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Ottman
Amarr LoneWolf Mining Veni Vidi Vici
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Posted - 2008.11.06 17:25:00 -
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have you seen what ccp wants to do with transport ships ? the blocade runner got taken away the +2 warp strength bonus and ccp give them the useless covertops cloaking decive, any ganker with even a few experience can decloak them, so pretty useless... and the other transport ships got the +2 warp strength, but what do we know about them ? yeah they are agile like a big roid, every hictor pilot will be grinning after november 11 th, thanks ccp to make transport ship pilots easy victims for gankers, have they whined long enough that you put an apple into the mouth of transport ship pilots before you serve them on a tablet toward the gankers ? do you really think ccp you can blend us with the orca that we dont see the second biggest nerf coming toward the industrial pilots since the carrier nerf ? sorry ccp, i must show up that nerf, i cant resist...
MfG ottman
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.11.06 17:27:00 -
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You must be one of those guys that thought the torp buff was a torp nerf a few months back. Congrats, you've done it again. ----------------------------------------- [Video] The Cruise |

Roman legionnaire's
AssHat Hq
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Posted - 2008.11.06 17:30:00 -
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LOL i love newbs that post threads like this
As an industrial myself i LOVE this change
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Faife
Noctiscion
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Posted - 2008.11.06 17:30:00 -
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VVV, do you guys really want him representing you like this? --

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Sopha Serpentia
Core Dynamics
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Posted - 2008.11.06 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ottman have you seen what ccp wants to do with transport ships ? the blocade runner got taken away the +2 warp strength bonus and ccp give them the useless covertops cloaking decive, any ganker with even a few experience can decloak them, so pretty useless... and the other transport ships got the +2 warp strength, but what do we know about them ? yeah they are agile like a big roid, every hictor pilot will be grinning after november 11 th, thanks ccp to make transport ship pilots easy victims for gankers, have they whined long enough that you put an apple into the mouth of transport ship pilots before you serve them on a tablet toward the gankers ? do you really think ccp you can blend us with the orca that we dont see the second biggest nerf coming toward the industrial pilots since the carrier nerf ? sorry ccp, i must show up that nerf, i cant resist...
MfG ottman
I too am dissapointed in Quantum Patch.
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Hooch Flux
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.06 17:32:00 -
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Orca, does it blend?
I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit...
Only way to be sure! |

Lorzion
Minmatar IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.11.06 17:32:00 -
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Maybe they could unnerf Blackops and let them jump through cov jump portals solving the fuel problem.
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Vitrael
Reaper Industries Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2008.11.06 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ottman useless covertops cloaking decive

