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FT Diomedes
Gallente Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2008.10.31 21:27:00 -
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Edited by: FT Diomedes on 31/10/2008 21:29:03 ...but only 3 missile hardpoints?
What is supposed to go there? Fitting the damn thing is already hard enough. Surely it would make more sense to have a 4 high slot (3 launchers + cloak). 3 mid slot, 4 low slot config, than the current mess.
Does anyone actually fit anything useful in that slot?
PS - I guess the same goes for all the stealth bombers. ------------
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Azuse
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.10.31 21:28:00 -
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Salvager. -------------------------
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Kleaner Kelly
ALLIED TACTICAL TECHNOLOGIES Collective Asylum
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Posted - 2008.10.31 21:29:00 -
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You don't have to use every one of your slots. _______________________
Sup. I'm an Alt. |
FT Diomedes
Gallente Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2008.10.31 21:32:00 -
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The damn things are already tight on CPU... ------------
Improvize. Adapt. Overcome.
Selling Gallente, Minmatar and SoE faction goodies (including Virtue implants).
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FT Diomedes
Gallente Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2008.10.31 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Kleaner Kelly You don't have to use every one of your slots.
Then why have them? ------------
Improvize. Adapt. Overcome.
Selling Gallente, Minmatar and SoE faction goodies (including Virtue implants).
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Arvald
Caldari Ninjas N Pirates
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Posted - 2008.10.31 21:35:00 -
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cloak 3 launchers covert cyno
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Malcanis
RuffRyders Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.31 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: FT Diomedes Edited by: FT Diomedes on 31/10/2008 21:35:46 ...but only 3 missile hardpoints?
What is supposed to go there? Fitting the damn thing is already hard enough. Surely it would make more sense to have a 4 high slot (3 launchers + cloak). 3 mid slot, 4 low slot config on the Purifier and Hound, than the current mess. The other two could use a 4 high, 4 mid, 3 low setup.
Does anyone actually fit anything useful in that slot?
PS - I guess the same goes for all the stealth bombers.
You don't have to have all modules online all the time.
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FT Diomedes
Gallente Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2008.10.31 21:50:00 -
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Edited by: FT Diomedes on 31/10/2008 21:53:20 I must be unusual in wanting a ship fitting to make sense for its intended purpose (ambushing and alpha striking small targets with long-range weapons). Even with maxed fitting skills, I find it very hard to T2 gank fit my Hound, that's all. Guess others don't have a problem with that.
PS - to me, having normal modules off-lined is unacceptable if you have maxed fitting skills. It's not like I am trying to fit oversized armor plates, shield extenders, MWDs or something else like that on these ships. ------------
Improvize. Adapt. Overcome.
Selling Gallente, Minmatar and SoE faction goodies (including Virtue implants).
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Ancy Denaries
Caldari Amarr Sisterhood of Galactic Sirens
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Posted - 2008.10.31 22:04:00 -
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Ignoring T2 launchers is a big step to saving on fittings. They only add to your RoF, which doesn't affect your alphastrike whatsoever. Malkuths are the best pick, since they use up the least CPU.
Balance is important, but you will always adapt to changing circumstances and you don't whine about stuff you can't change. |
Tanith YarnDemon
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Posted - 2008.10.31 22:11:00 -
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Am I special or something?
IF you want to utilize all slots and bonuses...
3x Cruise Launcher 1x Bomb Launcher 1x Cloak
That equals 5 highslots?
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El Yatta
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.10.31 22:11:00 -
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If you are using all their bonuses then it would be 2 cruise 1 bomb, 1 covert cyno 1 cloak.
Of course, they had this 5th slot before covert cyno's existed. Personally I think that bomb launchers should be like probe launchers and NOT use a hardpoint, so it could be 3 cruise, 1 bomb 1 cloak. _______________________________________________ Mercenary Forces |
Aleus Stygian
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Posted - 2008.10.31 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: El Yatta If you are using all their bonuses then it would be 2 cruise 1 bomb, 1 covert cyno 1 cloak.
Of course, they had this 5th slot before covert cyno's existed. Personally I think that bomb launchers should be like probe launchers and NOT use a hardpoint, so it could be 3 cruise, 1 bomb 1 cloak.
Too tight on CPU, already can't use T2 launchers, everything turns to crap.
SBs need a little tweaking.
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Kurull Skullsplitter
Minmatar Citizens of E.A.R.T.H. E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2008.10.31 22:23:00 -
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Like teasing a cat with a wiggling string just out of reach CCP is teasing us with that 5th High Slot. |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2008.10.31 22:44:00 -
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Edited by: Misanth on 31/10/2008 22:45:31 The 5th slot is where you are supposed to fit your Snowball Launcher.
Originally by: Tanith YarnDemon Am I special or something?
IF you want to utilize all slots and bonuses...
3x Cruise Launcher 1x Bomb Launcher 1x Cloak
That equals 5 highslots?
..more serious, what Tanith said. Bomb launcher is the logical 'free' slot.
As for fitting issues, nothing stops you from having useful modules offlined. For Cov Ops and Stealthbomber, you're already tight to fit, and you often have one 'utility' high.. great to put a cyno or salvager there. Neither is something you need onlined.
