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Monkey Rat Caldari The Nietzian Way Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.04 13:46:00 - [1] With BoB retreating to M-O to lick their wounds and the NC mopping up all BoB poses in E-O, what will the next move be? The NC is unlikely to try and take down the titan protected cyno jammer in M-O and BoB have to go on the offensive to justify their MAX Damage manifesto. E-O and 15W are the obvious targets but with the NC consistently outperforming BoB in those systems will the focus move elsewhere? Also, why haven't GoonSwarm done a similar MAX campaign against BoB while BoB's cap fleet is busy in the north? You could call it something funny and set the same non-specific, 'can't lose' type of goals associated to BoB's MAX campaign. BoB would either have to pull back or lose a couple of systems in the south. A significant loss of face for BoB either way.
Dorian Novak	Posted - 2008.11.04 13:49:00 - [2] 1st
Antoine Lefevre Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.11.04 13:51:00 - [3] dunno, man. Btw how's sunglassesinspace?
Shadoo North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.11.04 13:51:00 - [4] I read the post, and only thing I could think of was: holy **** -- is hydra still alive?
Diehard Si Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.11.04 13:51:00 - [5] I would hope lots of fighting Does anyone actually want anything different?
Diehard Si Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.11.04 13:52:00 - [6] Edited by: Diehard Si on 04/11/2008 13:51:51 Originally by: Shadoo I read the post, and only thing I could think of was: holy **** -- is hydra still alive? haha, my very first thought too!
Antoine Lefevre Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.11.04 13:52:00 - [7] Originally by: Shadoo I read the post, and only thing I could think of was: holy **** -- is hydra still alive? i heard they merged with kia, dunno if it's true though
RedHairedDude Gallente Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.11.04 13:53:00 - [8] Where is my cookie? -------------------------- I am not spamming, it's just text is apearing with my signature on it!
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.04 13:54:00 - [9] Originally by: Antoine Lefevre i heard they merged with kia, dunno if it's true though Lol KIA EVE Home KIA in game Public Channel "KIA" KIA are Currently recruiting active PvP minded players. Contact Imperius Blackheart
Monkey Rat Caldari The Nietzian Way Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.04 13:54:00 - [10] Originally by: Shadoo I read the post, and only thing I could think of was: holy **** -- is hydra still alive? I wish you guys had come along sooner though.

Jallem Sims Minmatar Quantum Industries	Posted - 2008.11.04 13:59:00 - [11] Originally by: Shadoo I read the post, and only thing I could think of was: holy **** -- is hydra still alive?
Machine Delta GoonWaffe	Posted - 2008.11.04 14:07:00 - [12] Originally by: Monkey Rat With BoB retreating to M-O to lick their wounds and the NC mopping up all BoB poses in E-O, what will the next move be? The NC is unlikely to try and take down the titan protected cyno jammer in M-O and BoB have to go on the offensive to justify their MAX Damage manifesto. E-O and 15W are the obvious targets but with the NC consistently outperforming BoB in those systems will the focus move elsewhere? Also, why haven't GoonSwarm done a similar MAX campaign against BoB while BoB's cap fleet is busy in the north? You could call it something funny and set the same non-specific, 'can't lose' type of goals associated to BoB's MAX campaign. BoB would either have to pull back or lose a couple of systems in the south. A significant loss of face for BoB either way. We were soundly defeated in Delve and have been falling apart ever since. Don't you read CAOD?
Thimerion shadow and flame Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.04 14:10:00 - [13] Originally by: Antoine Lefevre Originally by: Shadoo I read the post, and only thing I could think of was: holy **** -- is hydra still alive? i heard they merged with kia, dunno if it's true though Nope, only 1 hydra corp joined KIA, a fair few joined PURE (who subsequently died) and trhe rest of us went our own sepperate ways. /me waves to Gashon
Jim Linger D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.11.04 14:13:00 - [14] Edited by: Jim Linger on 04/11/2008 14:16:16
Monkey Rat The Nietzian Way Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.04 14:21:00 - [15] Originally by: Machine Delta We were soundly defeated in Delve and have been falling apart ever since. Don't you read CAOD? My apologies. I was getting confused by all that space you still hold
hybridundertaker Amarr coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.11.04 14:22:00 - [16] Originally by: Jim Linger i agree with jim on this one EvE +NLINE - T+TALHELLDEATH SUPPORTER
Blooded Heromy Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.11.04 14:28:00 - [17] Originally by: Antoine Lefevre Originally by: Shadoo I read the post, and only thing I could think of was: holy **** -- is hydra still alive? i heard they merged with kia, dunno if it's true though actualy same results then. Signature removed. Please review the forum rules or e-mail us with any questions - Petwraith
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.04 14:32:00 - [18] Monkey Rat, why don't you tell us about Hydra instead? --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
ElrondMD The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.11.04 14:34:00 - [19] Or alternatively, get off CAOD.
Monkey Rat The Nietzian Way Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.04 14:48:00 - [20] Originally by: Fred0 Monkey Rat, why don't you tell us about Hydra instead? Not much to say really. My account is free (boot.ini compensation) so I decided to stay and see where Gashon took Hydra after the Tri invasion. Been docked in Jita recently waiting for our standings to be sorted out so I don't get shot at by the NC

Veldya Guristari Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2008.11.04 14:48:00 - [21] I'm curious as to what Hydra, Pure and IRON are up to or what happened to their member corps.
Thimerion shadow and flame Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.04 14:53:00 - [22] My corp affter a breif stint in IAC is now in arcane, DEFCON i think is now in a NC alliance, Ardin is allso in Arcane with us, a fair few corps dispanded/merged and the rest well who knows.
Raymond Dawkins School of Applied Fail	Posted - 2008.11.04 14:59:00 - [23] lolhydra ________ kthxbye
Ethen Bejorn Pestilent Industries Amalgamated	Posted - 2008.11.04 15:18:00 - [24] Originally by: Raymond Dawkins lolhydra
Dally Amarr Hematite Rose Bionic Dawn	Posted - 2008.11.04 15:19:00 - [25] Edited by: Dally on 04/11/2008 15:20:31 Neitzian Way bailed on Hydra to save their station and joined Pure. When Pure Died they rejoined Hydra as the only active corp and now are hiding in a dead end const in Vale. OP's attempt to stir the pot is lol, but must thank you for reminding me to come visit your dead end more often Fighting Hydra is great. please field more Pests with 1 large arty and a full rack of gyros.
Lumen Atra GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.11.04 15:30:00 - [26] Originally by: Monkey Rat With BoB retreating to M-O to lick their wounds and the NC mopping up all BoB poses in E-O, what will the next move be? The NC is unlikely to try and take down the titan protected cyno jammer in M-O and BoB have to go on the offensive to justify their MAX Damage manifesto. E-O and 15W are the obvious targets but with the NC consistently outperforming BoB in those systems will the focus move elsewhere? Also, why haven't GoonSwarm done a similar MAX campaign against BoB while BoB's cap fleet is busy in the north? You could call it something funny and set the same non-specific, 'can't lose' type of goals associated to BoB's MAX campaign. BoB would either have to pull back or lose a couple of systems in the south. A significant loss of face for BoB either way. If the BoB coalition (they are not just BoB, they are not one super entity) is in the north, we'd have to shoot pos to try and turn their focus to get fleet battles. Else we would just be shooting pos. So, in either case, we would have to shoot pos. That's my theory, that and I think other than forum baiting, we're currently bored of each other.
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2008.11.04 15:30:00 - [27] Make this post when all GBC towers in E-O are dead. Until then, it's still a battleground, and one, might I add, that NC has lost a lot in today (2 doomsdays still don't equal up to todays losses on your side).
