Mogren
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.11.06 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Qordel
Originally by: Anslo I can still afford to pay for isk, as I said I am not begging. But I have been obtaining recent messages and conversation about this problem. I know the beginning group that has already had to leave EVE due to these prices. They simply cannot afford real money And who the hell are you to defend them? One of them perhaps?
AND THERE YOU HAVE YOUR ANSWER.
The value of a dollar has declined significantly with the current economic recession and global financial situations (such as, in the US, giving $850b to bail out lenders, $300b for Lehmen before that, $25b for automakers before that and another $300b for tax rebates, $300b for individual mortgage assistance and $25 for ANOTHER automotive bailout all coming). A couple trillion dollars pulled out of thin air will tend to make things more difficult in an already stifling economy.
People selling you their GTCs are not all wealthy. They are paying $35 hard-earned dollars for every card in a time when money is tight and people are fearing for their general financial well-being and even their jobs.
You point out that people have to quit eve because they can't afford subscriptions. Well, then the alternative to that is that you work hard to afford GTCs. Do you think that GTC sellers live in some fancy alternate universe where THEIR money is somehow worth far less at $35/pop than YOUR money is at $15 or $30 a pop that you say they're having a problem with (and as a result can't afford subscriptions).
This complaint is like going to a bakery and being outraged that the baker has raised his prices, even though his own costs have risen. And then you justify it by telling him "but money is tight! we can't afford it! You're gouging us!". Without any thought or concern for the fact that the baker himself has higher costs and can barely afford HIS expenses.
Not to mention, just because SOME people ask a higher value doesn't mean that's the going rate. SOME people may be buying at 600m but the AVERAGE is closer to 530m (and yes, I am basing this on stats compiled into a spreadsheet over the last 7 days across the GTC forum).
So the simple answer is - stop whining about price gouging when EVERYONE is in the line of the same economic fire. I'm not going to discount you GTCs because I feel like giving you a freebie. I'm not your dad. I'm a hard working person who values his money and wants to get as much as he can for it. If I could get a billion per GTC, I'd want that too. But I can't. Because people won't pay for it. So I sell them at the price people WILL pay for. It's this funny little thing called supply and demand. Called market price. Called capitalism.
If you don't like it, then scrounge up the $10.95 or $14.95/mo and PAY for your account. And if you can't afford that, then work harder to earn more isk so you can play the game for no real cash. Or don't play the game at all if that's too much of a time sink to accomplish. But don't come in here acting like you are entitled to prices that meet your particular situation while other people are gladly picking up all the available GTCs out there and paying the going rate. If you can't afford something - don't buy it. If enough people can't afford it, the price will either drop or the product will simply go away (people will decide that it isn't worth selling for the price you want to pay and simply stop participating in the trade).
And, most of all, STOP WITH THE GOD DAMNED DAILY THREADS WHINING ABOUT THIS SAME DAMN THING, PEOPLE.
At the very least, wait until the the GTC trade is merged into the in-game market. Until then, the discussion is moot because the out of game market has a limited life span remaining.
Well said. ++internets for you.
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