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Judge Solace
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.04 03:36:00 -
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I find it interesting to see that before Mittens messed up big time that most of his lackeys where happy in the understanding that he had lots of wonderfull freinds at CCP and that EVE was great.
Now we see anti-CCP and anti-SONY propoganda appearing in the wake of events.
So now is the real campaign behind Goons to damage CCP as much as possible, and also to inadvertly take revenge against the player base. After all they "Love Us" remember.
Just wondering if the great scheme of things wether it has been realised by those posting that this kind of sentiment obviously wont go down well with CCP either or the fact that most Players are in fact quite enthused with CCP's future visions? But please <3% do continue to shoot yourselves in the foot. Such lovely tears also.
I for one think Fanfest was amazing however and am eagerly awaiting what CCP have in store for us, that's even with the tainted advertising of children being allowed to drink booze at Fanfest.  |

Selinate
780
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Posted - 2012.04.04 03:37:00 -
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The can of worms. It will not shut. |

Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
364
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Posted - 2012.04.04 03:47:00 -
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http://i.imgur.com/oa38q.gif |

Judge Solace
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.04 03:49:00 -
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Selinate wrote:The can of worms. It will not shut.
Don't know why you would want to bury this observation when it is obviously discussing recent trends in the behaviour of forum posting. |

Selinate
781
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Posted - 2012.04.04 03:50:00 -
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Made me laugh. |

Skydell
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2012.04.04 03:51:00 -
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You should really post this in CAoD.
Oh wait.. |

Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
364
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Posted - 2012.04.04 03:51:00 -
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Judge Solace wrote:Selinate wrote:The can of worms. It will not shut. Don't know why you would want to bury this observation when it is obviously disccusing recent trends in the behaviour of forum posting.
Just post on whatever main you have in whatever alliance hates Goons. Really we don't care. |

Judge Solace
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2012.04.04 03:54:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:Judge Solace wrote:Selinate wrote:The can of worms. It will not shut. Don't know why you would want to bury this observation when it is obviously disccusing recent trends in the behaviour of forum posting. Just post on whatever main you have in whatever alliance hates Goons. Really we don't care.
Too many to choose from I guess? lol
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Skydell
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
199
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Posted - 2012.04.04 03:54:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:Judge Solace wrote:Selinate wrote:The can of worms. It will not shut. Don't know why you would want to bury this observation when it is obviously disccusing recent trends in the behaviour of forum posting. Just post on whatever main you have in whatever alliance hates Goons. Really we don't care.
This, for real.
One man, 15 char alliance here. I tell them they suck all the time.
They don't care.
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Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
365
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Posted - 2012.04.04 03:55:00 -
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Judge Solace wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:Judge Solace wrote:Selinate wrote:The can of worms. It will not shut. Don't know why you would want to bury this observation when it is obviously disccusing recent trends in the behaviour of forum posting. Just post on whatever main you have in whatever alliance hates Goons. Really we don't care. Too many to choose from I guess? lol
There, now that your bias is public we can let this thread die a peaceful death. |

Judge Solace
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2012.04.04 03:56:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:Judge Solace wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:Judge Solace wrote:Selinate wrote:The can of worms. It will not shut. Don't know why you would want to bury this observation when it is obviously disccusing recent trends in the behaviour of forum posting. Just post on whatever main you have in whatever alliance hates Goons. Really we don't care. Too many to choose from I guess? lol There, now that your bias is public we can let this thread die a peaceful death.
Not at all, your assumptions.
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Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
729
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Posted - 2012.04.04 03:56:00 -
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Regular EVE players did not hurt CCP's reputation in front of Sony and thousands of players who were either present or watching a streaming video feed, a single person named Alexander Gianturco a.k.a "The Mittani" did that. Everyone should do well to remember it.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |

Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
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Posted - 2012.04.04 03:57:00 -
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Your basic premises aren't even true. |

Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
365
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Posted - 2012.04.04 04:00:00 -
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I will still can't understand how pubbie filth would think we would want to destroy the game we love to play. Eve is the only modern MMO around where goons can be the horrible, sociopathic bastards we are. Mittens said a dumb thing while drunk, the rest of us cringed and went back to slaughtering RaidenDOT like sheep. Oh and the posting, so much posting. The Eve-Online forums are nearly as rich a ground for being total bastards as the game itself is. |

Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
141
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Posted - 2012.04.04 04:06:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:I will still can't understand how pubbie filth would think we would want to destroy the game we love to play. Eve is the only modern MMO around where goons can be the horrible, sociopathic bastards we are. Mittens said a dumb thing while drunk, the rest of us cringed and went back to slaughtering RaidenDOT like sheep. Oh and the posting, so much posting. The Eve-Online forums are nearly as rich a ground for being total bastards as the game itself is.
Of course using the Internet as a medium for one own's sarcastic, biting humor is beyond the understanding of the filth.
What she said.
The only backlash has been against the gaming "media", who are a bunch of hacks. |

Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
365
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Posted - 2012.04.04 04:09:00 -
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Darth Tickles wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:I will still can't understand how pubbie filth would think we would want to destroy the game we love to play. Eve is the only modern MMO around where goons can be the horrible, sociopathic bastards we are. Mittens said a dumb thing while drunk, the rest of us cringed and went back to slaughtering RaidenDOT like sheep. Oh and the posting, so much posting. The Eve-Online forums are nearly as rich a ground for being total bastards as the game itself is.
Of course using the Internet as a medium for one own's sarcastic, biting humor is beyond the understanding of the filth. What she said. The only backlash has been against the gaming "media", who are a bunch of hacks.
A small number of them have posted retractions but the rest are far too incompetent to have even bothered following up their stories. |

Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
282
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Posted - 2012.04.04 04:09:00 -
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Selinate wrote:The can of worms. It will not shut.
The can of worm. It is empty. Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you. |

Judge Solace
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2012.04.04 04:13:00 -
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So do Goons now believe that CCP in conjunction with SONY didnt throw the Mittani "under a bus"?
Seems have been a re-ccuring message, and now posts are popping up with similar sentiment to make people feel "bad" about the developers.
Will the Goons actually go on record as being in support of CCP and Sony? |

Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
141
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Posted - 2012.04.04 04:20:00 -
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They did throw him under a bus. but it's generally recognized that they didn't have much of a choice after the story was sensationalized by the gaming media. There are varied degrees of blame leveled at various people dependent on the person, Mittani far from the least in most people's minds, but your basic premise that there is now some unified Goon front against CCP and Sony is blatantly false.
Your entire thread, beyond also beating a dead horse, is based on fundamental misconception of the situation. |

Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
365
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Posted - 2012.04.04 04:21:00 -
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Judge Solace wrote:So do Goons now believe that CCP in conjunction with SONY didnt throw the Mittani "under a bus"?
Seems to have been a re-ccuring message, and now posts are popping up with similar sentiment to make people feel "bad" about the developers.
Will the Goons actually go on record as being in support of CCP and Sony?
This isn't a black and white issue so stop trying to force it to be one.
Many goon believe CCP threw Mittani under a bus. Many goons support CCP. These are not necessarily mutually exclusive groups. Many goons have mixed feelings about Sony.
I personally think what CCP did to Mittens was a little too extreme. Removing him from the CSM for making an ass of himself at a player gathering is fine, especially after Mittani owned up to his mistake and was open to being kicked off the CSM. Banning his character for a month for an idiotic thing said outside of the game was dumb. I still think CCP has done some incredible things with the game in the past year and I really hope they continue to focus on spaceships in space.
I don't own a PS3 so will not be playing DUST. As long as Sony isn't planning on buying out CCP or forcing their way on to CCP's board, I'm completely indifferent to them.
See, not black and white. Human beings are capable of being complex special snowflakes. Show a little flexibility. |

Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
367
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Posted - 2012.04.04 04:23:00 -
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The so called "gaming media" can all go get ******. In general Eve-Online specific news sources had rather good reporting, shockingly even EveNews 24. The rest of the media, people who don't even play Eve-Online and have no concept of the cruel, unforgiving universe we play in, have done a deplorable job with this situation that has gone a long way towards blowing it out of control. |