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Blastil
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Posted - 2008.11.06 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Lorzion Maybe they could unnerf Blackops and let them jump through cov jump portals solving the fuel problem.
If only. It would certainly be an almost game-breakingly good mechanic by which players could introduce resources deep into 0.0 space and maybe even deliver needed cap boosters to blobs in deep space.
Alas, 'tis over. Time to return to WoW I guess.
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Evlyna
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Posted - 2008.11.06 17:36:00 -
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...
I loled!
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Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2008.11.06 17:36:00 -
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Big transport isn't about gatecamps, it's about discouraging suicide attacks.
Small trnsport got a HUGE buff (but lost some cargo room afaik); the covert cloak is way better than +2 WCS, if you can not see that then you've never actually understood what a covert is capable of.
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Dark 'Shadow
Shadow Fire Industries
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Posted - 2008.11.06 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ottman have you seen what ccp wants to do with transport ships ? the blocade runner got taken away the +2 warp strength bonus and ccp give them the useless covertops cloaking decive, any ganker with even a few experience can decloak them, so pretty useless... and the other transport ships got the +2 warp strength, but what do we know about them ? yeah they are agile like a big roid, every hictor pilot will be grinning after november 11 th, thanks ccp to make transport ship pilots easy victims for gankers, have they whined long enough that you put an apple into the mouth of transport ship pilots before you serve them on a tablet toward the gankers ? do you really think ccp you can blend us with the orca that we dont see the second biggest nerf coming toward the industrial pilots since the carrier nerf ? sorry ccp, i must show up that nerf, i cant resist...
MfG ottman
Don't you dare **** up my crane buff!
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Dal Thrax
Multiverse Corporation Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2008.11.06 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Blastil
Originally by: Lorzion Maybe they could unnerf Blackops and let them jump through cov jump portals solving the fuel problem.
If only. It would certainly be an almost game-breakingly good mechanic by which players could introduce resources deep into 0.0 space and maybe even deliver needed cap boosters to blobs in deep space.
Alas, 'tis over. Time to return to WoW I guess.
I thought the devblog said that blockade runners would be able to use cov jump portals. Has something changed?
Dal
Originally by: HEXXX In all seriousness; I think I made a miscalculation originally. . . We either need to fix this or fix our advertising.
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Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2008.11.06 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Dal Thrax
Originally by: Blastil
Originally by: Lorzion Maybe they could unnerf Blackops and let them jump through cov jump portals solving the fuel problem.
If only. It would certainly be an almost game-breakingly good mechanic by which players could introduce resources deep into 0.0 space and maybe even deliver needed cap boosters to blobs in deep space.
Alas, 'tis over. Time to return to WoW I guess.
I thought the devblog said that blockade runners would be able to use cov jump portals. Has something changed?
Dal
They lack highslots.
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Julius Rigel
House Rigel
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Posted - 2008.11.06 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ottman ccp give them the useless covertops cloaking decive
10/10
Best troll ever! I wanted to smack myself in amazement! 
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Tellenta
Gallente Invicta. Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.11.06 17:45:00 -
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I for one will gladly give up a +2 warp strength for the ability to jump into system cloak and warp (while cloaked). I don't think you thought this "nerf" whine through. The speed that a blockade runner gets to warp is shuttle like, add the ability to warp cloaked the blockade runner now lives up to it's name.
In summary OP you're stupid.
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Rhadamantine
Game Community
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Posted - 2008.11.06 17:50:00 -
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Probably the only boost in the patch tbfh, news at 11.
Regards. Rhadamantine. |

Angel Lightbringer
Dark Evolution Industries
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Posted - 2008.11.06 17:51:00 -
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Edited by: Angel Lightbringer on 06/11/2008 17:55:41
Originally by: Ottman --snip-- and ccp give them the useless covertops cloaking decive, --snip--
MfG OMG ottman
1) Open mouth 2) Insert foot
Stuff? Contract? you won't survive QR anyway, no lie..
[Edit] Thought of posting with an alt? removing Alliance tag?  -Angel |

Dianeces
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.11.06 18:05:00 -
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Posting in an Ottman thread.
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Ottman
Amarr LoneWolf Mining Veni Vidi Vici
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Posted - 2008.11.06 18:24:00 -
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useless flaming fwd, i have expected nothing else... LOL but facts cant be flamed away, so i call it useless flaming  have fun with going on flaming, but dont expect that i answer on it 
MfG ottman
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Black Plague.
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Posted - 2008.11.06 18:27:00 -
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I know logic wasn't part of the thought process here but... If the covert ops cloak is useless, and the +2 stab bonus is useless, then how is this a nerf at all? It's still got an apparently useless bonus. 
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Minsc
Gallente A.W.M Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.11.06 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ottman useless flaming fwd, i have expected nothing else... LOL but facts cant be flamed away, so i call it useless flaming  have fun with going on flaming, but dont expect that i answer on it 
MfG ottman
The only fact you've presented so far is that you are utterly clueless. 
Originally by: Sharkbait please for the love of god read the dam stickies
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Saju Somtaaw
Gallente Department of Defence
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Posted - 2008.11.06 18:34:00 -
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Lets do some math shall we? Gates drop you with in 12km of the center so the area is 4/3(3.141592654*12000(Meters)^3) or 7,238,229,474,816m^3 to search in.
Covert Ops cloaks let you warp w/o decloaking so if your on the ball you will not get caught by the gate camp. Sure they're know your their due to jump effect but they don't know where in that large area you are. ---- --- --- My views don't represent those of my corporation or alliance. |

