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Nebulous Minmatar Thukker Insurgents	Posted - 2008.11.05 17:57:00 - [1] Not that it really matters of course, but with lewis hamilton being crowned the first black formula one champion and obama crowned the first black president, I was just wondering why a mixed race person (white and black parents) is being described as black?
kor anon Amarr Corporeal utopia for nasty tramps	Posted - 2008.11.05 17:58:00 - [2] no idea. But since when was black a race? i always thought it was a skin tone
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2008.11.05 17:59:00 - [3] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 05/11/2008 17:59:23 You got a better word? White? :) --- Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.11.05 18:01:00 - [4] Mocha
Falcon Troy Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.11.05 18:06:00 - [5] There's only one race: Human. The discriminations we have are against ethnicity and skin color. Obama is black. _____________ Hai.
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2008.11.05 18:06:00 - [6] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Mocha If only our creator had made everybody the same color. Maybe it was a human IQ test. Will the humans start fighting about the color of their skin? If so, classify as morons and move on. Maybe thats why Jesus hasnt returned? --- Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
kor anon Amarr Corporeal utopia for nasty tramps	Posted - 2008.11.05 18:08:00 - [7] Originally by: Falcon Troy There's only one race: Human. The discriminations we have are against ethnicity and skin color. Obama is black. Ill give you a cookie for that. and obama is mocha as deitrich aptly pointed out
Benny Hill Caldari Deceased Inc	Posted - 2008.11.05 18:11:00 - [8] Originally by: Nebulous Not that it really matters of course, but with lewis hamilton being crowned the first black formula one champion and obama crowned the first black president, I was just wondering why a mixed race person (white and black parents) is being described as black? Liberals in the US try to create victim classes whenever they can, and then they need to pad the numbers of their victim classes.
Galen Naranek Royal Navy Industries CryoGenesis Mining Syndicate	Posted - 2008.11.05 18:16:00 - [9] Originally by: Falcon Troy There's only one race: Human. The discriminations we have are against ethnicity and skin color. Obama is black. Race (noun) Etymology: Middle French, generation, from Old Italian razza Date: 1580 1: a breeding stock of animals 2 a: a family, tribe, people, or nation belonging to the same stock b: a class or kind of people unified by shared interests, habits, or characteristics 3 a: an actually or potentially interbreeding group within a species ; also : a taxonomic category (as a subspecies) representing such a group b: breed c: a category of humankind that shares certain distinctive physical traits Race is one of the ways human beings are categorized. Get over it. ___________________________________ That which kills me makes me deader
Falcon Troy Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.11.05 18:19:00 - [10] Originally by: Galen Naranek Originally by: Falcon Troy There's only one race: Human. The discriminations we have are against ethnicity and skin color. Obama is black. Race (noun) Etymology: Middle French, generation, from Old Italian razza Date: 1580 1: a breeding stock of animals 2 a: a family, tribe, people, or nation belonging to the same stock b: a class or kind of people unified by shared interests, habits, or characteristics 3 a: an actually or potentially interbreeding group within a species ; also : a taxonomic category (as a subspecies) representing such a group b: breed c: a category of humankind that shares certain distinctive physical traits Race is one of the ways human beings are categorized. Get over it. Isn't the world a great place? _____________ Hai.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.11.05 18:20:00 - [11] Originally by: Falcon Troy Obama is black. He's mulatto. _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
Falcon Troy Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.11.05 18:22:00 - [12] Edited by: Falcon Troy on 05/11/2008 18:22:49 Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Falcon Troy Obama is black. He's mulatto. Looking through the definition. I doubt people think that's a good thing to call someone. _____________ Hai.
baltec1 R.U.S.T.	Posted - 2008.11.05 18:27:00 - [13] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Falcon Troy Obama is black. He's mulatto. Tanned I'd say.