Eskalin Minmatar Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.11.04 15:34:00 - [28] sweet now people are making 1 man alliances to troll caod
Monkey Rat The Nietzian Way Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.04 15:37:00 - [29] Originally by: Proxay Make this post when all GBC towers in E-O are dead. Until then, it's still a battleground, and one, might I add, that NC has lost a lot in today (2 doomsdays still don't equal up to todays losses on your side). http://pix.nofrag.com/c/2/1/898a49bdc160c76ea5e8b055a6aee.jpg
Thimerion shadow and flame Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.04 15:39:00 - [30] Originally by: Monkey Rat Originally by: Proxay Make this post when all GBC towers in E-O are dead. Until then, it's still a battleground, and one, might I add, that NC has lost a lot in today (2 doomsdays still don't equal up to todays losses on your side). http://pix.nofrag.com/c/2/1/898a49bdc160c76ea5e8b055a6aee.jpg

Daniel zorg Caldari Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2008.11.04 15:41:00 - [31] Edited by: Daniel zorg on 04/11/2008 15:43:20 http://blade.myevehosting.com/killboard/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=39753 Still killing things at 1300 13 hours after that pic was taken ... try again please
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2008.11.04 15:44:00 - [32] Edited by: Proxay on 04/11/2008 15:44:37 Originally by: Monkey Rat Originally by: Proxay Make this post when all GBC towers in E-O are dead. Until then, it's still a battleground, and one, might I add, that NC has lost a lot in today (2 doomsdays still don't equal up to todays losses on your side). http://pix.nofrag.com/c/2/1/898a49bdc160c76ea5e8b055a6aee.jpg You're incorrect, as usual. Reposting second hand intel doesn't make you informed. If you're trying to look intelligent, go and look at an area yourself. We don't recruit anyone, go away.
Akoudoulos Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.04 16:29:00 - [33] Originally by: Monkey Rat Originally by: Fred0 Monkey Rat, why don't you tell us about Hydra instead? Not much to say really. My account is free (boot.ini compensation) so I decided to stay and see where Gashon took Hydra after the Tri invasion. Been docked in Jita recently waiting for our standings to be sorted out so I don't get shot at by the NC HEYYYY!!! why your account is free??? my pc got wtfpwd when the evil boot.ini blasted windows i didn't get any compensation!!! darn
Sasha Lyre Gallente Blood Music	Posted - 2008.11.04 16:31:00 - [34] Originally by: Proxay Edited by: Proxay on 04/11/2008 15:44:37 Originally by: Monkey Rat Originally by: Proxay Make this post when all GBC towers in E-O are dead. Until then, it's still a battleground, and one, might I add, that NC has lost a lot in today (2 doomsdays still don't equal up to todays losses on your side). http://pix.nofrag.com/c/2/1/898a49bdc160c76ea5e8b055a6aee.jpg You're incorrect, as usual. Reposting second hand intel doesn't make you informed. If you're trying to look intelligent, go and look at an area yourself. I can understand your anger my young internet spaceship companion. I would be as angry as you if I was a bob pet AND I was getting my head repeatedly kicked in Your Blood Goes to my Head and the Music Flows through my Veins
Monkey Rat The Nietzian Way Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.04 16:33:00 - [35] Originally by: Akoudoulos HEYYYY!!! why your account is free??? my pc got wtfpwd when the evil boot.ini blasted windows i didn't get any compensation!!! darn I sent a letter to CCP after the boot.ini fiasco ruined my computer. I asked for an Opus Luxury Yacht as compensation but they said they couldn't do that. They could, however, give me a years subscription.
RedSplat Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2008.11.04 16:33:00 - [36] http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=915080 hmmmm. Cynojammers.
Lorgoth Children of Gjallarhorn	Posted - 2008.11.04 16:36:00 - [37] Originally by: Monkey Rat With BoB retreating to M-O to lick their wounds and the NC mopping up all BoB poses in E-O, what will the next move be? The NC is unlikely to try and take down the titan protected cyno jammer in M-O and BoB have to go on the offensive to justify their MAX Damage manifesto. E-O and 15W are the obvious targets but with the NC consistently outperforming BoB in those systems will the focus move elsewhere? Also, why haven't GoonSwarm done a similar MAX campaign against BoB while BoB's cap fleet is busy in the north? You could call it something funny and set the same non-specific, 'can't lose' type of goals associated to BoB's MAX campaign. BoB would either have to pull back or lose a couple of systems in the south. A significant loss of face for BoB either way. dude, you are member of Hydra alliance... you know... a Hydra... and only by some weird galaxy mistake you are still... alive, you know. go master your large-shield-tanking archon's setup or something, mate. realy... please, do not start some pomp-a55 threads about NC achievements cause you aint part of it... you are hydra. Eve related signature below : IF... you want to be able to post on CAOD on your alt... - just join our lovely Corp (Children of Gjallarhorn) HQ at Mastakomon V - CB. cheers
Akoudoulos Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.04 16:38:00 - [38] Originally by: Monkey Rat Originally by: Akoudoulos HEYYYY!!! why your account is free??? my pc got wtfpwd when the evil boot.ini blasted windows i didn't get any compensation!!! darn I sent a letter to CCP after the boot.ini fiasco ruined my computer. I asked for an Opus Luxury Yacht as compensation but they said they couldn't do that. They could, however, give me a years subscription. Ahhh, well i am of the guys that go for a haircut and even if my hair after the job look like a monkeys bottom i still thank the guy for his ''excelent" result my loose heh back to the topic
Monkey Rat The Nietzian Way Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.04 16:39:00 - [39] Originally by: Lorgoth dude, you are member of Hydra alliance... you know... a Hydra... and only by some weird galaxy mistake you are still... alive, you know. go master your large-shield-tanking archon's setup or something, mate. realy... please, do not start some pomp-a55 threads about NC achievements cause you aint part of it... you are hydra. And you are...?
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2008.11.04 16:39:00 - [40] Originally by: Sasha Lyre I can understand your anger my young internet spaceship companion. I would be as angry as you if I was a bob pet AND I was getting my head repeatedly kicked in I take it you too didn't read my post. Do some research and you'll find out various things about alliances. Here's some help: http://blade.myevehosting.com/killboard/?a=home Blade. is doing fine in pvp, we have no general concerns...also I'd wager my age is more than yours. tl;dr RAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE We don't recruit anyone, go away.

InSession Minmatar Mafia Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.11.04 17:05:00 - [41] I heard the NC has plans to reinstall Hydra in Vale and let Hydra be the overlords of the NC. That's the NC's secret weapon to defeating BOB.
RedSplat Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2008.11.04 17:09:00 - [42] Originally by: InSession I heard the NC has plans to reinstall Hydra in Vale and let Hydra be the overlords of the NC. That's the NC's secret weapon to defeating BOB. So how long have Hydra been the secret overlords?
sakana North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.11.04 17:11:00 - [43] Originally by: Shadoo I read the post, and only thing I could think of was: holy **** -- is hydra still alive? quoting this guy cause he's in my corp/alliance.
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2008.11.04 17:13:00 - [44] Just thought I'd throw this out here. I've had some spies sitting in some Coalition/NC alliances for a while, even some pet ones, I must say the rules on your side of the fence are fairly terrible. Our arrangement is pvp, and live here. No restrictions on anything. Generally I find the NC/Coalition to say, "you have to pay this much, defend the area, leave when someone asks you to, can only anchor poses here...etc". It seems a lot more restrictive, and generally the conditions are worse, and much more crowded... Truth doesn't belong here, does it? We don't recruit anyone, go away.
