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Jaged	Posted - 2004.07.03 11:13:00 - [1] I have only been playing for a week, and already the excitement of this game is wearing off. I can't think of anything to do that sounds fun. What is there do do that I haven't done? There has to be something more to this game. It seemed so great at first. I fear now that I may not be playing much longer. Someone please remind me of something interisting to do in this game that I am not thinking of.
Jaged	Posted - 2004.07.03 11:13:00 - [2] I have only been playing for a week, and already the excitement of this game is wearing off. I can't think of anything to do that sounds fun. What is there do do that I haven't done? There has to be something more to this game. It seemed so great at first. I fear now that I may not be playing much longer. Someone please remind me of something interisting to do in this game that I am not thinking of.
seoul	Posted - 2004.07.03 11:18:00 - [3] There are lots of things to do. Join a Corp, Roleplay, Mine, Pirate, research, manufacture, Agent missions, visit the NPC rat bookmarks, explore etc etc. If you have done all these to the point of boredom in one week, maybe you just have a genetic disposition for being bored.
seoul	Posted - 2004.07.03 11:18:00 - [4] There are lots of things to do. Join a Corp, Roleplay, Mine, Pirate, research, manufacture, Agent missions, visit the NPC rat bookmarks, explore etc etc. If you have done all these to the point of boredom in one week, maybe you just have a genetic disposition for being bored.
Kildarin Farushna	Posted - 2004.07.03 11:19:00 - [5] 1. earn lots of iskies 2. being part of this lovely forum community and n00bs can't do much in the first week dude, that's why you'll need to train skills so you can do more awesome stuff. your still in ya bantam? than train till 3 million skillpoints, get a battleship go gank players(carebears/pirates you choose who to gank). ____ ->Lawless<- >>>New Formula<<< >>In your local 0.4 system soon<<
Kildarin Farushna	Posted - 2004.07.03 11:19:00 - [6] 1. earn lots of iskies 2. being part of this lovely forum community and n00bs can't do much in the first week dude, that's why you'll need to train skills so you can do more awesome stuff. your still in ya bantam? than train till 3 million skillpoints, get a battleship go gank players(carebears/pirates you choose who to gank). ____ ->Lawless<- >>>New Formula<<< >>In your local 0.4 system soon<<
Mandros Aslay	Posted - 2004.07.03 11:45:00 - [7] Edited by: Mandros Aslay on 03/07/2004 11:48:23 You are still Young in the scheme of things..... Everybody goes thru the cycle many times.... Skills maketh the Character. In most cases. Or the RL skills you may have in being sneeky , plotting or market trading . I used to aspire to a BS. Then to own all ships , then to Inty ships , now Covert ships ...and a cloak and and and ....so on. I now use the Frigates to do level 3 missions ..for the challenege. Ok that wanes to ...but its profitable. Killing npc in a Crow is better than riding a BS. More edge...cos one perfect npc shot would mean ....bye bye. I also joined in the Deemar Caliber event. I started out 37 jumps away and got to the guy and almost locked him twice. He evaded, he cloaked and he scammed. It was good fun. I didnt get the kill but about 60 pilots chasing one Inty for an Standard Implant was fun. What else ....visit 0.0 or low sec. Try npc hunting there. But you need skills to do most of this stuff I guess. Thats an investment in TIME. I mined whilst waiting for the skills to kill npc. Then I missioned like no tommorrow. I still mission, I still kill npc and I mine to make my own ammo. I research to get the chance of a "Lucky Dip Blueprint" that may change my life. I also helped in a minor way in the Jovian event, I played a small part (Forum hore mostly) and abit of ingame advertising. The game can boil down to maybe 3 or 4 elements....But if you focus to hard on such things u find interest fails. Life (RL) could be said to be EAT , DRINK AND SLEEP, Eve : Fight , Mine, Misson , Commerce. The flesh comes from the other players. Even if like me you have limited interecations. I chose to get a collection of ships that suit me, I rig them for flight/fight. I look for the best equip. I use my alts for a change of style in play. I explpore deep into 0.0 with a disposable alt that also I use as a channel to reward newer players / or scammers (cant avoid that sometimes). My alt does the trading ...I rarely buy direct. I take screenies of the "Eye candy" to use for sigs. I am still working on getting better at that. I use Fraps to make movies....as above I need to get better at that too.... I read the forums to learn new and also bizarre stuff I never knew. I watch the whiners whine and the nerfers nerf. I see the inteligent comment and the stupid (Not alway) flame. What else.....I need to pause