Fifi LeFume No Trademark	Posted - 2008.11.05 18:36:00 - [14] Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Falcon Troy Obama is black. He's mulatto. Tanned I'd say. I almost lost my lunch, thanks buddy
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2008.11.05 18:37:00 - [15] Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Falcon Troy Obama is black. He's mulatto. Tanned I'd say. Human BBQ... --- Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
Verx Interis Amarr Aurora Security Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2008.11.05 18:37:00 - [16] Put Obama into the 1950's. Looking the way he did, would he be able to walk into a "Whites only" restaurant? --------- Your bad loan management perfectly strikes the stock market, wrecking for -777.68 points. Eve job list
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.11.05 18:40:00 - [17] Originally by: Verx Interis Put Obama into the 1950's. Looking the way he did, would he be able to walk into a "Whites only" restaurant? Find me a time machine and we'll test it. In the mean time lets stick to the present.
kor anon Amarr Corporeal utopia for nasty tramps	Posted - 2008.11.05 18:40:00 - [18] Originally by: Verx Interis Put Obama into the 1950's. Looking the way he did, would he be able to walk into a "Whites only" restaurant? neither would the japanese but that doesnt make them black
midge Mo'yb R.U.S.T.	Posted - 2008.11.05 18:40:00 - [19] Originally by: Verx Interis Put Obama into the 1950's. Looking the way he did, would he be able to walk into a "Whites only" restaurant? he could walk wherever he wanted... wether or not he would have walked out is another matter :P -----------------------------------------------
Davina Braben	Posted - 2008.11.05 18:42:00 - [20] Once upon a time it used to be "one drop".
Ebon Desire	Posted - 2008.11.05 18:45:00 - [21] Speaking of skin colour. There is a Thai saying. When god created mankind, he used dough. He baked his first batch but left them in the oven too long and produced the black man. He tried again but didn't leave then in the oven long enough and made the white man. On his final go he got is just right and produced the Thai people. (Something along those lines) Skin colour means sod all, unless it's green, then call a doctor :)
Ryan Scouse'UK omen. IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.11.05 18:55:00 - [22] Originally by: Ebon Desire Speaking of skin colour. There is a Thai saying. When god created mankind, he used dough. He baked his first batch but left them in the oven too long and produced the black man. He tried again but didn't leave then in the oven long enough and made the white man. On his final go he got is just right and produced the Thai people. (Something along those lines) Skin colour means sod all, unless it's green, then call a doctor :) So when he made the 1st batch did he use to big a knife to make such big features as there nose etc? The second time around did he use the perfect knife , the third time around he thought a smaller knife would give him the perfect result which gave little tiny slit eyes.. Can you see were am goin with this ur logic is flawed. no EVE related content in signature. ~Weatherman
kor anon Amarr Corporeal utopia for nasty tramps	Posted - 2008.11.05 18:58:00 - [23] he didnt say he belived it he was just saying its a thai saying, which says quite a few things tbh
FOl2TY8 Scorpion's Sting	Posted - 2008.11.05 19:01:00 - [24] Originally by: Ryan Scouse'UK Originally by: Ebon Desire Speaking of skin colour. There is a Thai saying. When god created mankind, he used dough. He baked his first batch but left them in the oven too long and produced the black man. He tried again but didn't leave then in the oven long enough and made the white man. On his final go he got is just right and produced the Thai people. (Something along those lines) Skin colour means sod all, unless it's green, then call a doctor :) So when he made the 1st batch did he use to big a knife to make such big features as there nose etc? The second time around did he use the perfect knife , the third time around he thought a smaller knife would give him the perfect result which gave little tiny slit eyes.. Can you see were am goin with this ur logic is flawed. Dude he totally busted you... People aren't made of dough... ---------- The six paths and the four lives....