Don ZOLA Caldari Omniscient Order Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.11.04 17:31:00 - [45] Originally by: Proxay Just thought I'd throw this out here. I've had some spies sitting in some Coalition/NC alliances for a while, even some pet ones, I must say the rules on your side of the fence are fairly terrible. Our arrangement is pvp, and live here. No restrictions on anything. Generally I find the NC/Coalition to say, "you have to pay this much, defend the area, leave when someone asks you to, can only anchor poses here...etc". It seems a lot more restrictive, and generally the conditions are worse, and much more crowded... Truth doesn't belong here, does it? so whats next, pets union to protect pets rights, you will surely need separate part of forum for pets talks aswell, there you can discuss who is "better" pet and who has better "pet conditions" :D
Omeega The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.11.04 17:37:00 - [46] Originally by: Monkey Rat Also, why haven't GoonSwarm done a similar MAX campaign against BoB while BoB's cap fleet is busy in the north? Because goonswarm only wants good fights« Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Schwermetall Bad Passion Sternhagel	Posted - 2008.11.04 17:37:00 - [47] Originally by: Proxay I've had some spies sitting in some Coalition/NC alliances for a while, even some pet ones, I must say the rules on your side of the fence are fairly terrible. I just imagined a discussion between BoB and NC-HC "Our Meatshields are better than yours". ______________________
Narciss Sevar Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.11.04 17:38:00 - [48] Originally by: Don ZOLA Originally by: Proxay Just thought I'd throw this out here. I've had some spies sitting in some Coalition/NC alliances for a while, even some pet ones, I must say the rules on your side of the fence are fairly terrible. Our arrangement is pvp, and live here. No restrictions on anything. Generally I find the NC/Coalition to say, "you have to pay this much, defend the area, leave when someone asks you to, can only anchor poses here...etc". It seems a lot more restrictive, and generally the conditions are worse, and much more crowded... Truth doesn't belong here, does it? so whats next, pets union to protect pets rights, you will surely need separate part of forum for pets talks aswell, there you can discuss who is "better" pet and who has better "pet conditions" :D Hey zola the guy is just looking out for his fellow pets, give the man a break.
TAKEMEOVER	Posted - 2008.11.04 17:45:00 - [49] Originally by: Schwermetall I just imagined a discussion between BoB and NC-HC "Our Meatshields are better than yours". Except all the NC meatshields have been torn down and now its just MM and Razor. Oh they still have to call in TCF and PL but whateva.
Schwermetall Bad Passion Sternhagel	Posted - 2008.11.04 17:59:00 - [50] Originally by: TAKEMEOVER Except all the NC meatshields have been torn down and now its just MM and Razor. Oh they still have to call in TCF and PL but whateva. Looking at the Killboards i see alliances like Majesta, Stella Polaris, Fallout and CORE still pretty much involved in the fights. But i guess you mean PURE and IRON.

Colonel Xaven Decadence. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.04 18:17:00 - [51] Originally by: InSession I heard the NC has plans to reinstall Hydra in Vale and let Hydra be the overlords of the NC. That's the NC's secret weapon to defeating BOB. No, I assume plans are to install Hydra as the overlords of bob. Their new home will be NOL. And I heard Black Hand is going to be pet of any NPC corp, which name I forgot.
BRooDJeRo Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.04 18:27:00 - [52] /me starts rick-rollin...
Ethen Bejorn Pestilent Industries Amalgamated	Posted - 2008.11.04 18:52:00 - [53] Originally by: TAKEMEOVER Originally by: Schwermetall I just imagined a discussion between BoB and NC-HC "Our Meatshields are better than yours". Except all the NC meatshields have been torn down and now its just MM and Razor. Oh they still have to call in TCF and PL but whateva. And Co2, Majesta Empire, Wildly Inappropriate, Bionic Dawn, and the list goes on and on and on.
Colonel Xaven Decadence. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.04 19:22:00 - [54] Originally by: Ethen Bejorn Originally by: TAKEMEOVER Except all the NC meatshields have been torn down and now its just MM and Razor. Oh they still have to call in TCF and PL but whateva. And Co2, Majesta Empire, Wildly Inappropriate, Bionic Dawn, and the list goes on and on and on. Your intel sucks. Proud member of RZR - Decadence.
Pattonator Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.11.04 19:39:00 - [55] Originally by: Monkey Rat Originally by: Fred0 Monkey Rat, why don't you tell us about Hydra instead? Not much to say really. My account is free (boot.ini compensation) so I decided to stay and see where Gashon took Hydra after the Tri invasion. Been docked in Jita recently waiting for our standings to be sorted out so I don't get shot at by the NC My boot.ini file got screwed as well but after a couple of days I got it figured out. Didn't know that could get one a free account.
Holy Lowlander Comply Or Die G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.11.04 19:45:00 - [56] nothing to see here .. move along...
Ace Frehley Minmatar The Movement	Posted - 2008.11.04 19:49:00 - [57] what what!?!?!? free account!?!?! I want one to, just cuze he has one!!!! signature is not EVE related, please change. ~WeatherMan
TimGascoigne The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.11.04 20:13:00 - [58] Originally by: Monkey Rat Also, why haven't GoonSwarm done a similar MAX campaign against BoB while BoB's cap fleet is busy in the north? what is a lot funnier is y has AAA not launched a campaign against BOB when BOBs caps are busy in the North?
General Windypops Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2008.11.04 20:15:00 - [59] Originally by: Monkey Rat . E-O and 15W are the obvious targets but with the NC consistently outperforming BoB in those systems will the focus move elsewhere? If NC are consistently outperforming BoB in 15W how come Windy's been flying round there in nothing more than an uncloaked t1 cruiser engaging in friendly banter with the locals for over a week? I keep trying to get the big boys to chase me and give me a probing but no luck so far :(
Ekram Riz Minmatar Wyland-Yutani Corporation	Posted - 2008.11.04 20:18:00 - [60] Originally by: TimGascoigne Originally by: Monkey Rat Also, why haven't GoonSwarm done a similar MAX campaign against BoB while BoB's cap fleet is busy in the north? what is a lot funnier is y has AAA not launched a campaign against BOB when BOBs caps are busy in the North? Why should they help North? Should they go attack BOB so you can carebear in peace? Is your bandwagon not big enough and you need more to jump on? Do you think that everyone in EVE should attack BOB since they bring fights? I guess fail people are fail....

Lorgoth Children of Gjallarhorn	Posted - 2008.11.04 20:22:00 - [61] Originally by: Monkey Rat Originally by: Lorgoth dude, you are member of Hydra alliance... you know... a Hydra... and only by some weird galaxy mistake you are still... alive, you know. go master your large-shield-tanking archon's setup or something, mate. realy... please, do not start some pomp-a55 threads about NC achievements cause you aint part of it... you are hydra. And you are...? ... a dude who does not start useless threads, mate. that's who i am. (i cant believe it... i'm actualy arguing with hydra alliance member. man, i dropped low. i tell you that.)
Puncher hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.11.04 20:45:00 - [62] Originally by: Don ZOLA Originally by: Proxay Just thought I'd throw this out here. I've had some spies sitting in some Coalition/NC alliances for a while, even some pet ones, I must say the rules on your side of the fence are fairly terrible. Our arrangement is pvp, and live here. No restrictions on anything. Generally I find the NC/Coalition to say, "you have to pay this much, defend the area, leave when someone asks you to, can only anchor poses here...etc". It seems a lot more restrictive, and generally the conditions are worse, and much more crowded... Truth doesn't belong here, does it? so whats next, pets union to protect pets rights, you will surely need separate part of forum for pets talks aswell, there you can discuss who is "better" pet and who has better "pet conditions" :D Quoting this so the ASPCA takers notice, don't forget the PETS!
Nooto Jagdkommando RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.04 21:03:00 - [63] failhydra. go defend ur space oh wai....