Tinfoil Dan
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.04.04 04:35:00 -
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Woah... Wait.. Realize the truth!
The Truth...
See, microsoft realized.... The Truth... which is why dust isn't there... don't you get it? It is so obvious.
Sony is.... The Goonswarm.... Took em over with special mind control drugs in energy drinks!
It was all a plan, get the players to discredit Eve so they can take over the e-universe. But we showed them! Gave em a good ol carebear stare! See, CCP is in iceland so they cannot be invaded. The whole atlantic is laced with homing antiship icebergs guaranteed to stop an invasion! War of wits man! RMT funded those that want to take away our jellybean supply! |

Judge Solace
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2012.04.04 04:40:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:Show a little flexibility.
Thought i was by discussing it with you? I have given you an opportunity to clarify your current views.
Not my fault if originally you just wanted to just brush the opportunity under the carpet.
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Jon Taggart
State War Academy Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2012.04.04 04:48:00 -
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Regardless of the 30-day forced vacation, I doubt it was really that big a deal for Mittani. He could still easily take an active role in the corporation and delegate responsibilities as necessary. Wouldn't even have to login for things like that. I think the act itself - which I can admit was a tad unnecessary/extreme - was more of an issue than the results.
Besides, the Goons were never interested in destroying this game. EVE Online is unique for what it offers and it would be silly to do such a thing. They're more interested in having fun with people who get easily riled. And who can blame them? Look at all the drama that's taken place here. It'd be hard to resist stirring the pot. |

Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
368
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Posted - 2012.04.04 04:55:00 -
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Judge Solace wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:Show a little flexibility. Thought i was by discussing it with you? I have given you an opportunity to clarify your current views. Not my fault if originally you just wanted to brush the opportunity under the carpet. So here is a perfect opportunity to "knit wounds" as a result. And I mean that both ways. Of course you could just continue with your need to marganalise yourselves further?
You might want to read my post again bro. |

Ai Shun
576
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Posted - 2012.04.04 04:59:00 -
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Judge Solace wrote:Though I'm not what you think I am anyhow. This post is merely openening discussion surrounding a recgonition with a pattern of behaviour.
No, it is continuing discussion. In a different place. From the hundreds of threads on exactly the same issue that we've seen in the last week. You are not new. You are not original. There have been better variants of this thread before. |

Judge Solace
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2012.04.04 05:06:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Judge Solace wrote:Though I'm not what you think I am anyhow. This post is merely openening discussion surrounding a recgonition with a pattern of behaviour. No, it is continuing discussion. In a different place. From the hundreds of threads on exactly the same issue that we've seen in the last week. You are not new. You are not original. There have been better variants of this thread before.
Read the forums, read the anti sony posts. Read the signatures of those posting, especially those who want to see Jita burn.
These are recent postings, so I think it's fair to speculate wether there is a growing anti sony sentiment and to explore options as to why that is so. The most vocal being Mittens whining in sound clouds etc about being misstreated by them and it being an influence on CCP.
My interest therefore is to see whether said influences are based on legitimate concerns or predjudice and wether it's a healthy trend to see encouraged or if there are other motivations.
If Goons go on record that this isnt the case then that understanding will help to waylay fears and sentiment. |

KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
548
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Posted - 2012.04.04 05:20:00 -
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Metagaming, what is it? http://blog.beyondreality.se/Incursion-hose
Remove all incursions from hisec |

Judge Solace
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2012.04.04 05:26:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:Metagaming, what is it?
Suggest starting your own thread for different topic material. Not interested in diversions.
It's simple. Are you for Sony or against, happy to accept hesitations. Mainly just hoping to see sentiment.
Explain reasoning if you like, i really don't mind. But some significant objections voiced have been anti-sony and the relationship with CCP. You like the game, you want to see it succeed? Then in that context explain why being in any favour towards or against CCP's partnerships effects that. |

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
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Posted - 2012.04.04 05:40:00 -
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Judge Solace wrote:KrakizBad wrote:Metagaming, what is it? Suggest starting your own thread for different topic material. Not interested in diversions. It's simple. Are you for Sony or against, happy to accept hesitations. Mainly just hoping to see sentiment. Explain reasoning if you like, i really don't mind. But some significant objections voiced have been anti-sony and the relationship with CCP. You like the game, you want to see it succeed? Then in that context explain why being in any favour towards or against CCP's partnerships effects that.
The question he is asking Goonswarm is: "When did you stop beating your wife?" |
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