baltec1 R.U.S.T.	Posted - 2008.11.05 19:07:00 - [25] Originally by: FOl2TY8 Originally by: Ryan Scouse'UK Originally by: Ebon Desire Speaking of skin colour. There is a Thai saying. When god created mankind, he used dough. He baked his first batch but left them in the oven too long and produced the black man. He tried again but didn't leave then in the oven long enough and made the white man. On his final go he got is just right and produced the Thai people. (Something along those lines) Skin colour means sod all, unless it's green, then call a doctor :) So when he made the 1st batch did he use to big a knife to make such big features as there nose etc? The second time around did he use the perfect knife , the third time around he thought a smaller knife would give him the perfect result which gave little tiny slit eyes.. Can you see were am goin with this ur logic is flawed. Dude he totally busted you... People aren't made of dough... Yep, however some seem to be made out of sun dried dates (see link posted further up)
Thorliaron Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.11.05 19:14:00 - [26] well him and hamilton are not white so
Xen Gin Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion	Posted - 2008.11.05 19:20:00 - [27] Originally by: Nebulous Not that it really matters of course, but with lewis hamilton being crowned the first black formula one champion and obama crowned the first black president, I was just wondering why a mixed race person (white and black parents) is being described as black? My cousins (four of them) who are mixed race deem themselves black because they are not white. Whether that's because they chose to or because of the society they live in (South London), I don't know.
Magorath KR0M	Posted - 2008.11.05 19:24:00 - [28] Considering how 'tolerant' people are meant to be that people still make a fuss about 'the first black' whatever. Wow they are black, big freaking deal...
Khemul Zula Amarr Black Plague.	Posted - 2008.11.05 19:30:00 - [29] Edited by: Khemul Zula on 05/11/2008 19:30:57 Originally by: Davina Braben Once upon a time it used to be "one drop". This. Maybe not that exactly, but what that evolved into. It's used a lot for changing demographics to prove different arguements. Prison statistics are big one (ie: you want to prove black people make up a higher percentage of the prison population so you include anyone with any 'black', sometimes even spanish, background). In reality 'black' is not even about skin color anymore outside of the stastical use. It's more about culture and behavior. Hence why the question came up months ago on whether Obama was truely 'black'. It wasn't about his skin tone, it was about his background and the way he behaved. For some people he wasn't 'black enough'.
Nebulous Minmatar Thukker Insurgents	Posted - 2008.11.05 19:44:00 - [30] Going off topic slightly it may interest some of you that being anything other than what we describe as "black" due to our ancestors moving to less sunny continents is actually a mutation rather an evolution change, therefore all people who are classed as white (me included) are actually living, breathing human mutations, it is not a humans evolutionary path to turn white.
Fink Angel Caldari The Merry Men	Posted - 2008.11.05 20:00:00 - [31] I've always liked this little quote. Have you guys heard it before? When I was born, I was black. When I grew up, I was black. When I'm sick, I'm black. When I go out in the sun, I'm black. When I die, I'll be black. When you were born, you were pink. When you grow up, you are white. When you get sick, you are green. When you go out in the sun, you are red. When you go out in the cold, you are blue. When you die, you turn purple. Yet you have the nerve to call me coloured!
kor anon Amarr Corporeal utopia for nasty tramps	Posted - 2008.11.05 20:03:00 - [32] Originally by: Nebulous Going off topic slightly it may interest some of you that being anything other than what we describe as "black" due to our ancestors moving to less sunny continents is actually a mutation rather an evolution change, therefore all people who are classed as white (me included) are actually living, breathing human mutations, it is not a humans evolutionary path to turn white. yes i know, but i engage myself in these debates for the lulz
Cookie Snakeoil Industries Ltd.	Posted - 2008.11.05 20:18:00 - [33] Originally by: Ebon Desire (...) When god created mankind, he used dough. (...) I always knew that eating cookies is some kind of canibalism, now i have proof
Seroquel	Posted - 2008.11.05 20:45:00 - [34] There are people that think Obama is muslim... Anything is possible. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
supr3m3justic3 Caldari Hakata Group Blade.	Posted - 2008.11.05 20:50:00 - [35] As long as you dont call him african-american....cause he is clearly not.... ____
Corwain Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.11.05 21:24:00 - [36] Originally by: kor anon Originally by: Verx Interis Put Obama into the 1950's. Looking the way he did, would he be able to walk into a "Whites only" restaurant? neither would the japanese but that doesnt make them black Quoted For MFing Truth He's Arabic American, he's brown. He's no more black than an American Indian. -- Distortion\| Distortion 2 Preview
FOl2TY8 Scorpion's Sting	Posted - 2008.11.05 21:28:00 - [37] Originally by: Corwain Originally by: kor anon Originally by: Verx Interis Put Obama into the 1950's. Looking the way he did, would he be able to walk into a "Whites only" restaurant? neither would the japanese but that doesnt make them black Quoted For MFing Truth He's Arabic American, he's brown. He's no more black than an American Indian. How is he Arab American? His father is Kenyan and his mother is Caucasian American. ---------- The six paths and the four lives....