D'ceet Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.11.04 21:22:00 - [64] Originally by: Shadoo I read the post, and only thing I could think of was: holy **** -- is hydra still alive? /signed
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.04 22:16:00 - [65] GL Proxay
Scatim Helicon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.11.05 00:18:00 - [66] Originally by: Antoine Lefevre Btw how's sunglassesinspace? His tortoise went into hibernation again a few days back :3
fugazii Deep Space Productions	Posted - 2008.11.05 00:24:00 - [67] Ha, Hydra..the only alliance in Eve that could make Xetic look like a pvp juggernaut. Also, GS aren't creating a max-like campaign because they only have 2 options for war, reset a blue or trip at the 5yrd line again.
Pradege D'Hallur Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.11.05 00:27:00 - [68] Originally by: TimGascoigne Originally by: Monkey Rat Also, why haven't GoonSwarm done a similar MAX campaign against BoB while BoB's cap fleet is busy in the north? what is a lot funnier is y has AAA not launched a campaign against BOB when BOBs caps are busy in the North? Why should we?
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.11.05 00:57:00 - [69] Originally by: TimGascoigne Originally by: Monkey Rat Also, why haven't GoonSwarm done a similar MAX campaign against BoB while BoB's cap fleet is busy in the north? what is a lot funnier is y has AAA not launched a campaign against BOB when BOBs caps are busy in the North? The answer lies in World of Warcraft. - -
Shardrael Caldari Titan Industries Technology Team Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.11.05 03:50:00 - [70] Originally by: Shadoo I read the post, and only thing I could think of was: holy **** -- is hydra still alive? This.

Kushan Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness	Posted - 2008.11.05 04:09:00 - [71] Originally by: Monkey Rat With BoB retreating to M-O to lick their wounds and the NC mopping up all BoB poses in E-O, what will the next move be? The NC is unlikely to try and take down the titan protected cyno jammer in M-O and BoB have to go on the offensive to justify their MAX Damage manifesto. E-O and 15W are the obvious targets but with the NC consistently outperforming BoB in those systems will the focus move elsewhere? Also, why haven't GoonSwarm done a similar MAX campaign against BoB while BoB's cap fleet is busy in the north? You could call it something funny and set the same non-specific, 'can't lose' type of goals associated to BoB's MAX campaign. BoB would either have to pull back or lose a couple of systems in the south. A significant loss of face for BoB either way. Unsurprisingly, Hydra fails as much at posting as they fail at holding their own space.
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2008.11.05 05:10:00 - [72] Originally by: Pradege D'Hallur Originally by: TimGascoigne Originally by: Monkey Rat Also, why haven't GoonSwarm done a similar MAX campaign against BoB while BoB's cap fleet is busy in the north? what is a lot funnier is y has AAA not launched a campaign against BOB when BOBs caps are busy in the North? Why should we? wouldnt that be fun after two not-so-challenging wars against KOS and IAC? no offense - putting the gist back into logistics
Holy Lowlander Comply Or Die G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.11.05 05:53:00 - [73] Originally by: Roemy Schneider Originally by: Pradege D'Hallur Originally by: TimGascoigne Originally by: Monkey Rat Also, why haven't GoonSwarm done a similar MAX campaign against BoB while BoB's cap fleet is busy in the north? what is a lot funnier is y has AAA not launched a campaign against BOB when BOBs caps are busy in the North? Why should we? wouldnt that be fun after two not-so-challenging wars against KOS and IAC? no offense I don't know what you find funny , but with the only thing in delve being pos' and some lost members ? ... whats the fun of invading it. When they'd invade .. they'd just clonejump and kick their asses tbh.
fugazii Deep Space Productions	Posted - 2008.11.05 06:19:00 - [74] Originally by: Roemy Schneider Originally by: Pradege D'Hallur Originally by: TimGascoigne Originally by: Monkey Rat Also, why haven't GoonSwarm done a similar MAX campaign against BoB while BoB's cap fleet is busy in the north? what is a lot funnier is y has AAA not launched a campaign against BOB when BOBs caps are busy in the North? Why should we? wouldnt that be fun after two not-so-challenging wars against KOS and IAC? no offense Not-so-challenging? I'll agree with you on KOS, but didn't it take AAA the better part of a year to conquer IAC's 1 region? you see Iron does not leech off a suger daddy (bob) to make its way through eve or define itself as an entity. -Gneeznow 2008.08.27
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2008.11.05 07:50:00 - [75] Originally by: Fred0 GL Proxay I am an insignificant leader of a small 0.0 alliance. GO EASY ON ME? lol gf for last few days. We don't recruit anyone, go away.
Veldya Guristari Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2008.11.05 08:03:00 - [76] Originally by: General Windypops If NC are consistently outperforming BoB in 15W how come Windy's been flying round there in nothing more than an uncloaked t1 cruiser engaging in friendly banter with the locals for over a week? I keep trying to get the big boys to chase me and give me a probing but no luck so far :( If you want attention then try shooting at someone.
Khaeldon Golden Clover Astrogeologists	Posted - 2008.11.05 08:28:00 - [77] Originally by: fugazii Not-so-challenging? I'll agree with you on KOS, but didn't it take AAA the better part of a year to conquer IAC's 1 region? AAA took their sweet time doing it... not a indication of AAA's strength. I got the impression AAA was bidding their time giving IAC a chance to to sort their stuff out and the eventually grew bored when that didn't happen and did the mercy kill as Evil Thug put it a long time ago
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2008.11.05 08:37:00 - [78] or... goons reset IAC so -A- had to take that space before them instead of keeping some pew-pew-pets </spin> - putting the gist back into logistics
King Leopold Congo Free State	Posted - 2008.11.05 11:54:00 - [79] It's a russian thang.. you wouldn't understand.
Rakessh Arachnea Phoenix Battalion Bionic Dawn	Posted - 2008.11.05 13:09:00 - [80] Originally by: Ethen Bejorn Originally by: TAKEMEOVER Except all the NC meatshields have been torn down and now its just MM and Razor. Oh they still have to call in TCF and PL but whateva. And Co2, Majesta Empire, Wildly Inappropriate, Bionic Dawn, and the list goes on and on and on. <lies> Confirmed, being a NC "pet" is terrible, they even doomsday us "pets" for kicks and laughs Bionic Dawn should never have become an NC pet. </lies> btw, your intel sucks :P CEO Arachnea Phoenix Battalion

Llondon Hilton Minmatar Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.11.05 15:48:00 - [81] Originally by: Nooto failhydra. go defend ur space oh wai.... The NC stoops to new lows every day when I see this sort of thing. Did Hydra have the same help from you MM is getting? Did Hydra have Goons, TCF and PL helping them? Bottom line is not all Northern Coalition were ever created equal, "friends" as it's spun now is a joke. What is truly left of the NC? How would Razor and MM fare if left alone to defend their own space without help from the south? There are too many similar comments like this to even buy disclaimers from the rare diplomat stepping in to say "these are not our views". ~LH~ ---<---<-{@
Azure Black Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.11.05 15:59:00 - [82] Originally by: Proxay Originally by: Fred0 GL Proxay I am an insignificant leader of a small 0.0 alliance. GO EASY ON ME? lol gf for last few days. It's been a great fight. Apparantly someone gave out the password to your POS on TS and you guys got DD though. You know what you are doing
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2008.11.05 16:14:00 - [83] Originally by: Azure Black Originally by: Proxay Originally by: Fred0 GL Proxay I am an insignificant leader of a small 0.0 alliance. GO EASY ON ME? lol gf for last few days. It's been a great fight. Apparantly someone gave out the password to your POS on TS and you guys got DD though. You know what you are doing Any compliments I'll take, thanks mate :) We don't recruit anyone, go away.
