by: Goldengamegod
Also perhaps a rating system like on EBay would be nice, if someone gets a really bad rating (over a certain amount of people vote thumbs down on a char) they can have a bounty put on their head or maybe take a sec rating hit or even get banned from escrow by the SCC for a month. If you get a really good rating it could cost less to setup an escrow or you could be given a priority listing or something like that.
Nice idea, but it may be up to abuse as well, if you are in an alliance type war you maybe facing400-500 enemies, they could all rate you poor, so your alliance would do it to them....this would mean anyone with a large enemy list would not get to use escrow
but hey that's what the black market is for right
2004.12.11 03:07:32notifyThe Serpentis Mercenary is too far away, you need to be within 54625 meters of it but are actually 13193590680251 meters away. |
Goldengamegod
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Posted - 2004.07.05 13:13:00 -
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Originally by: Lesican
Edited by: Lesican on 05/07/2004 12:05:47
Originally by: Goldengamegod
Also perhaps a rating system like on EBay would be nice, if someone gets a really bad rating (over a certain amount of people vote thumbs down on a char) they can have a bounty put on their head or maybe take a sec rating hit or even get banned from escrow by the SCC for a month. If you get a really good rating it could cost less to setup an escrow or you could be given a priority listing or something like that.
Nice idea, but it may be up to abuse as well, if you are in an alliance type war you maybe facing400-500 enemies, they could all rate you poor, so your alliance would do it to them....this would mean anyone with a large enemy list would not get to use escrow
but hey that's what the black market is for right
2004.12.11 03:07:32notifyThe Serpentis Mercenary is too far away, you need to be within 54625 meters of it but are actually 13193590680251 meters away. |
AtoningUnifex
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Posted - 2004.07.05 16:31:00 -
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A simple solution could be to apply the Blocked list to escrow...
You see a scam on escrow, you add the seller to your block list, and bingo, you never see their scams again.
And hopefully you see more of the good stuff.
Cheers
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Collector and flyer of starships
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AtoningUnifex
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Posted - 2004.07.05 16:31:00 -
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A simple solution could be to apply the Blocked list to escrow...
You see a scam on escrow, you add the seller to your block list, and bingo, you never see their scams again.
And hopefully you see more of the good stuff.
Cheers
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Collector and flyer of starships
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GenocidalSpliff
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Posted - 2004.07.05 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Lao Tzu
Originally by: Etom Voke
Why are people allowed to advertize shuttles as Apoc battle ships/bpcs and sell them for millions of isk? CCP, give yourselves a good kick in the arse, then check the escrow daily and suspend then ban people who repeatedly do this. This is degrading to the game. It also wastes my time.
It's to stop total muppets from having to much money, inspect the deal before accepting it.
Exactly.
I still havent forgiven you for podding me 3 days into the game Lao Tzu 
2004.08.22 21:03:00 combat Your Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I perfectly strikes callonious [BSC], wrecking for 236.9 damage. |
GenocidalSpliff
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Posted - 2004.07.05 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Lao Tzu
Originally by: Etom Voke
Why are people allowed to advertize shuttles as Apoc battle ships/bpcs and sell them for millions of isk? CCP, give yourselves a good kick in the arse, then check the escrow daily and suspend then ban people who repeatedly do this. This is degrading to the game. It also wastes my time.
It's to stop total muppets from having to much money, inspect the deal before accepting it.
Exactly.
I still havent forgiven you for podding me 3 days into the game Lao Tzu
2004.08.22 21:03:00 combat Your Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I perfectly strikes callonious [BSC], wrecking for 236.9 damage. |
Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.07.05 22:24:00 -
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AtoningUnifex, agreed.
Blocklists should include escrow (but not normal market)
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |
Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.07.05 22:24:00 -
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AtoningUnifex, agreed.
Blocklists should include escrow (but not normal market)
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |
Dray
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Posted - 2004.07.06 06:45:00 -
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i like the idea of blocking chars, it is a pain but the real issue is having to trawl thru crap to find something im looking for.
I picked up this ace book today everyone rates it as a must buy for the budding military genius, tho ive decided to rename it as "Sun Tzu's art of the bloody obvious" |
Dray
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Posted - 2004.07.06 06:45:00 -
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i like the idea of blocking chars, it is a pain but the real issue is having to trawl thru crap to find something im looking for.
I picked up this ace book today everyone rates it as a must buy for the budding military genius, tho ive decided to rename it as "Sun Tzu's art of the bloody obvious" |
Teutobod
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Posted - 2004.07.06 07:10:00 -
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Everyone should verify they get what they are buying before accepting an escrow. That is imo not really the core problem here. It's the annoyance when the same person but up loads of attempted scams that block loads of actual escrows.
I also hate when the same person but up 20 escrows with the same item. That might be needed in case you wish to sell 20 350mm railguns, but then showing only 1 of them and give me an option to "Show more escrows from this pilot" would suffice.
Personal blocklists would be nice so you can just weed out the idiots yourself.
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Teutobod
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Posted - 2004.07.06 07:10:00 -
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Everyone should verify they get what they are buying before accepting an escrow. That is imo not really the core problem here. It's the annoyance when the same person but up loads of attempted scams that block loads of actual escrows.