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.10.31 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Aleus Stygian Too tight on CPU, already can't use T2 launchers, everything turns to crap.
SBs need a little tweaking.
That's fine as an opinion but I don't think tweaking is what they need. The ship is supposed to deliver massive damage for its size class at a cost of everything else. T2 cruises and looser fitting are, IMO, outside of CCP's original intent for this class. It's a niche weapon platform that isn't meant to handle itself well in heavy combat.
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FT Diomedes
Gallente Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2008.10.31 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Misanth Edited by: Misanth on 31/10/2008 22:45:31 The 5th slot is where you are supposed to fit your Snowball Launcher.
Originally by: Tanith YarnDemon Am I special or something?
IF you want to utilize all slots and bonuses...
3x Cruise Launcher 1x Bomb Launcher 1x Cloak
That equals 5 highslots?
..more serious, what Tanith said. Bomb launcher is the logical 'free' slot.
As for fitting issues, nothing stops you from having useful modules offlined. For Cov Ops and Stealthbomber, you're already tight to fit, and you often have one 'utility' high.. great to put a cyno or salvager there. Neither is something you need onlined.
How can one fit a bomb LAUNCHER and 3x Cruise missile LAUNCHERS on a ship with 3 LAUNCHER slots? ------------
Improvize. Adapt. Overcome.
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John Agrippa
Hoosier Industries New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.10.31 23:46:00 -
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Just my .02isk, but I think the OP is over-reacting a bit. I've had loads o fun with Manticore's for a long time. Sure, it's a tight fit, but I've got several different setups for different situations, so it's also versatile.
I think the other racial SB's have less CPU though, so they might be junk.
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Horza Otho
Infortunatus Eventus Obsidian Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.01 00:51:00 -
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FT's Sig + whine thread = lol. -----------
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.11.01 01:19:00 -
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Originally by: FT Diomedes How can one fit a bomb LAUNCHER and 3x Cruise missile LAUNCHERS on a ship with 3 LAUNCHER slots?
Offlined Switch online/offline states in "relatively safe area" when you need to.
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Captain Ziltoid
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Posted - 2008.11.01 14:27:00 -
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Just as rolling a 20 in D&D warrants an auto-success (when the DM allows such rules to be enacted upon), CCP rolled a 20 when configuring this ship's high slots. Thusly, another high slot was added to its theoretical maximum.
On a more serious note: Who cares? Fitting goes more by CPU/PG most of the time, rather than how many slots you have.
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FT Diomedes
Gallente Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2008.11.01 15:11:00 -
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Edited by: FT Diomedes on 01/11/2008 15:11:32
Originally by: Horza Otho FT's Sig + whine thread = lol.
I'll accept that. Just got ticked off while fitting out half a dozen Hounds last night. Annoyed me to see that many ships with an empty or off-lined high slot.
PS - the original point of the thread was to ask what people did fit in that slot that was useful. And I got some good answers. ------------
Improvize. Adapt. Overcome.
Selling Gallente, Minmatar and SoE faction goodies (including Virtue implants).
I am looking for a good 0.0 corp/alliance. Convo if interested. |
Neyro7830
Gallente Stormfront A.W. Stormfront J.U.N.T.A.
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Posted - 2008.11.01 15:23:00 -
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They did it to personally taunt me.
Who knows, maybe I'll put a tractor beam on it for giggles. ___ I cannot be held responsible for the above post, because apparently,my cat has learned to type. :3 |
ChronoLynx
Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.11.01 16:14:00 -
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I use 'Malkuth' launchers. They are CPU starved and are decent for the stealth bombers role.
Sometimes I wish I could remember; Sometimes I wish I could forget.
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Taka
Caldari Quam Singulari Warp to Desktop
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Posted - 2008.11.01 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: FT Diomedes
PS - the original point of the thread was to ask what people did fit in that slot that was useful. And I got some good answers.
a gun :P
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Elhina Novae
Sky's Edge
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Posted - 2008.11.01 17:52:00 -
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3 x Cruise Missile Launcher 1 x Improved Cloak 1 x Salvager (offlined) ------------
Originally by: Boz Well
Originally by: SurrenderMonkey ... There's an Amarr problem?
Nothing that can't be solved by more Minmatar nerfs.
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2008.11.01 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: FT Diomedes PS - the original point of the thread was to ask what people did fit in that slot that was useful. And I got some good answers.
Well, I fit a salvager (offlined), but I think the idea is to have it as a utility slot. Either bomb, or probe launcher, or salvager, or whatever. Players-choice-slot.
But well, salvager is my choice.
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Atius Tirawa
Minmatar Wreckless Abandon G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.11.01 19:39:00 -
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Edited by: Atius Tirawa on 01/11/2008 19:40:33 I fill the last high so I can overheat the launchers.
And yes, the launchers need to be T1 named (arbies are what I use. . .but its a price thing). T2 cloak, T2 BCUs, and the rest are best named SDs (Munon), SBs (F-90) and so on. -----------
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Reptar Dragon
THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2008.11.01 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: FT Diomedes
Originally by: Kleaner Kelly You don't have to use every one of your slots.
Then why have them?
Can you go ahead and make it clear to my why you've made a thread complaining about having too many slots?
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