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.05 16:53:00 - [84] Edited by: Fred0 on 05/11/2008 16:56:58 Originally by: Llondon Hilton Did Hydra have the same help from you MM is getting? Did Hydra have Goons, TCF and PL helping them? This is an interesting question that actually has a not very dangerious answer to give. 1. No they didn't have the same support. A few of our allies have died more or less alone and that sucks. It's something we ofcourse regret. It always sucks when your allies fail but we can't be everywhere all the time. 2. No a few alliances died while we didn't have TCF, Goons, PL support. They, just as RZR, RAWR, MH, Pure., Iron etc. are their own entities that make their own decisions. It's obviously completely up to TCF/PL etc. what they want to do and who they want to help. We're ever grateful for their support right now. 2b. And this is how it works inside the whole NC. We talk among eachother and decide on a common strategy. It's a place for relatively small alliances to play endgame EVE among equals, we're the only entity of it's sort today imho. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
Holy Lowlander Comply Or Die G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.11.05 16:58:00 - [85] Originally by: Fred0 Edited by: Fred0 on 05/11/2008 16:56:58 Originally by: Llondon Hilton Did Hydra have the same help from you MM is getting? Did Hydra have Goons, TCF and PL helping them? This is an interesting question that actually has a not very dangerious answer to give. 1. No they didn't have the same support. A few of our allies have died more or less alone and that sucks. It's something we ofcourse regret. It always sucks when your allies fail but we can't be everywhere all the time. 2. No a few alliances died while we didn't have TCF, Goons, PL support. They, just as RZR, RAWR, MH, Pure., Iron etc. are their own entities that make their own decisions. It's obviously completely up to TCF/PL etc. what they want to do and who they want to help. We're ever grateful for their support right now. 2b. And this is how it works inside the whole NC. We talk among eachother and decide on a common strategy. It's a place for relatively small alliances to play endgame EVE among equals, we're the only entity of it's sort today imho. I find point 2b conflicting with point 1 .....
TheAdj Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.11.05 17:21:00 - [86] Originally by: Monkey Rat Originally by: Shadoo I read the post, and only thing I could think of was: holy **** -- is hydra still alive? I wish you guys had come along sooner though. Why? We probably would have killed you too. ----------------
Darth Syphils Amarr Noshikkan	Posted - 2008.11.05 21:49:00 - [87] Edited by: Darth Syphils on 05/11/2008 21:50:34 Originally by: Pattonator Originally by: Monkey Rat Originally by: Fred0 Monkey Rat, why don't you tell us about Hydra instead? Not much to say really. My account is free (boot.ini compensation) so I decided to stay and see where Gashon took Hydra after the Tri invasion. Been docked in Jita recently waiting for our standings to be sorted out so I don't get shot at by the NC My boot.ini file got screwed as well but after a couple of days I got it figured out. Didn't know that could get one a free account. Because you have to whine to CCP like the NC alts whine on CAOD.
Ruyter principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.11.06 15:18:00 - [88] Edited by: Ruyter on 06/11/2008 15:20:05 Originally by: Khaeldon Originally by: fugazii Not-so-challenging? I'll agree with you on KOS, but didn't it take AAA the better part of a year to conquer IAC's 1 region? AAA took their sweet time doing it... not a indication of AAA's strength. I got the impression AAA was bidding their time giving IAC a chance to to sort their stuff out and the eventually grew bored when that didn't happen and did the mercy kill as Evil Thug put it a long time ago yeah like you we're there. Anyways, we could have crushed -a- but then ze goons put us to red, and that was just too much. See; being betrayed by one ally is bad enough, but being betrayed by an other ally was just too much for most of the old IAC nubcakes, they mostly joined some BoB Pet group/alliance, the cool kids joined the NC Only the most loyal and awesome guy's (moi) stayed behind. /burps And yeah -A- wont attack BoB, cuz they have a Moon NoN Agression Agreement, truelly Againt All Authority style btw Evil Nub is a women in rl , and ugly too
Orree Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.11.06 15:36:00 - [89] Originally by: Llondon Hilton Originally by: Nooto failhydra. go defend ur space oh wai.... The NC stoops to new lows every day when I see this sort of thing. Did Hydra have the same help from you MM is getting? Did Hydra have Goons, TCF and PL helping them? Bottom line is not all Northern Coalition were ever created equal, "friends" as it's spun now is a joke. What is truly left of the NC? How would Razor and MM fare if left alone to defend their own space without help from the south? There are too many similar comments like this to even buy disclaimers from the rare diplomat stepping in to say "these are not our views". No..that pilot stoops to a "new low" by making that crappy post. The OP is a crappy post. There are so many crappy posts in this thread, I hardly know where to start. This thread has nothing to do with official NC views on anything. "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
Xailz Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.11.06 16:00:00 - [90] Originally by: Machine Delta Originally by: Monkey Rat With BoB retreating to M-O to lick their wounds and the NC mopping up all BoB poses in E-O, what will the next move be? The NC is unlikely to try and take down the titan protected cyno jammer in M-O and BoB have to go on the offensive to justify their MAX Damage manifesto. E-O and 15W are the obvious targets but with the NC consistently outperforming BoB in those systems will the focus move elsewhere? Also, why haven't GoonSwarm done a similar MAX campaign against BoB while BoB's cap fleet is busy in the north? You could call it something funny and set the same non-specific, 'can't lose' type of goals associated to BoB's MAX campaign. BoB would either have to pull back or lose a couple of systems in the south. A significant loss of face for BoB either way. We were soundly defeated in Delve and have been falling apart ever since. Don't you read CAOD? Trolling with the truth? Advanced. ------ I came, i saw, i posted **** ITT.

Gumpy Nighthawk Amarr Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.06 16:34:00 - [91] Edited by: Gumpy Nighthawk on 06/11/2008 16:34:50 Edited by: Gumpy Nighthawk on 06/11/2008 16:34:33 Originally by: Darth Syphils Edited by: Darth Syphils on 05/11/2008 21:50:34 Originally by: Fred0 ... Quote: Because you have to whine to CCP like the NC alts whine on CAOD. Says the GBC alt Signature Locked. Please refrain from amending a moderated warning. Navigator
halp me THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2008.11.06 19:46:00 - [92] Originally by: Llondon Hilton Originally by: Nooto failhydra. go defend ur space oh wai.... The NC stoops to new lows every day when I see this sort of thing. Did Hydra have the same help from you MM is getting? Did Hydra have Goons, TCF and PL helping them? Bottom line is not all Northern Coalition were ever created equal, "friends" as it's spun now is a joke. What is truly left of the NC? How would Razor and MM fare if left alone to defend their own space without help from the south? There are too many similar comments like this to even buy disclaimers from the rare diplomat stepping in to say "these are not our views". I may not be NC but even I could tell from a mile away hydra was a pet.... trying to spin otherwise ia desperate and poorly thought out attempt at a semi intelligent troll you sir are fail
Cheffffffe Gallente Anti Behemoth Shipyards	Posted - 2008.11.07 01:05:00 - [93] Originally by: Llondon Hilton Originally by: Nooto failhydra. go defend ur space oh wai.... The NC stoops to new lows every day when I see this sort of thing. Did Hydra have the same help from you MM is getting? Did Hydra have Goons, TCF and PL helping them? Bottom line is not all Northern Coalition were ever created equal, "friends" as it's spun now is a joke. What is truly left of the NC? How would Razor and MM fare if left alone to defend their own space without help from the south? There are too many similar comments like this to even buy disclaimers from the rare diplomat stepping in to say "these are not our views". So what would BoB have achieved in the north without: X13 Alliance Interdiction Blade. Skunk-Works BeachBoys HUN Reloaded R.U.R. Pupule 'Ohana Frontal Impact The Five Southern Cross Alliance Axiom Empire Executive Outcomes G00DFELLAS The Church Warped Mining Confederation of Independent Corporations T e r c i o s DeaDSpace Coalition andwhateverothernapallianceicantrember ? BoB alone would have done nothing at all in Tribute and the only reason they are still in the north is the throw-in of even more pets. pets. pets.