Corwain Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.11.05 21:35:00 - [38] Originally by: Seroquel There are people that think Obama is muslim... Anything is possible. Just to make sure you know what I'm talking about: A Muslim is an adherent of the religion of Islam An Arab is a member of a Semitic people originally from the Arabian peninsula and surrounding territories who speaks Arabic and who inhabits much of the Middle East and northern Africa. Obama is a confirmed half Arab (his "black" father was in fact Arab), and there is disputed evidence that he might have been a Musilm growing up. He denies that he was ever a Muslim and there's no definitive proof either way. -- Distortion\| Distortion 2 Preview
Corwain Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.11.05 21:35:00 - [39] Originally by: FOl2TY8 How is he Arab American? His father is Kenyan and his mother is Caucasian American. His father is 1/4 Kenyan, and 3/4 Arab. -- Distortion\| Distortion 2 Preview
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue	Posted - 2008.11.05 21:44:00 - [40] Originally by: Corwain Originally by: FOl2TY8 How is he Arab American? His father is Kenyan and his mother is Caucasian American. His father is 1/4 Kenyan, and 3/4 Arab. Great. So we have a mutt for a president. Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam. [Vid] I M M O R T A L
Ecnav Gallente Noir. Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2008.11.05 21:55:00 - [41] well... Vanilla and Chocolate still make Chocolate __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ A ship while docked is safe... But that isn't what ships were made for.
FOl2TY8 Scorpion's Sting	Posted - 2008.11.05 22:09:00 - [42] Originally by: Corwain Originally by: FOl2TY8 How is he Arab American? His father is Kenyan and his mother is Caucasian American. His father is 1/4 Kenyan, and 3/4 Arab. His great-grandparents on his fathers side were born in Kenya... Ugh who cares where they were from anyway. My great-great grandparents were Scots, does that make me Scotch-American? ---------- The six paths and the four lives....
supr3m3justic3 Caldari Hakata Group Blade.	Posted - 2008.11.05 22:10:00 - [43] So its simple, just figure out what all the different ethnicity's you are, and then say you are the one that will get you the most sympathy.... ____
supr3m3justic3 Caldari Hakata Group Blade.	Posted - 2008.11.05 22:11:00 - [44] Originally by: FOl2TY8 Originally by: Corwain Originally by: FOl2TY8 How is he Arab American? His father is Kenyan and his mother is Caucasian American. His father is 1/4 Kenyan, and 3/4 Arab. His great-grandparents on his fathers side were born in Kenya... Ugh who cares where they were from anyway. My great-great grandparents were Scots, does that make me Scotch-American? This is what i've been saying....but it doesnt matter cause were white.... ____
DubanFP Caldari Evil ALT Corp	Posted - 2008.11.05 22:22:00 - [45] Edited by: DubanFP on 05/11/2008 22:27:21 Originally by: Magorath Considering how 'tolerant' people are meant to be that people still make a fuss about 'the first black' whatever. Wow they are black, big freaking deal... It's not that he's "black" but rather the Symbolism of it. 43 obviously Caucasian presidents in a row in over 200 years of history is broken. Obama was elected because he was the better man, regardless of skin color. Is that not a symbol worth appreciating? The importaint part is knowing in the end that it doesn't really change anything, besides the symbolism of it. _______________ "White, Black, Minmitar, Achura, Male or Female it doesn't matter to me. I'm an equal opportunity killer"
FOl2TY8 Scorpion's Sting	Posted - 2008.11.05 22:26:00 - [46] Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 05/11/2008 22:23:57 Originally by: Magorath Considering how 'tolerant' people are meant to be that people still make a fuss about 'the first black' whatever. Wow they are black, big freaking deal... It's not that he's "black" but rather the Symbolism of it. 43 obviously Caucasian presidents in a row in over 200 years of history is broken. Obama was elected because he was the better man, regardless of skin color. Is that not a symbol worth appreciating? Absolutely, the pundits are reeeally reaching though. ---------- The six paths and the four lives....
