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Bistot Kid The First Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2008.11.03 21:11:00 - [1] The rest of the world is relying on you not to screw it up! I can't recall every being so interested in the result of a foreign election. (I'm from England). -------------------- What? Me Worry? --------------------
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.11.03 21:42:00 - [2] Originally by: Bistot Kid The rest of the world is relying on you not to screw it up! I can't recall every being so interested in the result of a foreign election. (I'm from England). Whats the worst that could happen.... oh, yeah, that. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.11.03 21:44:00 - [3] <---- Has prepared and is bracing for a screw up. Slade Originally by: Crumplecorn NerfBat is now known as the WaveMachine. ≡v≡
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.11.03 21:49:00 - [4] Anyone care to make any wagers? Personally I can't wait for this to be over, in the last 2 weeks I've actually have had several groups go out of their way to visit my backwoods neighborhood to tell me who I should vote for.
Elliot Reid Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2008.11.03 21:51:00 - [5] Can America bring itself to vote in a black man as it's President? I ****ing hope so. _______________________________________ Atheism, a non-prophet organisation
Bistot Kid The First Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2008.11.03 21:51:00 - [6] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Anyone care to make any wagers? Personally I can't wait for this to be over, in the last 2 weeks I've actually have had several groups go out of their way to visit my backwoods neighborhood to tell me who I should vote for. I truly believe that Obama winning will go some way to pulling the world out of the current doldrums. For the first time (since Kennedy?) it feels like there's about to be a breath of fresh air and potential for real change. -------------------- What? Me Worry? --------------------
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.11.03 21:55:00 - [7] Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 03/11/2008 21:55:07 Originally by: Elliot Reid Can America bring itself to vote in a black man as it's President? I ***ing hope so. Voting him in isn't the problem. Keeping him alive will be. As much as I'd hate to say it there are bound to be several groups coughKKKcough* that may not appreciate him being in office. But on another note, if we're basing a vote on the color of a man's skin and not his policies then there's a problem there.
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2008.11.03 21:55:00 - [8] I got my EU passport rdy just in case --------------------- It's me! Your lovable forum warrior!!!
Deverian Tarik Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.11.03 21:57:00 - [9] If Mccain wins, I'll facepalm. -------------------------------------------------
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.11.03 21:59:00 - [10] Originally by: Deverian Tarik If Mccain wins, I'll facepalm. Take a picture of it so I don't have to use the Picard facepalm so often.
DubanFP Caldari Evil ALT Corp	Posted - 2008.11.03 22:02:00 - [11] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Anyone care to make any wagers? Personally I can't wait for this to be over, in the last 2 weeks I've actually have had several groups go out of their way to visit my backwoods neighborhood to tell me who I should vote for. Heh. No problems here, but Connecticut almost always votes democrat but this election is unusually strong. The democrats already knows they've won CT so they don't bother us while the republicans know they've lost here anyways and don't bother trying to win us over too. Of course there's a few individuals but luckily for us we avoided the worst of the election season. Very few commercials or people bugging us. I feel sorry for the swing states though. Sounds like they're getting hammered. _______________ "White, Black, Minmitar, Achura, Male or Female it doesn't matter to me. I'm an equal opportunity killer"
Benny Hill Caldari Deceased Inc	Posted - 2008.11.03 22:02:00 - [12] Originally by: Bistot Kid Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Anyone care to make any wagers? Personally I can't wait for this to be over, in the last 2 weeks I've actually have had several groups go out of their way to visit my backwoods neighborhood to tell me who I should vote for. I truly believe that Obama winning will go some way to pulling the world out of the current doldrums. For the first time (since Kennedy?) it feels like there's about to be a breath of fresh air and potential for real change. Define Obama's kind of change without invoking any sort of socialism.
Bistot Kid The First Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2008.11.03 22:05:00 - [13] Originally by: Deverian Tarik If Mccain wins, I'll facepalm. If McCain wins I'll pay for Robert Mugabe to fly out and help with an honest vote count! -------------------- What? Me Worry? --------------------
jason hill Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.03 22:07:00 - [14] Edited by: jason hill on 03/11/2008 22:07:53 loz... im still waiting to hear about abama`s policies.... does he have any ?...or is he pulling the same trick that Tony Blair did by saying sweet bugger all untill he got elected the 1st time round destroy everything you touch
Bistot Kid The First Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2008.11.03 22:09:00 - [15] Originally by: Benny Hill Define Obama's kind of change without invoking any sort of socialism. I'm hoping US foreign policy will be in for a major change, which will free up tons of military spending. Then perhaps some of that could be spent on sorting out New Orleans and the like. -------------------- What? Me Worry? --------------------
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.11.03 22:17:00 - [16] Originally by: Bistot Kid Originally by: Benny Hill Define Obama's kind of change without invoking any sort of socialism. I'm hoping US foreign policy will be in for a major change, which will free up tons of military spending. Then perhaps some of that could be spent on sorting out New Orleans and the like. I'll never understand New Orleans. Why would anyone in their right mind build a major city under the water level in the direct path of a hurricane crossing? It's like building your house on a volcano and then wondering why you have lava flowing through your living room.