Mandros Aslay	Posted - 2004.07.03 11:45:00 - [8] Edited by: Mandros Aslay on 03/07/2004 11:48:23 You are still Young in the scheme of things..... Everybody goes thru the cycle many times.... Skills maketh the Character. In most cases. Or the RL skills you may have in being sneeky , plotting or market trading . I used to aspire to a BS. Then to own all ships , then to Inty ships , now Covert ships ...and a cloak and and and ....so on. I now use the Frigates to do level 3 missions ..for the challenege. Ok that wanes to ...but its profitable. Killing npc in a Crow is better than riding a BS. More edge...cos one perfect npc shot would mean ....bye bye. I also joined in the Deemar Caliber event. I started out 37 jumps away and got to the guy and almost locked him twice. He evaded, he cloaked and he scammed. It was good fun. I didnt get the kill but about 60 pilots chasing one Inty for an Standard Implant was fun. What else ....visit 0.0 or low sec. Try npc hunting there. But you need skills to do most of this stuff I guess. Thats an investment in TIME. I mined whilst waiting for the skills to kill npc. Then I missioned like no tommorrow. I still mission, I still kill npc and I mine to make my own ammo. I research to get the chance of a "Lucky Dip Blueprint" that may change my life. I also helped in a minor way in the Jovian event, I played a small part (Forum hore mostly) and abit of ingame advertising. The game can boil down to maybe 3 or 4 elements....But if you focus to hard on such things u find interest fails. Life (RL) could be said to be EAT , DRINK AND SLEEP, Eve : Fight , Mine, Misson , Commerce. The flesh comes from the other players. Even if like me you have limited interecations. I chose to get a collection of ships that suit me, I rig them for flight/fight. I look for the best equip. I use my alts for a change of style in play. I explpore deep into 0.0 with a disposable alt that also I use as a channel to reward newer players / or scammers (cant avoid that sometimes). My alt does the trading ...I rarely buy direct. I take screenies of the "Eye candy" to use for sigs. I am still working on getting better at that. I use Fraps to make movies....as above I need to get better at that too.... I read the forums to learn new and also bizarre stuff I never knew. I watch the whiners whine and the nerfers nerf. I see the inteligent comment and the stupid (Not alway) flame. What else.....I need to pause
Alonza	Posted - 2004.07.03 12:12:00 - [9] In one week.... 1) You haven't flown a battleship 2) You've never fired a cruise missile 3) You've never blown up another battleship 4) You've never intercpeted and ganked an indy carrying 2 x battleships worth of ore 5) You've never blown up an NPC convoy and taken its haul 6) You've never captured or defended a spacestation 7) You've never been podded by Moo 8) You've never stole ore 9) You've never commited industrial espionage or ebezlement 10) You've have not noticed the subtleties of the market and political system and exploited your knowledge 11) You've never manufactured anything at mineral cost and sold for profit 12) You've never been a pirate / mercenary / pirate killer 13) You've never been in a fleet battle 14) You've never run a blokade Oh, I could go on..... TBH in one week the game does look a little shallow, but there is a huge amount of depth here - it takes time to unlock it all.
Alonza	Posted - 2004.07.03 12:12:00 - [10] In one week.... 1) You haven't flown a battleship 2) You've never fired a cruise missile 3) You've never blown up another battleship 4) You've never intercpeted and ganked an indy carrying 2 x battleships worth of ore 5) You've never blown up an NPC convoy and taken its haul 6) You've never captured or defended a spacestation 7) You've never been podded by Moo 8) You've never stole ore 9) You've never commited industrial espionage or ebezlement 10) You've have not noticed the subtleties of the market and political system and exploited your knowledge 11) You've never manufactured anything at mineral cost and sold for profit 12) You've never been a pirate / mercenary / pirate killer 13) You've never been in a fleet battle 14) You've never run a blokade Oh, I could go on..... TBH in one week the game does look a little shallow, but there is a huge amount of depth here - it takes time to unlock it all.