FubarSF Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.11.07 01:14:00 - [94] Originally by: Cheffffffe Originally by: Llondon Hilton Originally by: Nooto failhydra. go defend ur space oh wai.... The NC stoops to new lows every day when I see this sort of thing. Did Hydra have the same help from you MM is getting? Did Hydra have Goons, TCF and PL helping them? Bottom line is not all Northern Coalition were ever created equal, "friends" as it's spun now is a joke. What is truly left of the NC? How would Razor and MM fare if left alone to defend their own space without help from the south? There are too many similar comments like this to even buy disclaimers from the rare diplomat stepping in to say "these are not our views". So what would BoB have achieved in the north without: X13 Alliance Interdiction Blade. Skunk-Works BeachBoys HUN Reloaded R.U.R. Pupule 'Ohana Frontal Impact The Five Southern Cross Alliance Axiom Empire Executive Outcomes G00DFELLAS The Church Warped Mining Confederation of Independent Corporations T e r c i o s DeaDSpace Coalition andwhateverothernapallianceicantrember ? BoB alone would have done nothing at all in Tribute and the only reason they are still in the north is the throw-in of even more pets. pets. pets. You don't get MAX, do you ? sig nerfed ;/
Vaustrien Caldari The Greater Goon	Posted - 2008.11.07 01:31:00 - [95] Originally by: Cheffffffe Originally by: Llondon Hilton Originally by: Nooto failhydra. go defend ur space oh wai.... The NC stoops to new lows every day when I see this sort of thing. Did Hydra have the same help from you MM is getting? Did Hydra have Goons, TCF and PL helping them? Bottom line is not all Northern Coalition were ever created equal, "friends" as it's spun now is a joke. What is truly left of the NC? How would Razor and MM fare if left alone to defend their own space without help from the south? There are too many similar comments like this to even buy disclaimers from the rare diplomat stepping in to say "these are not our views". So what would BoB have achieved in the north without: X13 Alliance Interdiction Blade. Skunk-Works BeachBoys HUN Reloaded R.U.R. Pupule 'Ohana Frontal Impact The Five Southern Cross Alliance Axiom Empire Executive Outcomes G00DFELLAS The Church Warped Mining Confederation of Independent Corporations T e r c i o s DeaDSpace Coalition andwhateverothernapallianceicantrember ? BoB alone would have done nothing at all in Tribute and the only reason they are still in the north is the throw-in of even more pets. pets. pets. Not to mention that BOB itself absorbed a ton of people from its failed pets.
Dathremar The Maverick Navy Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.11.07 01:31:00 - [96] Originally by: Cheffffffe Originally by: Llondon Hilton Originally by: Nooto failhydra. go defend ur space oh wai.... The NC stoops to new lows every day when I see this sort of thing. Did Hydra have the same help from you MM is getting? Did Hydra have Goons, TCF and PL helping them? Bottom line is not all Northern Coalition were ever created equal, "friends" as it's spun now is a joke. What is truly left of the NC? How would Razor and MM fare if left alone to defend their own space without help from the south? There are too many similar comments like this to even buy disclaimers from the rare diplomat stepping in to say "these are not our views". So what would BoB have achieved in the north without: X13 Alliance Interdiction Blade. Skunk-Works BeachBoys HUN Reloaded R.U.R. Pupule 'Ohana Frontal Impact The Five Southern Cross Alliance Axiom Empire Executive Outcomes G00DFELLAS The Church Warped Mining Confederation of Independent Corporations T e r c i o s DeaDSpace Coalition andwhateverothernapallianceicantrember ? BoB alone would have done nothing at all in Tribute and the only reason they are still in the north is the throw-in of even more pets. pets. pets. I'm probably going to get chewed out for posting but I feel it needs to be said. I love these posts because of how completely wrong they are. I don't want to come off sounding like these groups haven't done anything to help. Most of us have put in our time and effort into this campaign. Exe and Axe have really poured a lot of resources into it and should be commended for it. However, to somehow say that BoB is using massive amounts of outside help to achieve its goals is just plain wrong. Have you looked at any killmails? Do your spies not keep tally on how many are in fleets? Who do you think is doing the most work out of us all. BoB for major fleet fights are always outnumbering their "pets". They are doing it all and could probably do the whole campaign on their own. They don't necessarily need us, but us smaller alliances sure need BoB. To even compare BoB's nap list to the Norths is just plain nuts. I feel it almost a complement that you consider us to be the same strength as, TCF, PL, Razor and the various other pets that you guys have. Right now the fight is between 1 super power and it's smaller allies vs 3 to 4 powers and their smaller allies. Not to mention that nearly half of that list is wrong or the alliances are so small that they can only bring a few members at a time.
Mistress Suffering Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2008.11.07 02:09:00 - [97] The simple fact that neither side completely outnumbers the other makes it clear that both NAPlists are pretty similar. Whether you've got 5 alliances of 1000 or 2 of 2500 NAP'd up, the end result is the same amount of NAPpage. Even more to the point, at the end of the day its all about how many each side can effectively put in the field. The advantage to being able to do it with a smaller number of distinct groups is better C&C. BoB usually benefits there, while the NC has to struggle with larger coordination. Both sides are wasting bandwidth complaining about it. Shoot people.
KOTH Fluf Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.11.07 07:15:00 - [98] You dont need spies to find the numbers. Just go to the Northern Coalition killboard to the battles section and each battle shows the alliance and corp numbers. RAWRS killboard has those features too. Its Tribute and Morsus Mihi who are under attack, and they are consistanly fielding the largest numbers. As far as C&C Mistress, I would have to disagree with you that BOB has the advantage there as if you look at the battle reports from say, Monday this week in E-0, the NC had fewer entities and have had better coordination in the last several weeks. TCF/KIA coming over to help on major ops when they can is the only C&C problems, and to be honest they are very few. BOB had to get Goodfellas into help this week, as their numbers have been dropping for the last few weeks from the 650 support they brought in for the beginning of Max in July. Too bad its not just BOB vs Morsus Mihi. Now that would be fight. Fluf CEO Shiva Morsus Mihi
Helen coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.11.07 07:44:00 - [99] Originally by: KOTH Fluf You dont need spies to find the numbers. Just go to the Northern Coalition killboard to the battles section and each battle shows the alliance and corp numbers. RAWRS killboard has those features too. Its Tribute and Morsus Mihi who are under attack, and they are consistanly fielding the largest numbers. As far as C&C Mistress, I would have to disagree with you that BOB has the advantage there as if you look at the battle reports from say, Monday this week in E-0, the NC had fewer entities and have had better coordination in the last several weeks. TCF/KIA coming over to help on major ops when they can is the only C&C problems, and to be honest they are very few. BOB had to get Goodfellas into help this week, as their numbers have been dropping for the last few weeks from the 650 support they brought in for the beginning of Max in July. Too bad its not just BOB vs Morsus Mihi. Now that would be fight. So mistress was right then about C&C that with a smaller number of distinct alliances you have better results, if what your saying is true fluf then your amount of alliances dropping has increased your effectiveness going by what your saying.
