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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.11.02 02:03:00 -
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 Originally by: Sniper Wolf18
Edited by: Sniper Wolf18 on 02/11/2008 01:05:12
Originally by: Jacob Mei
CCP stated some time ago that the penalty is determined by where it happens, the standing of the attacker and the standing of the attacked. If your going to live the life of a pirate, honestly, expect the consinquences. If you just want to Be part of a giant blob of noobs who are afraid of harming their perfect 5.0 sec status, go join FW.
Fix'd
If your going to pirate you live with the consinquences and those consinquences is Concord saying stay out of High Sec. Im sorry, but the days of the high sec player by day, low sec pirate by night are long over and you have goonswarm to thank for that.
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Sniper Wolf18
Gallente
Apocalypse Ponies
H E L I C O N
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Posted - 2008.11.02 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jacob Mei
Originally by: Sniper Wolf18
Edited by: Sniper Wolf18 on 02/11/2008 01:05:12
Originally by: Jacob Mei
CCP stated some time ago that the penalty is determined by where it happens, the standing of the attacker and the standing of the attacked. If your going to live the life of a pirate, honestly, expect the consinquences. If you just want to Be part of a giant blob of noobs who are afraid of harming their perfect 5.0 sec status, go join FW.
Fix'd
If your going to pirate you live with the consinquences and those consinquences is Concord saying stay out of High Sec. Im sorry, but the days of the high sec player by day, low sec pirate by night are long over and you have goonswarm to thank for that.
Is CCP's fault, they caved in to the whines
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Armoured C
Gallente
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.11.02 02:06:00 -
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if you want to shoot people i say be a outlaw i also believe that everyone should live in low sec and empire to be deleted from the game
CCP give me a job please =)
forum moderator or anything
i beg of you
*composes self* i want to buff something :P
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.11.02 02:08:00 -
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Edited by: Jacob Mei on 02/11/2008 02:08:22
Originally by: Sniper Wolf18
Originally by: Jacob Mei
Originally by: Sniper Wolf18
Edited by: Sniper Wolf18 on 02/11/2008 01:05:12
Originally by: Jacob Mei
CCP stated some time ago that the penalty is determined by where it happens, the standing of the attacker and the standing of the attacked. If your going to live the life of a pirate, honestly, expect the consinquences. If you just want to Be part of a giant blob of noobs who are afraid of harming their perfect 5.0 sec status, go join FW.
Fix'd
If your going to pirate you live with the consinquences and those consinquences is Concord saying stay out of High Sec. Im sorry, but the days of the high sec player by day, low sec pirate by night are long over and you have goonswarm to thank for that.
Is CCP's fault, they caved in to the whines
 I would point out what you were doing, but that would be too obvious.
Adapt or Die.
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Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.02 03:57:00 -
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Stop Podding everything in sight.
Stop whining about the sec hit and do your time.
You choose.
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Mankirks Wife
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Posted - 2008.11.02 04:09:00 -
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If you want lowsec pvp without ruining your sec rating join FW. Yes there's huge blobs but I run solo 99% of the time, lots of other people do the same.
I've been playing since mid-2007 and piracy is the only playstyle I've seen consistently get nerfed - as more 'sanctioned' pvp activities are put in the penalties for being a straight-up pirate become more severe. I don't see this changing since people roaming high & lowsec killing everything in sight are one of the biggest things in Eve that scares way new players.
But if you want to be pirate, go right ahead. Lowsec is your stomping ground, you can do whatever you want and answer to no one. But don't expect any sympathy when the faction navies don't want to let you into highsec. Seems pretty reasonable to me.
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Lochmar Fiendhiem
Caldari
Quicksilver Industries and Painful Effects Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.02 04:23:00 -
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sounds like the op wants to be able to run back into 0.5 space the moment anything bigger then a hauler or shuttle shows up.
Originally by: Halkin
bob is dead, goons are great, cheese is cheesy, there we go no need for any more threads
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.11.02 04:29:00 -
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Originally by: downies
With the tiny amount of targets in losec now, it makes pvp kinda pointless there
So don't PvP in lowsec or stop whining and live the -10 life.