I also hate when the same person but up 20 escrows with the same item. That might be needed in case you wish to sell 20 350mm railguns, but then showing only 1 of them and give me an option to "Show more escrows from this pilot" would suffice.
Personal blocklists would be nice so you can just weed out the idiots yourself.
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Beta Vixen
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Posted - 2004.07.06 12:50:00 -
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The other bit that needs fixing by CCP, and warning to all players until they do, is that the details of BPCs can not be called up in escrow -- there is no way to check whether this ship BPC actually has 30 runs on it, or whether it actually is ME 20 -- what shows in escrow is exactly the same even if the BPC was ME 7 and has no more runs remaining.
Advice [which carebears will ignore, of course] -- do NOT buy BPCs out of escrow. Insist on a live trade and inspect the merchandise carefully.
 <== carebear's face afterward
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I'm free! I'm free!!
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Imagination comes before Accomplishment.
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Beta Vixen
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Posted - 2004.07.06 12:50:00 -
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The other bit that needs fixing by CCP, and warning to all players until they do, is that the details of BPCs can not be called up in escrow -- there is no way to check whether this ship BPC actually has 30 runs on it, or whether it actually is ME 20 -- what shows in escrow is exactly the same even if the BPC was ME 7 and has no more runs remaining.
Advice [which carebears will ignore, of course] -- do NOT buy BPCs out of escrow. Insist on a live trade and inspect the merchandise carefully.
<== carebear's face afterward
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I'm free! I'm free!!
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Imagination comes before Accomplishment.
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Kivran Slangeorm
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Posted - 2004.07.06 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Beta Vixen
The other bit that needs fixing by CCP, and warning to all players until they do, is that the details of BPCs can not be called up in escrow -- there is no way to check whether this ship BPC actually has 30 runs on it, or whether it actually is ME 20 -- what shows in escrow is exactly the same even if the BPC was ME 7 and has no more runs remaining.
Are you claiming that the columns displayed when I expand the escrow's 'Inspect Merchandise' window are not accurate?
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Kivran Slangeorm
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Posted - 2004.07.06 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Beta Vixen
The other bit that needs fixing by CCP, and warning to all players until they do, is that the details of BPCs can not be called up in escrow -- there is no way to check whether this ship BPC actually has 30 runs on it, or whether it actually is ME 20 -- what shows in escrow is exactly the same even if the BPC was ME 7 and has no more runs remaining.
Are you claiming that the columns displayed when I expand the escrow's 'Inspect Merchandise' window are not accurate?
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Moonracer
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Posted - 2004.07.06 13:21:00 -
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If your that upset over scammers put a 5k isk bounty on their head every time you find one.
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Moonracer
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Posted - 2004.07.06 13:21:00 -
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If your that upset over scammers put a 5k isk bounty on their head every time you find one.
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Imhotep Khem
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Posted - 2004.07.06 13:25:00 -
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LOOK!!! TEMPEST BATTLESHIP !!!, SPECIAL DEAL. ACT NOW!!!! 25,000,000 isk WOW!!!
A. 
B. 
The choice is yours.
The only problem with escrow is the anonymity. If you get jobbed on the market by some joker playin' with the decimal places, you know who to declare war on. On Escrow, why not try to scam someone, it can't hurt except for the 850isk...
And I have to disagree, 90% of the items i inspect on escrow are accurate, 5% are understandable mistakes, and only a small fraction are blatant scams. Generally the more money you are spending, the more you want to verify what you are buying.
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Imhotep Khem
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Posted - 2004.07.06 13:25:00 -
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LOOK!!! TEMPEST BATTLESHIP !!!, SPECIAL DEAL. ACT NOW!!!! 25,000,000 isk WOW!!!
A.
B.
The choice is yours.
The only problem with escrow is the anonymity. If you get jobbed on the market by some joker playin' with the decimal places, you know who to declare war on. On Escrow, why not try to scam someone, it can't hurt except for the 850isk...
And I have to disagree, 90% of the items i inspect on escrow are accurate, 5% are understandable mistakes, and only a small fraction are blatant scams. Generally the more money you are spending, the more you want to verify what you are buying.
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BaJaiah
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Posted - 2004.07.06 13:33:00 -
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I'd like to sum up the features ESCROW needs - ASAP:
 Blocklist
Search feature: results from merchandise - not description
Inspect by expand and contract
Categorization: sorta like the normal market, only better 
Filter toggles to replace current selections: safe/unsafe/all systems, current station/system/constellation/region, placed by me/others/both, placed by lawfull/criminal/everybody etc
In fact I don't see why ESCROW is there at all, except possibly as a feature to add more gameplay by allowing scammers 
Why not just warp SCC into the nearest sun and let us sell everything on the normal market 
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BaJaiah
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Posted - 2004.07.06 13:33:00 -
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I'd like to sum up the features ESCROW needs - ASAP:
Blocklist
Search feature: results from merchandise - not description
Inspect by expand and contract
Categorization: sorta like the normal market, only better
Filter toggles to replace current selections: safe/unsafe/all systems, current station/system/constellation/region, placed by me/others/both, placed by lawfull/criminal/everybody etc
In fact I don't see why ESCROW is there at all, except possibly as a feature to add more gameplay by allowing scammers
Why not just warp SCC into the nearest sun and let us sell everything on the normal market
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