Sazkyen	Posted - 2008.11.05 22:56:00 - [47] Edited by: Sazkyen on 05/11/2008 22:57:16 The "dark side" took over the US it seems. I always wondered how Master Windu wasn't a Dark Jedi.
FOl2TY8 Scorpion's Sting	Posted - 2008.11.05 23:03:00 - [48] Originally by: Sazkyen Edited by: Sazkyen on 05/11/2008 22:57:16 The "dark side" took over the US it seems. I always wondered how Master Windu wasn't a Dark Jedi. Yeah but he had a bigger light saber... god I feel nerdy now... ---------- The six paths and the four lives....
nahtoh Caldari StrikerCorp Dark Trinity Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.05 23:09:00 - [49] Originally by: Nebulous Going off topic slightly it may interest some of you that being anything other than what we describe as "black" due to our ancestors moving to less sunny continents is actually a mutation rather an evolution change, therefore all people who are classed as white (me included) are actually living, breathing human mutations, it is not a humans evolutionary path to turn white. Ok so your contention is that a enviromental caused change/adaption is not evolutonary change? Theres was me thinging that evliatnary change was a sucessful mutation that allowed you to prosper... ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Samuel Miner Caldari Ramdon Industries corporation	Posted - 2008.11.05 23:18:00 - [50] Originally by: nahtoh Originally by: Nebulous Going off topic slightly it may interest some of you that being anything other than what we describe as "black" due to our ancestors moving to less sunny continents is actually a mutation rather an evolution change, therefore all people who are classed as white (me included) are actually living, breathing human mutations, it is not a humans evolutionary path to turn white. Ok so your contention is that a enviromental caused change/adaption is not evolutonary change? Theres was me thinging that evliatnary change was a sucessful mutation that allowed you to prosper... Yeah you are right.... under certain conditions for example you are better off being black in sunny country than being white because of skin damage/cancer and what not. In not so sunny country's being white is an advantage as you can absorb more sun/vit D. So being white doesn't mean your more evolutionary advanced it just means your different.
BloodyWomble	Posted - 2008.11.05 23:19:00 - [51] Enough about cocoa the clown he is old after 1 day even
nahtoh Caldari StrikerCorp Dark Trinity Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.05 23:48:00 - [52] Edited by: nahtoh on 05/11/2008 23:50:51 Originally by: Samuel Miner Originally by: nahtoh Originally by: Nebulous Going off topic slightly it may interest some of you that being anything other than what we describe as "black" due to our ancestors moving to less sunny continents is actually a mutation rather an evolution change, therefore all people who are classed as white (me included) are actually living, breathing human mutations, it is not a humans evolutionary path to turn white. Ok so your contention is that a enviromental caused change/adaption is not evolutonary change? Theres was me thinging that evliatnary change was a sucessful mutation that allowed you to prosper... Yeah you are right.... under certain conditions for example you are better off being black in sunny country than being white because of skin damage/cancer and what not. In not so sunny country's being white is an advantage as you can absorb more sun/vit D. So being white doesn't mean your more evolutionary advanced it just means your different. Evolution is adpating to your evoroment... got posters mixed up... ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Samuel Miner Caldari Ramdon Industries corporation	Posted - 2008.11.06 00:00:00 - [53] Edited by: Samuel Miner on 06/11/2008 00:02:23 EDIT - Edit as seen your edit lol I was a bit confused.