Zeveron Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.11.07 07:51:00 - [100] Quote: Too bad its not just BOB vs Morsus Mihi. Now that would be fight. Your past prooved the oposite. Insteed to go 1 vs 1 you napped every north entity + drone regions to kill TRI and Insurgency. Let say BoB wasnt there. The hole NC blob + KIA + TCF would have attack TRI and GODS to take them out so some fail alliances like IRON, PURE, HYDRA take back their space and be your pets. So stop complain and fight with/vs the blobs. Its your choise. Thats the way you fought in the past, that gona be your way of fighting in the future ________________________________________________

Colonel Xaven Decadence. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.07 10:45:00 - [101] Originally by: Zeveron Quote: Too bad its not just BOB vs Morsus Mihi. Now that would be fight. Let say BoB wasnt there. The hole NC blob + KIA + TCF would have attack TRI and GODS to take them out so some fail alliances like IRON, PURE, HYDRA take back their space and be your pets. So you assume if Bob+pets wasn't there Tri v2 and Gods would have taken the space on their own? Furthermore I doubt that kia, tcf and many others wouldn't participate if Bob wasn't here. My 2 cents. Additionally there is no "pet system" in the NC. No NC alliance is a puppet of another. Proud member of RZR - Decadence.
Zeveron Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.11.07 10:54:00 - [102] Originally by: Colonel Xaven Originally by: Zeveron Quote: Too bad its not just BOB vs Morsus Mihi. Now that would be fight. Let say BoB wasnt there. The hole NC blob + KIA + TCF would have attack TRI and GODS to take them out so some fail alliances like IRON, PURE, HYDRA take back their space and be your pets. So you assume if Bob+pets wasn't there Tri v2 and Gods would have taken the space on their own? Furthermore I doubt that kia, tcf and many others wouldn't participate if Bob wasn't here. My 2 cents. Additionally there is no "pet system" in the NC. No NC alliance is a puppet of another. your past speaks for you. Its not an assumption, its a fact. And yes I belive GODS and TRI would have taken the space w/o bob beeing there, if they fought hydr, pure and iron and not the whole north + whatever else is on the field atm ________________________________________________
Schwermetall Bad Passion Sternhagel	Posted - 2008.11.07 11:14:00 - [103] Originally by: Helen ...if what your saying is true fluf then your amount of alliances dropping has increased your effectiveness going by what your saying. So thats the reason why BoB gets slapped around lately after the Max Campaign started so splendidly ^^ ______________________
Katherine Marx Muff Diving	Posted - 2008.11.07 11:15:00 - [104] HEY GUYS! I have a great idea! Let's go attack the north, take deklein, goto tribute, get our asses handed to us, and then go post on the forums about how super ridiculous the NC is for having friends and defending their space! We won't look like jack asses I promise! I mean come on, we are attacking with 350 capitals and 600 support. Not like we are blobbing or anything. Not like we have a blue list as long as Maverick's Johnson (Top Gun, long and distinguished). Maybe people will believe us when we say we are still the best and the N.Y. Times will post a huge article about it.. right next to Barack Obama's victory procession.
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2008.11.07 11:16:00 - [105] Originally by: Cheffffffe Long list of allies Being quite honest, most of the entities there will field between 2-10 maybe 15 people, with EXE/AXE/WARPED being the exception, giving max fleets a larger quantity of people turning out. Bob still, by and large(Read: most the time), outnumbers in fleets all the allies. We don't recruit anyone, go away.
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2008.11.07 11:19:00 - [106] Originally by: Katherine Marx HEY GUYS! I have a great idea! Let's go attack the north, take deklein, goto tribute, get our asses handed to us, and then go post on the forums about how super ridiculous the NC is for having friends and defending their space! We won't look like jack asses I promise! I mean come on, we are attacking with 350 capitals and 600 support. Not like we are blobbing or anything. Not like we have a blue list as long as Maverick's Johnson (Top Gun, long and distinguished). Maybe people will believe us when we say we are still the best and the N.Y. Times will post a huge article about it.. right next to Barack Obama's victory procession. I can do this too: HEY GUYS, lets get a rediculous amount of allies, go attack bob, push to delve, try to take nol, get our asses handed to us, then proclaim Cyno jammers and titans are overpowered. See, I can play this game too, and it's the exact same **** that your friends type out. We don't recruit anyone, go away.
Katherine Marx Muff Diving	Posted - 2008.11.07 11:26:00 - [107] Originally by: Proxay I can do this too: HEY GUYS, lets get a rediculous amount of allies, go attack bob, take multiple regions push to delve, try to take nol, get bored from owning BOB, then wait for a weak attempt at retaliation and own them again See, I can play this game too, and it's the exact same **** that your friends type out. fixed
Goose Hypocrisy The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.11.07 11:35:00 - [108] Originally by: Helen So mistress was right then about C&C that with a smaller number of distinct alliances you have better results, if what your saying is true fluf then your amount of alliances dropping has increased your effectiveness going by what your saying. It doesn't surprise much, the GBC is having the same problem of the coalition in Delve, albeit on a different scale. While BoB is indeed BoB and sports a stamina and dedication, coupled with numbers, that no one else can match, their allies are far less battle hardened. Defending is also a lot easier than attacking, and all those that reaped hundreds of kills in Delve are now stunned by the necessary losses you need to take when you are attacking. In the end you see that alliances with great numbers bring one caracal and two ceptors in fleet, helping very little, and when it comes down to capital partecipation the BoB/GBC ratio almost becomes embarassing. So, like in Delve, the numbers on paper mean little when you can't convince your allies to log in, and with the current POS mechanics and multi-alliance federations, there is little you can do without numbers. However, like in Delve, the NAP lists still make a great propaganda tool and you can't ignore the fact that, on paper, the GBC vastly outnumbers the NC. -clp sig updated yo
General Windypops Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2008.11.07 11:51:00 - [109] Originally by: Goose Hypocrisy Originally by: Helen So mistress was right then about C&C that with a smaller number of distinct alliances you have better results, if what your saying is true fluf then your amount of alliances dropping has increased your effectiveness going by what your saying. It doesn't surprise much, the GBC is having the same problem of the coalition in Delve, albeit on a different scale. While BoB is indeed BoB and sports a stamina and dedication, coupled with numbers, that no one else can match, their allies are far less battle hardened. Defending is also a lot easier than attacking, and all those that reaped hundreds of kills in Delve are now stunned by the necessary losses you need to take when you are attacking. In the end you see that alliances with great numbers bring one caracal and two ceptors in fleet, helping very little, and when it comes down to capital partecipation the BoB/GBC ratio almost becomes embarassing. So, like in Delve, the numbers on paper mean little when you can't convince your allies to log in, and with the current POS mechanics and multi-alliance federations, there is little you can do without numbers. However, like in Delve, the NAP lists still make a great propaganda tool and you can't ignore the fact that, on paper, the GBC vastly outnumbers the NC. Hang on a sec, one minute you're saying that the GBC is vast with thousands of allies doubling or even tripling BoB's own forces. The next your saying that BoB's allies are fading away and losing interest? Stick to one line memes, clippylippis. They're not very funny, but least you can't get them wrong.
Thimerion shadow and flame Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.07 12:10:00 - [110] Originally by: General Windypops Originally by: Goose Hypocrisy Originally by: Helen Hang on a sec, one minute you're saying that the GBC is vast with thousands of allies doubling or even tripling BoB's own forces. The next your saying that BoB's allies are fading away and losing interest? Stick to one line memes, clippylippis. They're not very funny, but least you can't get them wrong. If you bothered to read it properly you would have realised that the point that was being made was that even though the sum of GBC alliance members vastly outweighs that of the NC alliance's NC fleets still somehow managed to vastly outnumber GBC's Personally I think it may have something to do with the horrific losses GBC are taking at the hands of these so called care bears. Oh and what happened to all this talk of BoBÆs super-capp kill ratio against the NC that they bragged so much about? In all seriousness though, max has ground to a halt and in doing so it has by all definitions failed, the high end moons that have been acquired along the way are now no longer able to fund all the losses being taken and BoB have resorted to bunkering up in M-O under there cyno jammer. Props to \GBC though for providing EVE with the most destructive 3 months it has probably ever seen and for even just in wiping our IRON accomplishing some very impressive victories but at the end of the day MM anf RZR proved just that little to big and well organised even for BoB. My 2 cents, rage/troll/flame away.