Omega Man	Posted - 2004.07.03 12:44:00 - [11] if we wrote down what you have not done in Eve after playing a week the tonnage of paper would stop a herd of charging Elephants. It is hopeless to even continue the list other people have begun. You have not scratched the surface of the game, but like a lot of things, imagination and flair will improve your gaming experience.
Omega Man	Posted - 2004.07.03 12:44:00 - [12] if we wrote down what you have not done in Eve after playing a week the tonnage of paper would stop a herd of charging Elephants. It is hopeless to even continue the list other people have begun. You have not scratched the surface of the game, but like a lot of things, imagination and flair will improve your gaming experience.
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2004.07.03 17:05:00 - [13] Maybe it's because the man is getting to bored to do all of that stuff first. I dono if you all know this or not, but you have to wait along time before you can do pretty much all the good stuff. It takes days or weeks to train 1 skill level up in eve. Part of Eve's concept to me (New player that I am) is to sit here not actually play the game, just train and play playstation. So like im not even playing the game, im getting my ass beat in Tekken. Also getting isk on Eve is pretty easy, specialy mining. I mean i fixed up my probe and I go out and I mine for a hour and make about 200k. Then if im bored with mining I go pirate hunting and make about 50-100k. Im sure when i can fly my cruiser and hoarder, ill be able to make some real fast cash. But that's a week of sitting here doing nothing. So my point is, new players don't see it as you do. There is a hard level of "Boring" till you get to the core of "Exciting". Only reason I still play is for roleplay reasons. If I didn't like to roleplay, I don't think eve would be my choice of a mmorpg game. Just for the fact, I don't play games to be a first person miner. But you could always goto 0.0 secuity and player kill.. Umm yeah right.. -Famine Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri -The Frig-
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2004.07.03 17:05:00 - [14] Maybe it's because the man is getting to bored to do all of that stuff first. I dono if you all know this or not, but you have to wait along time before you can do pretty much all the good stuff. It takes days or weeks to train 1 skill level up in eve. Part of Eve's concept to me (New player that I am) is to sit here not actually play the game, just train and play playstation. So like im not even playing the game, im getting my ass beat in Tekken. Also getting isk on Eve is pretty easy, specialy mining. I mean i fixed up my probe and I go out and I mine for a hour and make about 200k. Then if im bored with mining I go pirate hunting and make about 50-100k. Im sure when i can fly my cruiser and hoarder, ill be able to make some real fast cash. But that's a week of sitting here doing nothing. So my point is, new players don't see it as you do. There is a hard level of "Boring" till you get to the core of "Exciting". Only reason I still play is for roleplay reasons. If I didn't like to roleplay, I don't think eve would be my choice of a mmorpg game. Just for the fact, I don't play games to be a first person miner. But you could always goto 0.0 secuity and player kill.. Umm yeah right.. -Famine Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri -The Frig-
Mrmuttley	Posted - 2004.07.03 17:29:00 - [15] Sorry to hear your bored after a week Chances are you dont have the patience to reap the rewards eve can give you that other short term games can't. Take for example Counterstrike. Learn the maps get one or two favoutite weapons shoot a lot of people on opposing teams and thats it. As the other posters here have pointed out in one week you dont even know all the things there are to do never mind got bored of them ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hmmm I need a Sig
Mrmuttley	Posted - 2004.07.03 17:29:00 - [16] Sorry to hear your bored after a week Chances are you dont have the patience to reap the rewards eve can give you that other short term games can't. Take for example Counterstrike. Learn the maps get one or two favoutite weapons shoot a lot of people on opposing teams and thats it. As the other posters here have pointed out in one week you dont even know all the things there are to do never mind got bored of them ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hmmm I need a Sig
Mikelangelo	Posted - 2004.07.03 17:45:00 - [17] Hah. Quote: Maybe it's because the man is getting to bored to do all of that stuff first. I dono if you all know this or not, but you have to wait along time before you can do pretty much all the good stuff. It takes days or weeks to train 1 skill level up in eve. That's because you are training for stuff all wrong. Traing leaning skills and attribute enhancing skills first. And honestly, do you know any other MMORPG that lets you go to ALL of their zones as a week old character? You can in EVE. Just hop into your trusty newb ship and head for Stain. If you do it at the right time, you may even not get podded.