DubanFP Caldari Evil ALT Corp	Posted - 2008.11.03 22:21:00 - [17] Originally by: Benny Hill Define Obama's kind of change without invoking any sort of socialism. And that's a problem how? The US is already semi-socialistic a much as you want to believe otherwise. Full Socialism doesn't work but neither does full Capitalism. Think about this. Who has a higher income tax, People with high incomes or low incomes? Larger amounts of financial aid go to students who's parents have less to offer. Minimum wage among other various employment rules ensure the lower paid people can still live. Capitalism works because it offers rewards for working harder and going somewhere in life, but low levels of socialism ensures everybody actually has the chance to take advantage of Capitalism. Remember, during the years of pure capitalsim during the late 1800s and early 1900s a lot of people were forced into dangerous low paying jobs without escape where the company owned EVERYTHING. _______________ "White, Black, Minmitar, Achura, Male or Female it doesn't matter to me. I'm an equal opportunity killer"
PKlavins Caldari The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.11.03 22:21:00 - [18] By 'screw up' I assume the OP means 'elect McCain'... because if that happens, Bush Episode III will begin. Hopefully the polls will be prophetic and Obama will win... we'll know in about 30 hours... The new 7.5km web = web + scram = "Wamble".
Ademaro Imre Caldari Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.11.03 22:23:00 - [19] Originally by: Bistot Kid Originally by: Benny Hill Define Obama's kind of change without invoking any sort of socialism. I'm hoping US foreign policy will be in for a major change, which will free up tons of military spending. Then perhaps some of that could be spent on sorting out New Orleans and the like. The Bush administration is already winding the war in Iraq down and is putting the final nails in the coffin for the Afganistan resistance. Barak Obama has even admitted it would be 16 months at least before he did anything, and that comes out to about the same timeline as the Bush Administration. Incidentally, the US spends 6x as much on Social Security payments than the entire department of defense budget. He essentially will not be doing anything differently, that is, if he keeps his campaign promises. Note Barak Obama also wants to create a Civilian Security Force, with as much power, and the same budget as the US military, to fight terrorism in the US. That would be a doubling of the defense budget! I don't think he really means that, and has something like the American Protective League in mind.
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.11.03 22:25:00 - [20] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Deverian Tarik If Mccain wins, I'll facepalm. Take a picture of it so I don't have to use the Picard facepalm so often. you can have mine too Wyvern & Chimera fitting flowchart @ Iceland from 3-11 til 8-11
jason hill Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.03 22:27:00 - [21] according to the BBC obama (if he gets elected ) is going to ask britan for 300 thousand more troop to help him in a surge .. ! personally cant see that going down very well over this side of the pond tbfh destroy everything you touch
DubanFP Caldari Evil ALT Corp	Posted - 2008.11.03 22:28:00 - [22] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich I'll never understand New Orleans. Why would anyone in their right mind build a major city under the water level... They didn't. Constant floods deposited large amounts of river soot there. Once farmers realized how ideal the soil was "because of the soot" they built farms there but it kept getting flooded over. They built flood walls from the river which saved them for a time but no more soot was deposited on the bank from the river. A city, New Orleans, grew up there because of the ideal trade location. Unfortunately without new soot being deposited from the river the rich soil began to collapse like a sponge. The entire city sank well after it was established. _______________ "White, Black, Minmitar, Achura, Male or Female it doesn't matter to me. I'm an equal opportunity killer"
Bistot Kid The First Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2008.11.03 22:29:00 - [23] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich I'll never understand New Orleans. Why would anyone in their right mind build a major city under the water level in the direct path of a hurricane crossing? It's like building your house on a volcano and then wondering why you have lava flowing through your living room. I guess they just didn't realise that when they first settled there. LA / San Francisco (& Tokyo?) are on a major fault line. Naples is so near mount Etna it's lucky the wind wasn't blowing the other way or Pompeii would be a thriving city and Naples would be somewhere tourists marvel at. Places just spring up, often unplanned. -------------------- What? Me Worry? --------------------
Ademaro Imre Caldari Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.11.03 22:29:00 - [24] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Bistot Kid Originally by: Benny Hill Define Obama's kind of change without invoking any sort of socialism. I'm hoping US foreign policy will be in for a major change, which will free up tons of military spending. Then perhaps some of that could be spent on sorting out New Orleans and the like. I'll never understand New Orleans. Why would anyone in their right mind build a major city under the water level in the direct path of a hurricane crossing? It's like building your house on a volcano and then wondering why you have lava flowing through your living room. Not quite. If you added: 1. Not evacuate when warned 2. Demand that the US government rebuild your house on the same volcano. 3. Demand that the US government subsidize home insurance for you for your location. 4. Claim that the government was racist for not rescuing you because rescue vehicles might have melted in the lava Thne you would have gotten the New Orleans situation nailed.