Diehard Si Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.11.07 12:52:00 - [111] Edited by: Diehard Si on 07/11/2008 12:52:57 Originally by: Colonel Xaven Originally by: Zeveron Quote: Too bad its not just BOB vs Morsus Mihi. Now that would be fight. Let say BoB wasnt there. The hole NC blob + KIA + TCF would have attack TRI and GODS to take them out so some fail alliances like IRON, PURE, HYDRA take back their space and be your pets. So you assume if Bob+pets wasn't there Tri v2 and Gods would have taken the space on their own? Furthermore I doubt that kia, tcf and many others wouldn't participate if Bob wasn't here. My 2 cents. Additionally there is no "pet system" in the NC. No NC alliance is a puppet of another. Can't speak for Tri, only Gods. If BOB wasn't in the north, Gods could have taken on Iron and Pure collectively and won. We couldn't of taken on the whole NC due to sheer cap numbers. I think any Gods member would agree with me on this. However BOB being there, meant that the big boys ( Rzr and MM ) were obviously busy. This allowed to us to attack the alliances 1 against 1, and pick them off. Ok we took our time, but as an alliance was new to pos warfare. In short, we saw an opportunity, and took it. Yes we know if BOB and Tri get pulled out of the north we're going to have a hell of a lot on our plate. But we love a fight, and will go wherever the fights are. If they come to us then great. As it is, we've gone to the fight now, sorted GBC standings again and getting people to the front line donw in tribute. I think our fate will probably be decided there.
Dark Angelete Gallente Dark Angel Battalion	Posted - 2008.11.07 12:55:00 - [112] Originally by: Katherine Marx our alts are best at rage quiting and shiet posting.rzr for the mad props i concur.
Dark Angelete Gallente Dark Angel Battalion	Posted - 2008.11.07 13:00:00 - [113] Edited by: Dark Angelete on 07/11/2008 13:02:29 Originally by: Goose Hypocrisy GBC vastly outnumbers the NC. lawl at your propaganda attempts.stick to your normal forum burns at least you seem decent at them. im honestly just surprised that shamiz bite on goonies and ex bitter tris attempts at manipulating pl as an alliance to do their bidding and move north.pvp is pvp and maybe thats what pl wanted to do all along.but the way after these guys joined and pushed the alliance north was easy to see weeks in advance even by the most clueless people.
General Windypops Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2008.11.07 14:19:00 - [114] Originally by: "General Windypops" Stick to one line memes, clippylippis. They're not very funny, but least you can't get them wrong Originally by: Dark Angelete stick to your normal forum burns at least you seem decent at them. Hey! Get your own crushing putdowns, and stop nicking mine!
Margie O'Neill	Posted - 2008.11.07 14:27:00 - [115] Originally by: Zeveron Its your choise Hey, I heard you left the shield in M-O. Congrats!
Marlon Shakespeare Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2008.11.07 14:28:00 - [116] Originally by: Diehard Si If BOB wasn't in the north, Gods could have taken on Iron and Pure collectively and won. We couldn't of taken on the whole NC due to sheer cap numbers. I think any Gods member would agree with me on this. LOL.
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.07 16:52:00 - [117] Originally by: Diehard Si If BOB wasn't in the north, Gods could have taken on Iron and Pure collectively and won. No you couldn't. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.11.07 16:55:00 - [118] Originally by: Fred0 Originally by: Diehard Si If BOB wasn't in the north, Gods could have taken on Iron and Pure collectively and won. No you couldn't. This is not an arguement yes it is no it isn't -- Originally by: CCP Oveur Just donæt forget the reach-around.
C4w3 Minmatar Corp 1 Allstars	Posted - 2008.11.07 16:59:00 - [119] Friday --> Gooooo monkey posters go0o0oo ANGRY INTERNET GAMING MOBS IRL are bad MKAY!
Diehard Si Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.11.07 17:06:00 - [120] Originally by: Fred0 Originally by: Diehard Si If BOB wasn't in the north, Gods could have taken on Iron and Pure collectively and won. No you couldn't. We could and could of fairly easily. Its not our fault the allainces didn't help each other out, it would of made it more interesting but would of been the same result. But anyway, i can't be bothered arguing over ifs and buts, and this thread isn't about Gods anyway.

General Windypops Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2008.11.07 17:24:00 - [121] Originally by: Diehard Si Originally by: Fred0 Originally by: Diehard Si If BOB wasn't in the north, Gods could have taken on Iron and Pure collectively and won. No you couldn't. We could and could of fairly easily. Its not our fault the allainces didn't help each other out, it would of made it more interesting but would of been the same result. But anyway, i can't be bothered arguing over ifs and buts, and this thread isn't about Gods anyway. Yes it is.
Skystar Gallente Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.11.07 17:31:00 - [122] Originally by: Diehard Si However BOB being there, meant that the big boys ( Rzr and MM ) were obviously busy. This allowed to us to attack the alliances 1 against 1, and pick them off. Ok we took our time, but as an alliance was new to pos warfare. You just mopped up what was left of IRON after BOB broke their resistance ... dont claim victories you hardly had any particpation in -------------------------------------------- Whom the gods love, dies young!
Rhaegor Stormborn Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.11.07 17:45:00 - [123] Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 07/11/2008 17:45:42 Originally by: Goose Hypocrisy While BoB is indeed BoB and sports a stamina and dedication, coupled with numbers, that no one else can match, their allies are far less battle hardened. Says who?
General Windypops Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2008.11.07 17:49:00 - [124] Edited by: General Windypops on 07/11/2008 17:49:04 Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 07/11/2008 17:45:42 Originally by: Goose Hypocrisy While BoB is indeed BoB and sports a stamina and dedication, coupled with numbers, that no one else can match, their allies are far less battle hardened. Says who? I'm not sure, but I think he's talking about forum warfare, rather than the ingame type.
Spyra Gryra Cruoris Seraphim	Posted - 2008.11.07 18:51:00 - [125] Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 07/11/2008 17:45:42 Originally by: Goose Hypocrisy While BoB is indeed BoB and sports a stamina and dedication, coupled with numbers, that no one else can match, their allies are far less battle hardened. Says who? Rhaegor used to be the CEO of the mighty VC, so he's pretty battle hardened if you ask me. Massive respect to you Rhaegor, getting back in the game after what happened you and the isk buying thing. Lesser people would have folded o7
Narciss Sevar Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.11.07 20:03:00 - [126] Originally by: Spyra Gryra Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 07/11/2008 17:45:42 Originally by: Goose Hypocrisy While BoB is indeed BoB and sports a stamina and dedication, coupled with numbers, that no one else can match, their allies are far less battle hardened. Says who? Rhaegor used to be the CEO of the mighty VC, so he's pretty battle hardened if you ask me. Massive respect to you Rhaegor, getting back in the game after what happened you and the isk buying thing. Lesser people would have folded o7 I doubt he could afford to fold, with that much money involved his wife would probably of divorced him if he told her he blew that much money again.
Goktar illiat Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.07 21:28:00 - [127] Originally by: Zeveron Quote: Too bad its not just BOB vs Morsus Mihi. Now that would be fight. Your past prooved the oposite. Its your choise. Thats the way you fought in the past, that gona be your way of fighting in the future yes just like EC- (moron)


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