Mikelangelo	Posted - 2004.07.03 17:45:00 - [18] Hah. Quote: Maybe it's because the man is getting to bored to do all of that stuff first. I dono if you all know this or not, but you have to wait along time before you can do pretty much all the good stuff. It takes days or weeks to train 1 skill level up in eve. That's because you are training for stuff all wrong. Traing leaning skills and attribute enhancing skills first. And honestly, do you know any other MMORPG that lets you go to ALL of their zones as a week old character? You can in EVE. Just hop into your trusty newb ship and head for Stain. If you do it at the right time, you may even not get podded.
OFFT	Posted - 2004.07.03 23:00:00 - [19] "I dono if you all know this or not, but you have to wait along time before you can do pretty much all the good stuff. It takes days or weeks to train 1 skill level up in eve." (I would have been offended if I thought u meant it ) Er ...Those of us that dont buy accounts Pre-set up... have all been there.....Eve is a game to "work-at" to reap the rewards. If you want instant and constant "Bangs for your Buck" u need to play a "Doom" variant game.... OFFT FORM LIFE :SIMPLE IN A COMPLICATED WAY Some players make EVE history : Other players are EVE history "We cant all be heroes because somebody has to sit on the curb and and clap as they go by" scooooshcrumpzerump (c) Random RandomnesesesesÖ
OFFT	Posted - 2004.07.03 23:00:00 - [20] "I dono if you all know this or not, but you have to wait along time before you can do pretty much all the good stuff. It takes days or weeks to train 1 skill level up in eve." (I would have been offended if I thought u meant it ) Er ...Those of us that dont buy accounts Pre-set up... have all been there.....Eve is a game to "work-at" to reap the rewards. If you want instant and constant "Bangs for your Buck" u need to play a "Doom" variant game.... OFFT FORM LIFE :SIMPLE IN A COMPLICATED WAY Some players make EVE history : Other players are EVE history "We cant all be heroes because somebody has to sit on the curb and and clap as they go by" scooooshcrumpzerump (c) Random RandomnesesesesÖ
P'tui Quyh	Posted - 2004.07.03 23:33:00 - [21] Wow, in one week you must have achieved a lot.
P'tui Quyh	Posted - 2004.07.03 23:33:00 - [22] Wow, in one week you must have achieved a lot.
Origim	Posted - 2004.07.03 23:42:00 - [23] Edited by: Origim on 04/07/2004 00:28:35 *snip -------------- Posting Efficiency / Rank 1 / SP: 68542 of 256000 \|
Origim	Posted - 2004.07.03 23:42:00 - [24] Edited by: Origim on 04/07/2004 00:28:35 *snip -------------- Posting Efficiency / Rank 1 / SP: 68542 of 256000 \|
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2004.07.04 00:01:00 - [25] Well for one I come from Dark Age of Camelot. A very heavy hard to level pvp game. Yes it does take the same amount of time to get active in pvp there as it does here. But of course the more skilled (Put more hours into the game) will always win. You of course can go to any zone you want as you do on eve. I goto 0.0 astroid belts all the time in a frigate. I flee because you know umm Pirates in cruisers and such. That's equal to me going to a dragon on Dark age of Camelot and running my ass away hehe. I think the term is exploring. Anyways, from my stand point. Eve is a world like most. Empires battling it out in politics and so forth. Which is a plus. Unlike most active mmorpgs that are popular.. You go out hunting and see new creatures and experience cool zones. You wont find that in eve. It's all the same typical solar systems. Only monsters/npcs are little ships. Maybe even a hideout of bandits. It's not a solar system of life and creatures. Just mainly players... Not that this is a bad thing, it's just something that makes the game more about the players than npc's. So thus making the game pretty boring in the begining as I stated. But if you did research as I have being im a newbie and all. You can see there is good roleplay, pvp, corp operations and stuff to do once you spend about 2 weeks training/mining. But everyone is diffrent. Maybe some of you got active in corps and the agrents that send you to kill easy pirates or have you jump 20 solar systems for 20k. I don't think that is to fun, but im willing to wait. Because the game is good, just a diffrent style that is considered "hardcore" to me. -Famine Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri -The Frig-