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Clair Bear
Coalition of Nations
Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2008.11.02 04:36:00 -
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Do what many other pirates do and roll an alt for empire logistics.
You're not RPing a pirate when you indiscriminately kill and pod everyone you catch. That's playing a bloodthirsty psychopath. Not that there's anything wrong with that -- but is it any wonder civilized people don't want you around?
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Cat Molina
Minmatar
Psychotic Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.02 04:43:00 -
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If you destroy someone's pod, you take the sec hit.
Which means if you self destruct your own pod, it should come back. Right?
RIGHT?!!
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Kyra Felann
Gallente
Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2008.11.02 06:24:00 -
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If you want to be a pirate, you have to accept the consequences.
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.11.02 06:52:00 -
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Originally by: Mankirks Wife
If you want lowsec pvp without ruining your sec rating join FW. Yes there's huge blobs but I run solo 99% of the time, lots of other people do the same.
I've been playing since mid-2007 and piracy is the only playstyle I've seen consistently get nerfed - as more 'sanctioned' pvp activities are put in the penalties for being a straight-up pirate become more severe. I don't see this changing since people roaming high & lowsec killing everything in sight are one of the biggest things in Eve that scares way new players.
But if you want to be pirate, go right ahead. Lowsec is your stomping ground, you can do whatever you want and answer to no one. But don't expect any sympathy when the faction navies don't want to let you into highsec. Seems pretty reasonable to me.
I wouldnt say its been nerfed but has beared the brunt of a fair amount of refinements from the devs. If you plot the course of major combat and sec nerfs its almost always is the result of a large group of players overly abusing a situation.
Tankable Concord = That one group (forget the name) that spent the day shooting at everyone in that high sec system and had a support team in place to tank Concord, even the devs had problems breaking that sieges. Afterwards to make sure kept its police like ability they buffed concord and changed some rules with repping others.
Wardecs = Privateers wanted to wardec everyone and were seriously trying to do it. Devs came in, looked at how they were doing it and changed the mechanics to prevent something like that from actually happening.
Sec status loss = Thanks to GoonSwarms jihad campain against miners it revealed to the devs generally how big of an inbalance things are when a 0.0 alliance brings its resources into a theater like high sec. A few days of destroying ships and pods could be fixed with an equal number of days of ratting in 0.0 to bring the sec status back up. Dev's came in and changed things.
Next up:
Insurance: Again, thanks to GoonSwarm, soon you wont be able to suicide gank someone and expect to make a profit off of it except in extreme situations.
To me, it seems the progression of nerfs to combat that isnt done in 0.0 or the wardec system (or when the system is abused or used in extreme situations) ussually follows when a group of individuals forces the dev's to pay attention. All the above cases are rather hard to ignore both as a player and dev so its safe to assume that any future "big things" will meet the same fate. Maybe next time whoever comes up with the next big thing will be smart enough to not announce their intention on the forums.
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F'nog
Amarr
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.02 07:27:00 -
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Originally by: Gridwalker
Why the emo, downies?
In the good old days, the REAL pirates wore their -10 security status like a badge. You simply weren't taken seriously as a pirate without a heavily negative security status.
You want to be a pirate by night, but still be able to grab a Starbuck's coffee in high sec by day?
Kids these days... 
-Grid
This reminds me of the time CCP changed the way sec status gains from killing rats works.
The wannabe pirates cried, "This is so unfair! Now I can't kill random people and then go shopping in Yulai. Change this or Eve will die!"
The real pirates either said, "How does this affect me again?" or "Sweet, now I can farm or rats without worrying that my sec will go above -5."
I can see that it probably should be changed, though. If you're really a pirate, the amount of loss shouldn't automatically matter. But if you're just out to get someone who wronged your or your corp, it shouldn't drop you into outlaw status. There should be some work to be considered a real pirate. Not just happen to pod a couple people, but actually hunt people down and make a name for oneself.
Does that make sense?