Meiyang Lee
Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2008.11.06 18:41:00 -
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Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 06/11/2008 18:44:25
Originally by: Tzar'rim Big transport isn't about gatecamps, it's about discouraging suicide attacks.
Small trnsport got a HUGE buff (but lost some cargo room afaik); the covert cloak is way better than +2 WCS, if you can not see that then you've never actually understood what a covert is capable of.
The Blockade runner only lost it's second active tank bonus (cycle time bonus) and the +2 WC as far as I could tell on my Prorator. The ships' Inertia Modifiers were identical (to 16 decimal places anyway) as was its mass and cargohold.
The cloak bonus is good enough to not require more than Transports 1 unless you intend to tank it. (Cov-Ops cloak needs 135 CPU at level 1 , 75 at level 5)
The Deep Space Transport now has the +2 WC bonus, aswell as a 5% power grid reduction per level for either Shield Extenders or Plates depending on the racial ship it's based on.
Originally by: Saju Somtaaw Lets do some math shall we? Gates drop you with in 12km of the center so the area is 4/3(3.141592654*12000(Meters)^3) or 7,238,229,474,816m^3 to search in.
Covert Ops cloaks let you warp w/o decloaking so if your on the ball you will not get caught by the gate camp. Sure they're know your their due to jump effect but they don't know where in that large area you are.
Actually a little more than that, since I think you're dropped with 12k of the Gate itself (it's physical radius) and the new Region and Border stargates are HUGE.
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Letouk Mernel
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Posted - 2008.11.06 18:42:00 -
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The covert ops cloaking device lets you move while cloaked at good speed, and lets you WARP while cloaked, in case you didn't know. That means, the **** you're hauling in that transport is only vulnerable for, like, a microsecond after you've jumped.
Let's say it again: you can align and warp out while cloaked.
That's a pretty awesome feature.
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Rhaven
Praetorian BlackGuard Frater Adhuc Excessum
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Posted - 2008.11.06 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Dal Thrax
Originally by: Blastil
Originally by: Lorzion Maybe they could unnerf Blackops and let them jump through cov jump portals solving the fuel problem.
If only. It would certainly be an almost game-breakingly good mechanic by which players could introduce resources deep into 0.0 space and maybe even deliver needed cap boosters to blobs in deep space.
Alas, 'tis over. Time to return to WoW I guess.
I thought the devblog said that blockade runners would be able to use cov jump portals. Has something changed?
Dal
They will be able to use the jortal generated by a blackops BS is what was said in the Dev Blog.
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Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.11.06 18:44:00 -
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If this is a nerf to Transports, I look forward to nerfs of similar magnitude on every ship I fly...
-- Becq Starforged Ushra'Khan
The Flame of Freedom Burns On! |

Lord DeFault
Minmatar 20th Legion Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.06 18:47:00 -
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rofl
The only wsy this can be called a nerf is the "battle prowler" loony's lose theres warp strengh bonus. They can't safely run away :(
Does have a turret and a gun slot after all :}= Why would you want too hide ^^
For the Republic
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Yuleth Gix
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Posted - 2008.11.06 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: Saju Somtaaw Lets do some math shall we? Gates drop you with in 12km of the center so the area is 4/3(3.141592654*12000(Meters)^3) or 7,238,229,474,816m^3 to search in.
Covert Ops cloaks let you warp w/o decloaking so if your on the ball you will not get caught by the gate camp. Sure they're know your their due to jump effect but they don't know where in that large area you are.
You are wrong sir. They will see you for a short period of time.
however in the sence that it's a useful buff then yes you are right.
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Janu Hull
Caldari Terra Incognita Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.11.06 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Becq Starforged If this is a nerf to Transports, I look forward to nerfs of similar magnitude on every ship I fly...
Quotin' this.
Can you do another round of nerfs to my carrier, CCP? In the event of an emergency, my ego may be used as a floatation device.
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