Baldour Ngarr Aliastra	Posted - 2008.11.06 00:03:00 - [54] Originally by: Magorath Considering how 'tolerant' people are meant to be that people still make a fuss about 'the first black' whatever. Wow they are black, big freaking deal... That people make such a fuss is a clear sign that there's still a long way to go - in an ideal society, it would never occur to anybody to even mention what colour of hair, skin, eyes or anything else, a Presidential candidate happens to have. However, since in the last 232 years no non-Caucasian has ever even got within smelling distance of the Presidency, it's still a big step forward from where they once were. ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."
Samuel Miner Caldari Ramdon Industries corporation	Posted - 2008.11.06 00:17:00 - [55] Originally by: Baldour Ngarr Originally by: Magorath Considering how 'tolerant' people are meant to be that people still make a fuss about 'the first black' whatever. Wow they are black, big freaking deal... That people make such a fuss is a clear sign that there's still a long way to go - in an ideal society, it would never occur to anybody to even mention what colour of hair, skin, eyes or anything else, a Presidential candidate happens to have. However, since in the last 232 years no non-Caucasian has ever even got within smelling distance of the Presidency, it's still a big step forward from where they once were. The strange thing is that people are more divided by class than race and the people running the show know this. An example, when two countrys go to war one side doesn't send the lower class' and the otherside sends everyone. Historically what happens is the poor on both sides are used as cannon fodder then after the war has ended the upper classes will start trading with eachother again. Who knows maybe one day when someone says something racist the only answer someone will be able to think of is "thats so so so.... 20th century!".
vostok Minmatar	Posted - 2008.11.06 00:50:00 - [56] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Verx Interis Put Obama into the 1950's. Looking the way he did, would he be able to walk into a "Whites only" restaurant? Find me a time machine and we'll test it. In the mean time lets stick to the present. The test for it as I remember was putting a pencil in their hair and seeing if it fell out. If it didn't you were classed legally black. This information was brought to you by blue peter - Adaptation is not* an excuse for lack of ballance!* -
Kleaner Kelly ALLIED TACTICAL TECHNOLOGIES Collective Asylum	Posted - 2008.11.06 01:01:00 - [57] dred scott was black, according to the Supreme court. When you look at an originally white nation, where people way whiter than obama were sold as slaves and considered blacks, obama counts. _______________________ Sup. I'm an Alt.
Technomagez Gallente	Posted - 2008.11.06 03:54:00 - [58] Originally by: FOl2TY8 Originally by: Ryan Scouse'UK Originally by: Ebon Desire Speaking of skin colour. There is a Thai saying. When god created mankind, he used dough. He baked his first batch but left them in the oven too long and produced the black man. He tried again but didn't leave then in the oven long enough and made the white man. On his final go he got is just right and produced the Thai people. (Something along those lines) Skin colour means sod all, unless it's green, then call a doctor :) So when he made the 1st batch did he use to big a knife to make such big features as there nose etc? The second time around did he use the perfect knife , the third time around he thought a smaller knife would give him the perfect result which gave little tiny slit eyes.. Can you see were am goin with this ur logic is flawed. Dude he totally busted you... People aren't made of dough... lol... i had to laugh so hard at that one...
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2008.11.06 09:10:00 - [59] Black Brown Tan Beige Cream White There ya go. All the colour variants you'll ever need. Now just choose a color for yourself and let's get on with living. -- There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken.
dr doooo	Posted - 2008.11.06 09:23:00 - [60] Originally by: Jim McGregor If only our creator had made everybody the same color. Maybe it was a human IQ test. She did. She just hasn't finished mixing in the ingredients yet.

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