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba
Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero!  /me bows
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.02 08:13:00 -
[44]
Originally by: NuklearWinter
I agree aswell. Wanted to do some pvp in lowsec. found a pod which I tried to ransom. Wouldnt pay up so I podded him and went from +1 to -1.2. It does seem overly harsh. A person shouldnt be penalized THAT much just for wanting to try a different part of eve 
you're talking balls. you're not talking about PvP, you're talking about podding someone. this isn't "a different part of eve" and, even if it was, you tried it now, take your lumps and move on.
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joxter
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.11.02 11:21:00 -
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If anything the sec hit should be harsh for ship kills and doubly harsh for pod kills in low sec. Murderers have no place in high sec.
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downies
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Posted - 2008.11.02 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: joxter
If anything the sec hit should be harsh for ship kills and doubly harsh for pod kills in low sec. Murderers have no place in high sec.
Podding ISNT murder
Please define murder for me, as im sure it isnt murder when the victim is STILL ALIVE
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Boomershoot
Caldari
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.11.02 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: downies
Originally by: joxter
If anything the sec hit should be harsh for ship kills and doubly harsh for pod kills in low sec. Murderers have no place in high sec.
Podding ISNT murder
Please define murder for me, as im sure it isnt murder when the victim is STILL ALIVE
the fact that you can clone doesn't mean you can't die.
in fact, you die every time you are cloned.
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mahj
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.02 13:31:00 -
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"Podding ISNT murder
Please define murder for me, as im sure it isnt murder when the victim is STILL ALIVE
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Leviathan9
Gallente
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.11.02 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Sniper Wolf18
Yeah, i talked to those "real pirates" a few months after they went -10
apparently grinding back to -1.99 isnt an easy feat....
Man it was a *****.. though i never hit -10, i got to -9.9...
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Cadhla Ovsanna
Caldari
The Hull Miners Union
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2008.11.02 16:08:00 -
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wow. so surprised ccp decided to skip over this one.....
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Ms Massacre
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Posted - 2008.11.02 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C
join 0.0 ?
and you can solo 0.0 have you seen garmon ( at least i think that is his name )
plus 0.0 has rats that shave off you sec status
so it is the answer :P
garmon fights in low sec
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.02 17:00:00 -
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this just new, ambulation is really a guise for the implementation of a bridge between wow and eve universes
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Hotice
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Posted - 2008.11.02 17:15:00 -
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To OP.
If you don't want such harsh sec hit, kill the ship, loot the wreck and move on! Stop poping pods and then come here yelling bloody murder for losing high sec standing. Don't whine something when nobody forced you to do. It is your own choice so you need to live with it or change! You are worse than freaking true carebears....
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wdwjhdw
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Posted - 2008.11.03 09:10:00 -
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I just finished reading through a 10 page thread wondering how to get more people into lowsec.
Looks like CCP are onto it.
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Thuul'Khalat
Gallente
Veto.
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Posted - 2008.11.03 09:21:00 -
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I love the sec-hit from pods. Almost as good as the squishy sound.
Must have moar!
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Cyberman Mastermind
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Posted - 2008.11.03 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: downies
Podding ISNT murder
Please define murder for me, as im sure it isnt murder when the victim is STILL ALIVE
The victim dies the second the pod cracks open.
What will live the second after is a COPY of the victim. In fact, it is very likely that for a split second BOTH, copy and original, are alive.
The clone is nothing more than a rough copy of your body with a fresh copy of your brain the moment the pod was destroyed.
Depending on how good the clone-quality is, there will be few or many differences between the brain of the deceased and the now-living.
So they can't be the same person anymore. It's the next-best thing, but not true immortality.
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Illwill Bill
Minmatar
Genos Occidere
Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.11.03 11:48:00 -
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While that is true, it should be noted that it's the pod's own security mechanism that kills the pilot, and not enemy fire.
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Jogvan
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.03 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Ikathis sihtaki
Good solutin for you, just pod everyone, eventually sec loss really won't matter, now will it?
That's the solution right there 
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Dr Sheepbringer
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Posted - 2008.11.03 12:47:00 -
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Omg you get penalties from killing someone in civilized space! OMG! Go to 0.0 and stop whining.
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