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2004.07.04 00:01:00 - [26] Well for one I come from Dark Age of Camelot. A very heavy hard to level pvp game. Yes it does take the same amount of time to get active in pvp there as it does here. But of course the more skilled (Put more hours into the game) will always win. You of course can go to any zone you want as you do on eve. I goto 0.0 astroid belts all the time in a frigate. I flee because you know umm Pirates in cruisers and such. That's equal to me going to a dragon on Dark age of Camelot and running my ass away hehe. I think the term is exploring. Anyways, from my stand point. Eve is a world like most. Empires battling it out in politics and so forth. Which is a plus. Unlike most active mmorpgs that are popular.. You go out hunting and see new creatures and experience cool zones. You wont find that in eve. It's all the same typical solar systems. Only monsters/npcs are little ships. Maybe even a hideout of bandits. It's not a solar system of life and creatures. Just mainly players... Not that this is a bad thing, it's just something that makes the game more about the players than npc's. So thus making the game pretty boring in the begining as I stated. But if you did research as I have being im a newbie and all. You can see there is good roleplay, pvp, corp operations and stuff to do once you spend about 2 weeks training/mining. But everyone is diffrent. Maybe some of you got active in corps and the agrents that send you to kill easy pirates or have you jump 20 solar systems for 20k. I don't think that is to fun, but im willing to wait. Because the game is good, just a diffrent style that is considered "hardcore" to me. -Famine Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri -The Frig-
Origim	Posted - 2004.07.04 00:07:00 - [27] Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Well for one I come from Dark Age of Camelot. A very heavy hard to level pvp game. Yes it does take the same amount of time to get active in pvp there as it does here. But of course the more skilled (Put more hours into the game) will always win. You of course can go to any zone you want as you do on eve. I goto 0.0 astroid belts all the time in a frigate. I flee because you know umm Pirates in cruisers and such. That's equal to me going to a dragon on Dark age of Camelot and running my ass away hehe. I think the term is exploring. Anyways, from my stand point. Eve is a world like most. Empires battling it out in politics and so forth. Which is a plus. Unlike most active mmorpgs that are popular.. You go out hunting and see new creatures and experience cool zones. You wont find that in eve. It's all the same typical solar systems. Only monsters/npcs are little ships. Maybe even a hideout of bandits. It's not a solar system of life and creatures. Just mainly players... Not that this is a bad thing, it's just something that makes the game more about the players than npc's. So thus making the game pretty boring in the begining as I stated. But if you did research as I have being im a newbie and all. You can see there is good roleplay, pvp, corp operations and stuff to do once you spend about 2 weeks training/mining. But everyone is diffrent. Maybe some of you got active in corps and the agrents that send you to kill easy pirates or have you jump 20 solar systems for 20k. I don't think that is to fun, but im willing to wait. Because the game is good, just a diffrent style that is considered "hardcore" to me. -Famine I agree with this. PvP, Fleet battles, alliances.. it's all fascinating and all, but to get there, you either have to mine or shoot at white dots that are NPC ships 20km away from you. Personally, I can't take mining more than 1 hour. Yes, I mine kernite in a 0.6 system... mining in .4 system isn't any different, it's just that rats are alittle harder. It's probably interesting to search for rare ore depotosits in 0.0 space, but my corp, AFAIK doesn't allow members to go out in 0.0 alliance space without permission. -------------- Posting Efficiency / Rank 1 / SP: 68542 of 256000 \|