Bistot Kid The First Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2008.11.03 22:30:00 - [25] Originally by: jason hill according to the BBC obama (if he gets elected ) is going to ask britan for 300 thousand more troop to help him in a surge .. ! personally cant see that going down very well over this side of the pond tbfh Do we even have 300 thousand troops, even if we sent all of them? -------------------- What? Me Worry? --------------------
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.11.03 22:40:00 - [26] Originally by: Ademaro Imre Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Bistot Kid Originally by: Benny Hill Define Obama's kind of change without invoking any sort of socialism. I'm hoping US foreign policy will be in for a major change, which will free up tons of military spending. Then perhaps some of that could be spent on sorting out New Orleans and the like. I'll never understand New Orleans. Why would anyone in their right mind build a major city under the water level in the direct path of a hurricane crossing? It's like building your house on a volcano and then wondering why you have lava flowing through your living room. Not quite. If you added: 1. Not evacuate when warned 2. Demand that the US government rebuild your house on the same volcano. 3. Demand that the US government subsidize home insurance for you for your location. 4. Claim that the government was racist for not rescuing you because rescue vehicles might have melted in the lava Then you would have gotten the New Orleans situation nailed. noooooooooooooo I'm not adding all that. I'm just talking about faulty engineering in general. Like building a square house in high wind areas. I would think something igloo shaped, while not as pretty, would be a tad more aerodynamic and less likely to shatter under pressure. Or like I said building your house under water level and then wonder each year why your street is under 5 feet of water (watch the news, every year you see the same group of rednecks in the same boat rowing down the same street.) Several nations like to build little societies on volcanic islands and we know how that tends to end up. Then theres trailer parks and tornado's.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.11.03 22:43:00 - [27] Several scenarios : 1. McCain wins. Two years from now, the USA is involved in at least 2 more wars. 2. McCain wins but dies of heart attack soon after being invested. Pallin gets to be prez. Ouch. 3. Obama wins. Months after his term starts, he dies (either in an "accident" or an old-fashioned assasination). 4. Obama wins, survives. USA suffers the unavoidable economic crash during his first term, or he manages to keep a semblance of prosperity for a while... he gets re-elected and the crash gets to happen during his second term anyway. Either way, you poor USians are screwed. HAPPY VOTING ! _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.11.03 22:48:00 - [28] Originally by: Akita T Several scenarios : 1. McCain wins. Two years from now, the USA is involved in at least 2 more wars. 2. McCain wins but dies of heart attack soon after being invested. Pallin gets to be prez. Ouch. 3. Obama wins. Months after his term starts, he dies (either in an "accident" or an old-fashioned assasination). Needless riots break out claiming racism but really we just wanted that new tv. 4. Obama wins, survives. USA suffers the unavoidable economic crash during his first term, or he manages to keep a semblance of prosperity for a while... he gets re-elected and the crash gets to happen during his second term anyway. 5. Obama's strategy is flawless and makes lives much better but then he enacts his plans to ban firearms and ammo. US plunges into a civil war. Either way, you poor USians are screwed. HAPPY VOTING ! Made a few changes.
Martin Mckenna Shake n Bake	Posted - 2008.11.03 22:51:00 - [29] Originally by: jason hill Edited by: jason hill on 03/11/2008 22:11:32 Edited by: jason hill on 03/11/2008 22:09:39 Edited by: jason hill on 03/11/2008 22:07:53 loz... im still waiting to hear about abama`s policies.... does he have any ?...or is he pulling the same trick that Tony Blair did by saying sweet bugger all untill he got elected the 1st time round... ahh yes i remeber it now change change change ..was tonies policy then ...not that im sure that obama didnt think of that one by hinself of course ..lolz things....... can only get better !... what an anthem tbh its all about the lesser of the 2 idiots ---------------------------------------------
PKlavins Caldari The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.11.03 22:51:00 - [30] Originally by: Akita T Several scenarios : 1. McCain wins. Two years from now, the USA is involved in at least 2 more wars. 2. McCain wins but dies of heart attack soon after being invested. Pallin gets to be prez. Ouch. 3. Obama wins. Months after his term starts, he dies (either in an "accident" or an old-fashioned assasination). 4. Obama wins, survives. USA suffers the unavoidable economic crash during his first term, or he manages to keep a semblance of prosperity for a while... he gets re-elected and the crash gets to happen during his second term anyway. Either way, you poor USians are screwed. HAPPY VOTING ! To be honest the second scenario is the scariest... seeing that... thing... as president would surely make all other countries laugh at the US... or at least it should... Scenario 1 is second worst; we don't need more war considering the economic condition of the world. Scenario 3 would show that America's not ready for change, and 4 is the 'best case' on your list... a rather depressing list, but so be it... What if Obama is elected and manages to contain the economic crisis on a manageable level, successfully concludes the war in Iraq and manages to get the upper hand in Afghanistan? Well firstly then it'd be a dream... but that'd be the best best case scenario. We can wish, can't we... The new 7.5km web = web + scram = "Wamble".

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