Origim	Posted - 2004.07.04 00:07:00 - [28] Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Well for one I come from Dark Age of Camelot. A very heavy hard to level pvp game. Yes it does take the same amount of time to get active in pvp there as it does here. But of course the more skilled (Put more hours into the game) will always win. You of course can go to any zone you want as you do on eve. I goto 0.0 astroid belts all the time in a frigate. I flee because you know umm Pirates in cruisers and such. That's equal to me going to a dragon on Dark age of Camelot and running my ass away hehe. I think the term is exploring. Anyways, from my stand point. Eve is a world like most. Empires battling it out in politics and so forth. Which is a plus. Unlike most active mmorpgs that are popular.. You go out hunting and see new creatures and experience cool zones. You wont find that in eve. It's all the same typical solar systems. Only monsters/npcs are little ships. Maybe even a hideout of bandits. It's not a solar system of life and creatures. Just mainly players... Not that this is a bad thing, it's just something that makes the game more about the players than npc's. So thus making the game pretty boring in the begining as I stated. But if you did research as I have being im a newbie and all. You can see there is good roleplay, pvp, corp operations and stuff to do once you spend about 2 weeks training/mining. But everyone is diffrent. Maybe some of you got active in corps and the agrents that send you to kill easy pirates or have you jump 20 solar systems for 20k. I don't think that is to fun, but im willing to wait. Because the game is good, just a diffrent style that is considered "hardcore" to me. -Famine I agree with this. PvP, Fleet battles, alliances.. it's all fascinating and all, but to get there, you either have to mine or shoot at white dots that are NPC ships 20km away from you. Personally, I can't take mining more than 1 hour. Yes, I mine kernite in a 0.6 system... mining in .4 system isn't any different, it's just that rats are alittle harder. It's probably interesting to search for rare ore depotosits in 0.0 space, but my corp, AFAIK doesn't allow members to go out in 0.0 alliance space without permission. -------------- Posting Efficiency / Rank 1 / SP: 68542 of 256000 \|
Raia Mortius	Posted - 2004.07.04 00:29:00 - [29] dont know why you think eve newbie experience is crap. i thoroughly enjoyed it. yes, i was mining a lot but not for a second di i think it was broing. not with rats showing up. loosing my first frigate to npc and all that... first by myself then picked up by a corp rather quickly. i was gobsmacked when i first parked my imicus next to a megathron and instantly knew, there are things to do and to achieve. one thing though. to everyone who suggests you train learning skills straight away.. dont do it ! for the first 2 or 3 weeks train whatever you feel helps you get into a ship that you feel comfortable with spending some time in and lets you use the modules you need. then start training the learning skills. i mean , what is the point on training weeks on end and still only be able to fly your newbie starter ship. especially at the beginning skill training can be real sweet instant gratification :) remember when you were able for the first time to use an rcu and fit an extra gun ? or a cpu co processor to fit an extra miner ? :) or the time you took a rifter out for a spin ? and and and being a noob in eve rocks ! it is the time from 1m to 3m skillpoints when you are sort of in limbo and kinda half baked that annoyed me.
Raia Mortius	Posted - 2004.07.04 00:29:00 - [30] dont know why you think eve newbie experience is crap. i thoroughly enjoyed it. yes, i was mining a lot but not for a second di i think it was broing. not with rats showing up. loosing my first frigate to npc and all that... first by myself then picked up by a corp rather quickly. i was gobsmacked when i first parked my imicus next to a megathron and instantly knew, there are things to do and to achieve. one thing though. to everyone who suggests you train learning skills straight away.. dont do it ! for the first 2 or 3 weeks train whatever you feel helps you get into a ship that you feel comfortable with spending some time in and lets you use the modules you need. then start training the learning skills. i mean , what is the point on training weeks on end and still only be able to fly your newbie starter ship. especially at the beginning skill training can be real sweet instant gratification :) remember when you were able for the first time to use an rcu and fit an extra gun ? or a cpu co processor to fit an extra miner ? :) or the time you took a rifter out for a spin ? and and and being a noob in eve rocks ! it is the time from 1m to 3m skillpoints when you are sort of in limbo and kinda half baked that annoyed me.

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